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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 15:16:17


Post by: mxwllmdr


OK, so I don't think that I will change the way I am attaching the upper wings...........

I think that I just need to finish the detail and let them sit as is...

For comparison I found this....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fQ23hvEdNXg/TFitIJyOvqI/AAAAAAAAAec/IC8fmIwp0-g/s1600/IMG_0343%5B1%5D.JPG

Once my detail is finished on them I think they will be fiine....

They are a fair bit larger than their Forgeworld counterparts, though.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 16:56:56


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, yours can deploy a FW size Thawk!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 18:26:20


Post by: mxwllmdr


It can do no such thing, Dave...


Shees, exaggerating fool......


A stormraven, maybe......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 21:02:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah... who is the bigger fool the fool or the exaggerating fool...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 21:20:54


Post by: mxwllmdr


All levels of fool are equal......

I strive to be an average fool.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 21:23:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah... that comment makes so much sense... in a nother universe tho...but in that universe there is no such thing as war... yelling wifes and raising prices for fuel... and you don´t get fat from twinkies...man... where was that portal to that other realm again?...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 21:46:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


HEY MAN!!!!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 21:49:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm




i was just putting the two quotes together and they both are rather contrary to each other...

am i in trouble? for giving lip? *looks sheepish...*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 22:08:05


Post by: mxwllmdr


What? Oh, no, Vik.....

QFT: "HEY MAN!!!!!!" is a quote fron Battlefield Earth by L Ron Hubbard. It's what the neo primitives said when they meant "Amen".

HAHAHAHAHA LOLO ROFL THATS FUNNY THOUGH!!!!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 22:10:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*pheww....* now i am at ease^^

only ever saw battlefield earth once... and i think i must have fallen asleep during that movie at least once...when it is on tv it is always late and mostly it is on the b-movie stations too^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 22:19:57


Post by: mxwllmdr


You should read the book. It doesn't suck.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/13 23:46:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... you think that would be a good read? here there is a massive row about hubbard and all his stuff...you know what i am referring to...(not wanting to start a flamewar here...)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 00:54:15


Post by: mxwllmdr


Personal beliefs aside he was a fantastic author.....


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Even the mission earth series was good-ish enough to read from start to finish....

some 13 or so books....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:00:40


Post by: lone dirty dog


I see nothing wrong with scientology ….. after all if you have to much money and want to waste it


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:10:10


Post by: dsteingass


War...War never changes.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:21:20


Post by: lone dirty dog


Except when you loose


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:34:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


er....that is actually the opening of any FO game^^

you should really get that game...you´ll love it!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:35:43


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:er....that is actually the opening of any FO game^^

you should really get that game...you´ll love it!


I have Fall out (my mates XBOX died ) he gave me the game but after he explained the amount of time invested I just thought no way …...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:37:31


Post by: dsteingass


Bye...See you in about 2 weeks while you play!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:39:19


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Bye...See you in about 2 weeks while you play!


Hell I would be divorced before then ….. And we aint even married


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:40:32


Post by: dsteingass


Just don't tell her there are whores in the game, you'll be good


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:41:46


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Just don't tell her there are whores in the game, you'll be good


Yes cant see that helping matters


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:45:02


Post by: mxwllmdr


I almost didn't survive it, either.....

I have almost 600 hours in it.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 01:47:33


Post by: lone dirty dog


mxwllmdr wrote:I almost didn't survive it, either.....

I have almost 600 hours in it.....


I have not got that much commitment, that is why you are in the military


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 02:22:59


Post by: jabbakahut


dsteingass wrote:Yeah, yours can deploy a FW size Thawk!

Ha-ha yeah, like a Stormbird, or the old school Epic! Thunderhawk


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 03:48:31


Post by: mxwllmdr


What an awesome Scratch!! That is so cool.....


Who built it?



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 13:36:01


Post by: Brother Paen


Wow , the Thunderbrick. I remember that . Maybe a Doombird, will make its way into Chaos ' codex soon. The Hell Talon & Hell blade dont impress me much.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:03:16


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey thanks for helping out yesterday, Brother Paen. I know we didn't get much done, but as you can probably guess it went faster with help.....

I did get both the upper wings permenantly attached, though this morning. I have decided that I liked the way they were hinged and will keep it.



Also, did some more upper wing detail and rivet planning:





And, for anyone out there who cares to know, Brother Paen has been so kind as to provide some GW Bits for this bad boy. In order to save a little time, and authenticity, I will be applying a REAL Turbo Laser Destructor, REAL Twin Linked Heavy Bolters on all four Sponsons, REAL Turbo Lasers on the upper wing tips and some very well done missiles under the Wings. The amount of bits this guy has laying around going to waste is disturbing on so many levels......

I may have to apprentice this man.....

I had always planned to have real heavy bolters but Brother Pawn had the sponsons I needed. I guess I will be building for him for a while. He already layed out several cunning plans for me to muddle my way through. Notably, and hopefully to begin soon, a Thunderhawk Heavy Transport.....


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Almost forgot the pile of toe parts we cut yesterday, Brother Paen.....



A little quick math showed me that in order to do the Mass build we would need 352 toe parts not counting the detail pieces or the hinge tubing.

Add in the roller for the back toes and the trim pieces for all of them and the total reaches nearly a thousand. Add in the hinge tubing and connectors to the toe pad and it hits a,most two thousand.....

Man we haven't even hit the ankles here yet......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:13:33


Post by: dsteingass


Lovely Riveting man!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:14:20


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah but it is just black dots right now....


I hope to start them in actuality Saturday.......


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These are going to have to be very small to look good because it is an aircraft. I can imagine that rivets are very aerodynamic....


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Oh, who am I kidding: ITS A THUNDERHAWK!!! THUNDERHAWKS AREN'T AERODYNAMIC!!!!!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:19:55


Post by: dsteingass


..they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:37:39


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHA, well played sir, well played.....


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dsteingass wrote:..they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern


Sigged for Posterity......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:45:55


Post by: jabbakahut


mxwllmdr wrote:What an awesome Scratch!! That is so cool.....
Who built it?

Heliodore
All his scratch is worth checking out.

Do you have Campbell's soup in your hobby room?
Hawk is looking good.

Aerodynamics? Where we're going, we don't need aerodynamics! (just don't tell Blackadder)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 15:58:07


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yes, Campbell's in Chicken Noodle and Tomato variety? Why???







LOL




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:00:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


glad you could fix the e-hawk already... what will your future precautions be to avoid such terror form the cat-astrophies?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:00:57


Post by: dsteingass


Automated sentry turrets?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:14:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ummmmmm, canvas bag and a brick?






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Just kidding.....


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Or am I?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:18:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... i have felt my fair share of cat- nastynesses... my own cat... i got rid of her long agao... used to pee on my cushion... as i am unable to smell...(note...i might smell or rather reek myself^^) so i didn´t even knew that...until my sister pointed that fact out to me...after that war was declared...and we know...war...war never changes...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:28:52


Post by: mxwllmdr


Not even against cats.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:29:09


Post by: shrike


Vik, you declared war on your cat, who you've now "gotten rid of"?... what did you do, vik... I'm pretty sure the RSPCA would have something to say to you...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:38:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHAHAHA, read him his rights.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:39:04


Post by: DaemonJellybaby


You make this titan building lark look too easy!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:47:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


they would say... thanks for doing it the good way and giving the cat to the doc so that he could find a new home to a rather young cat... i am pretty sure she found a good new home...

and yeah... cats are old fiends... war or rather that akward blackmail relationship with them is going on for some thousand years now...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:48:47


Post by: dsteingass


Reincarnated women? lol


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:51:33


Post by: mxwllmdr


DaemonJellybaby wrote:You make this titan building lark look too easy!



Thanks, Daemon (in a low slow voice - Matt Daemon).....


Stick around and see whats next......


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I mean it will be a few months before the next project but, if you have the patience, stick around......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:53:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh...watch your step... you never know who might be reading that....^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 20:58:29


Post by: mxwllmdr


Matt Daemon.....




LOL


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Cool screenname though dude.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:01:45


Post by: dsteingass


Ya, you might step in a pile of matt daemon!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:21:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Matt Daemon.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:22:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ok...apart from the differnt spelling...i don´t get it...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:23:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:23:48


Post by: dsteingass


It's the Old English way of spelling Demon, it's still pronounced DEE-mon. I know it is weird to me too.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:44:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that much i have understood... but why drag that guy into the here and now?...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 21:54:57


Post by: Capitansolstice


I think that today was the first day I have EVER heard of someone with a spare turbo-laser destructor!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 22:03:47


Post by: monkeyh


How on earth would you end up with spares of those?!! (I mean it's not like they're optional extra bits in any kits)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/14 23:24:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


He bought SEVERAL shadow sword sprues to just have around. Like I said the amount of spare sprues he has laying around is disgusting......


Brother Paen, what exactly are your thoughts on extra sprues?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 00:14:07


Post by: dsteingass


I have boxes of exra sprues, they are my greatest treasure!


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btw max...I am honored with the sig!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 01:58:55


Post by: Horst


I hate it. Start over.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 02:01:56


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Yep sorry its gotta go.

You should have let the cat keep it.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 02:05:21


Post by: Galorn


I step away for a day and...



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 04:04:47


Post by: Rogue Wolves


lovely prerivet dots, this thing already looks amazing, cant waite to see it with those rivets!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 07:46:28


Post by: mxwllmdr


Horst? Really?


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Yes Galorn number three on my favorite movies of all time list.

The Boondock Saints


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 08:30:22


Post by: Viktor von Domm


tho i have to say...about the pre-rivets... there are some sections i would actually see more rivtes...no pun here... if you are interested i could point them out to you...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 08:48:58


Post by: Rawson


Viktor von Domm wrote:there are some sections i would actually see more rivets...

That's a bit out of character, don't you think?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 10:02:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hurhurhur...


but seriously...




something like a tighter woven rivet pattern like this...but i understand if that would look to busy for you and would draw too much attention away from the other details...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 11:38:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


No I think you are right. But I have to check them because I think you put some on that may have just rubbed off from my original pattern.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 11:41:33


Post by: lone dirty dog


I concur, this does look better and more in line with 40k standard riveting practices


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 11:45:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:No I think you are right. But I have to check them because I think you put some on that may have just rubbed off from my original pattern.


rubbed them off? yep, i was rather puzled why the inbetween spaces were so wide anyway on some points...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 11:50:00


Post by: mxwllmdr


I think thats what happened to some, not all (not even majority), of your red dots.....

I didn't use a permenant marker on them for fear of interfering with the glue.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 11:58:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh yeah... i think there might be problems with permanent ink... good decision...and we are here with an ever watchful eye^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 12:32:05


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


It may be more in line with standard riveting, but dont forget this is an aircraft. On the FW thunderhawk, and also all the other flyers (including the valkyrie and storm raven), the rivets are very understated. In fact most of the "rivets" are actually negative rivets, ie theyre drilled holes.

As an example:

Spoiler:



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:03:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


That is an interresting point. Like they aer countersunk.....
I must contemplate this.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:08:07


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Heres one to show some of the riveting on the fw thawk, tho i guess youve seen it before...

Spoiler:


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:24:55


Post by: dsteingass


Recessed rivets are even easier to make though I guess.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:33:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


but you have to do them before you build the thing...after build i think that could ruin everything if you punch them in...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:35:17


Post by: dsteingass


naw, just drill them with a pin vice, no need to punch.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 13:51:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm... interesting idea...what i have ment was... for the deck of my airship back then i used a broken holepunch to actually punch the rivets in the cardbard... so by this i had a ringand a rivet in one go...


Spoiler:








sorry for that minor derailing,....^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 14:26:28


Post by: Galorn


One technique I heard of for making recessed rivets in styrene was to use a hypodermic needle that was snapped off and use that in a pin drill to carve in the circle.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 14:30:57


Post by: Gitsplitta


Really phenomenal work mx... no idea how you manage to create something that beautiful out of thin air and plasticard! My hat's off to you!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 15:51:16


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, thanks Git.

I am thinking I like the regular rivets for this. But I think that understatement is necessary for them as well. I think that it calls for rivets of miniscule proportions. Like in the .64 or .75mm range...... That will be tough to cut all them boogers....

I am using this as reference for rivets on this bad boy.



I am currently having a problem deciding about the shadowsword barrel and it's length. I like the shadowsword versus the actual Turbo laser destructor because it has a lower profile which will make for a better visual aesthetic but it is longer so it will come out over the canopy too far. I will have to take out a half inch or more to make it proportionate....

I may just scratch one out in a shorter length using the real one as a guide....


Something else that is bothering me is the placement of the pilot/co-pilot seats in the front cabin. I am finding out the the thickness of the floor between decks in the real model allows for the seats to be closer to the canopy while maintaining proper ceiling height on both decks....and mine aren't that close....

I am thinking that I may need to put a platform in there under them to raise them up.....

And lastly, I am worried about the rear landing gear looking awkward as a result of the distance the have to reach from the belly to the ground. I am gonna have to play around with their design to see what will look best and not spindly or gangly.......


I still think this will be done this weekend....








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Ok, so i know I have said that before. Sue me....

'cept you Horst, you can't sue me.....




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Also, You hate it? Really? Please, tell me that was a joke......





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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 16:07:28


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


I was joking, obviously, and i would strongly imagine Horst was too

Shortening the laser would work fine imo. Dont really see the need to scratch it, specially cos you like the look of the plastic one.

A platform under the pilots would look fine.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 16:09:31


Post by: Gitsplitta


Hmmmm... the shock wave from the barrel of a gun the size of the Shadowsword's would probably annihilate the canopy. Just sayin'...



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 17:06:54


Post by: dsteingass


A bolter would probably rip the arm off of a regular human when fired too....just sayin'


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..but it still looks cool


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 17:13:50


Post by: Gitsplitta


You've got a point!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 17:41:48


Post by: mxwllmdr


I guess me firing a bolter would be like me firing a Browning M2 from the hip...


Ha! what a sight that would be......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 18:08:11


Post by: Horst


I was joking of course :0

It looks great.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 18:22:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Don't give an old man a heart attack.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 18:32:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think the raised platfrom will be looking great... good idea... makes the room inside a bit more sectioned...

shortening the barrel should be sufficient...

at galorn..your description with that needle and the drill is very interesting...

again at max... i think you have to show us the landing gears again for us to actually be able to say something about them... and i have no idea when you showed them us already ...so looking back would take longer than actually reposting an old pic^^


and if someone actually would really mean to say he hated your work...i think i would have to buy a ticket for the next plane and head to that &()% to give him a righteous kicking...everone else is just teasing you... you are doing so wonderful things here... have faith!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 18:47:24


Post by: mxwllmdr


I haven't showed them to you, Vik. I haven't built them yet. But I can see them in my head and I am worried.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 18:53:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


no that´s not fair... you can worry after you have built them... not before...

i think you bring yourself into an impasse situation... maybe you shouldn´t push yourself and the project so hard? i mean...stop making yourself schedules and such things... let the hobby flow... do what makes you enjoy...don´t think you HAVE to do anything... i think you are beginning to loose the fun in the game (figurativly speaking)...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:19:01


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey, I am allowed to pontificate......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:34:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:Hey, I am allowed to pontificate......

simply answer...nope...

long one...still nope...

if you continue to talk like an old wife... i use a cushion on you...stuffed with clothpegs! be warned!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:44:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Viktor von Domm wrote:an old wife...



What? An old wife? Look dude, don't make me tell your mom you are comparing her to an old man.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:45:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if you kknew ger at all you would understand why i am now thinking of danny devito...^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:52:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


OOOOH, dude, that's harsh.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 19:58:00


Post by: shrike


Well, as he said, you haven't met her


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 20:49:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well...to be fair she has not black hair... but the rest is pretty much the same i am not on good terms as one might have guessed from that comparrision^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 22:54:03


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:no that´s not fair... you can worry after you have built them... not before...

i think you bring yourself into an impasse situation... maybe you shouldn´t push yourself and the project so hard? i mean...stop making yourself schedules and such things... let the hobby flow... do what makes you enjoy...don´t think you HAVE to do anything... i think you are beginning to loose the fun in the game (figurativly speaking)...


This sounds very similar to the conversation we had with you Vik modellers block or just bloody frustration


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Your model is looking amazing so stop kicking your own arse over work you aint done yet


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 22:56:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well i guess it is just in the hobby mix... from time to time you have stared too long on your work and you get blinded by it... but thats why we are here from the neighberhood watch scheme... to prod and protect!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 22:58:03


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:well i guess it is just in the hobby mix... from time to time you have stared too long on your work and you get blinded by it... but thats why we are here from the neighberhood watch scheme... to prod and protect!


Yes, the grot tank has hit a wall no literally hit the wall ……. yes thanks for the input on that Vik


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 23:00:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh...that grot tank is on my to do list ever since... you havent ruined it now , haven´t you?---ohoh...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 23:14:12


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:ohoh...that grot tank is on my to do list ever since... you havent ruined it now , haven´t you?---ohoh...


No could not bring myself to that (yet) just hit a block so have pushed it to one side, mind you some of Kit's Amazing Zinge extra's might help to relight the passion Not the cast of his arse though …… that is just strange


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 23:27:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think kit will never really get out of this number without loosing a bit of his honorable face^^..er ...bum...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/15 23:28:43


Post by: dsteingass


We are like a roving band of marauders, Crashing from thread to thread....lol


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 00:46:11


Post by: jabbakahut


I like those inverted rivets, works good for the smallest detail, although I've got these rivet makers which can make them below 1/32"....

Just posted this in another forum, but it seemed fitting here as well.






And the deck in the cockpit makes sense, I doubt I have any photos of it, I was in the military and it makes sense that the cockpit would exist on a command deck which would be somewhat isolated from the other stuff.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 02:46:24


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oh wow, thats a nice machine!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 03:12:36


Post by: Galorn


jabbakahut wrote:I like those inverted rivets, works good for the smallest detail, although I've got these rivet makers which can make them below 1/32"....

Just posted this in another forum, but it seemed fitting here as well.






And the deck in the cockpit makes sense, I doubt I have any photos of it, I was in the military and it makes sense that the cockpit would exist on a command deck which would be somewhat isolated from the other stuff.


Where'd you get those? (adds to list next to the "chopper" from micromark, and the "tube tools" that showed up recently...)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 03:27:32


Post by: mxwllmdr


Dude those are sweet! Where did you get them?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 09:23:41


Post by: jabbakahut


A few years back, 2007 or 2008. I saw someone on a foreign board (Maybe Spain)? Using them, I sent him a PM and he told me they're from this company in Mexico. I couldn't find any information about it, but his local shop could get them, So I had to import something from Mexico to Spain, and then had it sent to me. I've never been able to find them again. On the reverse there is a diamond pattern (like the Dakka background), and I've used it as a stamp in green stuff rather effectively too. If anybody can find where to get them, I'm still missing the hex bolt one, it makes it like the square bolt, with the raised stem in the middle.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 09:44:11


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:We are like a roving band of marauders, Crashing from thread to thread....lol


Half the time I cant remember what thread I am on


jabbakahut @ Brother Argos over on work in progress forum had a load of those rivet makers, I believe he picked his up in the states when he was working over there. So I think they must be available some where, however that was a few years back now.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 09:57:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


sounds like an odysee to me^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 10:16:39


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:sounds like an odysee to me^^





Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 10:26:46


Post by: dsteingass


Hex Bolt Like this?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 15:53:40


Post by: RSJake


Looks like you're a few bolts shy of a flange there Dave!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 19:42:20


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHA, that funny, I don't care who you are.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 20:18:23


Post by: dsteingass


Old pic, trust me- they are there now!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 20:56:31


Post by: RSJake


I'm just messin' with ya!



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 22:29:13


Post by: Rawson


RSJake wrote:Looks like you're a few bolts shy of a flange there Dave!

TOTALLY SIGGED!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 22:30:39


Post by: dsteingass


LOL hahaha


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/16 23:25:16


Post by: Gitsplitta


Riveter's humor.... *sigh*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/17 00:53:49


Post by: Capitansolstice


Gitsplitta wrote:Riveter's humor.... *sigh*

QFT totally


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/17 01:10:47


Post by: Brother Paen


Hey MX, sorryso long to respond. The kids are off this week so I`ve been busy. Now ...as far as extra sprue goes, I've always bought Land Raider and razorback sprues. These give great options when scratching. I was gonna build another T-Hawk and needed the parts. The Turbolaser is extra 'cause I built two Stormlords, leaving the guns available . You could just buy the sprue from Thewarstore.com. My builds are nowhere near as nice as you guy so I have to put GW bits in to distract from my flaws.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/17 15:16:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


S'allright, been busy myself......

And yes, your builds are as nice as ours.....








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Well, maybe not as nice as Dave's....


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LOL, Just kidding, your stuff is great.....



OF which speaking are the Star Wars Pics up yet???????


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 11:59:42


Post by: mxwllmdr


OK, so I have been busy of late. I have been reading all your threads and chiming in occasionally but haven't had time to work or be involved. BUT now that my wife's birthday is done and the new puppy is integrated into the house all that is changing.....


Hence, photos.....

First off, tried some very small rivets on the canopy to see how they look. Kinda hard to see them with all the detail sketching I have done on the plastic....


Next up, I was struggling with whether or not to scratch out a TLD fo rthis guy with the SHadowsword as a template but i the end decided to shorten the barrel Brother Paen donated. I was worried about whether or not it would look out of place amongst all the scratch parts. Tell me what you think.







The wingtip heavy bolters proved to be a little trickier to install than I expected. THis I think is a direct result of have the real thing when I had previously been anticipating scrathing them out to fit externally, whereas these needed to fit into the wing so the ammo belts could still remain....



They spin on their magnetized connection and pivot as they should but aren't glued together yet, for painting purposes..... Also, this one needs a little tightening and still need to take it apart and finish the mold lines and sprue mark removal...... And the barrels need driling out.....

THe front twinlinkers were a little easy, actually. had to trim off the tabs on the upper and lower parts of the mount so they would sit flush against the bulkhead, but other than that, simple. Unfortunately, because the mount had to be glued on and the ammo box that takes the place of the belt had to be attached, the only part of this that is still unattached (for painting) is the gun shield that goes on top.





I sorta like the low profile that this turned out to have. Those weapons on the side of the front end of this flying brick was always something that bothered me.....

Last (for this update) but not least, The Turbo Lasers on the upper wingtips. Brother Paen, again, donated these twinlinkers from a Land Raider sprue. Had to trim off the power cable and flatten that edge and then lengthen the barrel.



Still need to add a little structural detail to the attached lasers to make it look a little less chinzy....



Ok, that's where it stands for today..... I think that the main gun deck could have been beefier, but it is a result of the shortened rear end that I wanted so I have to deal with it. I think it turned out well, though.

And the last thing I need to add, weapons wise, is the missiles. Those I may have to scratch or press mold from one that I have.... We will see....

I am concerned about the look of the main gun deck mostly, so hit me up with your thoughts on that, please......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 12:01:58


Post by: dsteingass


That is some badassery smothered in awesome sauce my friend!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 12:03:17


Post by: mxwllmdr


lone dirty dog wrote:
Viktor von Domm wrote:no that´s not fair... you can worry after you have built them... not before...

i think you bring yourself into an impasse situation... maybe you shouldn´t push yourself and the project so hard? i mean...stop making yourself schedules and such things... let the hobby flow... do what makes you enjoy...don´t think you HAVE to do anything... i think you are beginning to loose the fun in the game (figurativly speaking)...


This sounds very similar to the conversation we had with you Vik modellers block or just bloody frustration


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Your model is looking amazing so stop kicking your own arse over work you aint done yet


Lookin gback on what I haven't been around for.... You guys rock.... I am glad to have you around, well as around as the internet allows, to prod me on....




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Thanks, D....



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 12:14:30


Post by: Trondheim


Oh by Odin! This is sheer awesomsauce! May I offer you large sums of money and my first born for a TH like that?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 13:03:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well....be sure that bthe stuffed cushion is easy to reach for...so be weary of any selfdoubt!

looks as if that is the proof of the pudding as you have produced selfconfidently the utomst best flyer i have seen...

now armed this fella looks deadly as sin!

i think in particular that the shortening of the maingunbarrel made the most visual effort here... good decision!

the lasguns on the smaller wings now give me a very positive x-wing vibe!

great work mate!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 13:07:08


Post by: Gitsplitta


Really made some nice progress mx... your work is a joy to behold. Keep at it!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 13:19:11


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


I think youre fear of the turbolaser looking too detailed is completely ungrounded. If anything the laser looks under detailed compared to the rest of your bird!

It seriously looks amazing, massive congrats dude.

Love the lengthened lascannon, and its looking even better with the HBs on the wings.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 13:47:59


Post by: Galorn


Looking really good so far Max.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 14:35:05


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks everyone, she isn't done though so stay tuned.....

And thanks, Brother Paen. These bits turned out amazing......

Still have to figure out the missiles.....


Trondheim wrote:Oh by Odin! This is sheer awesomsauce! May I offer you large sums of money and my first born for a TH like that?


Haha, Thanks Trondheim, but no. Sadly, this will be one of the only two of these I will build......


On a completely unrelated note:

Horst, that kid hasn't arrived here yet and I have a lot of riveting to get done............


Problem?

(LOL)


Vitruvian XVII wrote:I think you're fear of the turbolaser looking too detailed is completely ungrounded. If anything the laser looks under detailed compared to the rest of your bird!

It seriously looks amazing, massive congrats dude.

Love the lengthened lascannon, and its looking even better with the HBs on the wings.


Thanks, Vit. After having it together for almost a day now, I am tending to agree that the GW bits aren't the detractor I thought they would be and I know my scratched guns wouldn't have been as good as the real ones are.........



Viktor von Domm wrote:well....be sure that bthe stuffed cushion is easy to reach for...so be weary of any selfdoubt!

looks as if that is the proof of the pudding as you have produced selfconfidently the utomst best flyer i have seen...
now armed this fella looks deadly as sin!

i think in particular that the shortening of the maingunbarrel made the most visual effort here... good decision!

the lasguns on the smaller wings now give me a very positive x-wing vibe!

great work mate!


Star wars, yes, that is what I was going for in a lot of aspects with this......
I have always thought that Imperial forces reminded me very much of The Empires forces.....

Dude, that means a lot to me, but I have had a heck of a time getting her this far and I hope she turns out as good when finished as you think she is already....




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 16:54:49


Post by: Horst


words fail to describe how awesome this is looking so far.

but damn... its as good as I'd hoped so far.

Not sure what you mean by a kid though :( If you want my firstborn, I don't have one yet, but I'll gladly send you some of the ingredients to make one if you want.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 18:39:41


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHA....
























No thanks..........











Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 21:16:21


Post by: monkeyh


Nice work mx. Look forward to the next post when you've done the rivets - in a few weeks (by the Emperor that's a lot of rivets to do!)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 23:28:45


Post by: lone dirty dog


Horst thats nasty

Well, after trailing through this and getting a glimpse of the good stuff, it is coming on nicely indeed.

However I am starting to feel this self doubt is a cunning plan just to feed your ego, after all there is no way you can believe that this is not impressive work.

Plus can the next shot have the legs, I am missing the legs …….

Dam how can you doubt those bolters what the hell I am coming over there to kick your ass myself ……. self doubt my arse .


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 23:46:35


Post by: Horst


yea... those bolters look cool and all, but they don't scream "GAMES WORKSHOP" to me in the way the official ones do.

They look fine, but they don't really convey the warhammer 40k feel in the same way.

That said, I'm SUPER happy you got ahold of the bolters you did, and the main gun you did.

Looking forward to painting this sucker.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/19 23:50:23


Post by: shrike


Gitsplitta wrote:Riveter's humor.... *sigh*

I find thier work so riveting, I bolt for the laptop as soon as I get home so I don't miss out on any of the nutty conversations.

on topic, great work man, keep it up! ^^

wish I could model half as good as this...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 01:45:09


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i am in love with those lascannons in the wing, looks great!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 02:22:02


Post by: dsteingass


I can hear the riveting now!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 04:48:16


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....



Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools.........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 05:19:55


Post by: spudkins


Loving all the updates. Cant wait for the day of it been painted.
Peace


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 05:28:42


Post by: Horst


spudkins wrote:Loving all the updates. Cant wait for the day of it been painted.
Peace


You have NO idea how boss it is going to look.

Its going to be a challenge, but by god it will look good when its done. Anything less than a master paintjob would be dishonorable ><


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 05:38:34


Post by: jabbakahut


I agree with other, the main gun looks fine, you can't really tell matching until you get it primed (in my opinion). It would be real easy to spot when details wax or wane when everything is the same color.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 08:12:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think your selfmade bolters look fine tho i also have to say they don´t emit that imperial feel... more a bit orky in my opinion...

and i think it all looks so well max that you still have the option to feth it all up once you reach the paintingstage... a good model can always look ruined by a bad paintjob^^ so feel free to panic at a later moment


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 12:28:02


Post by: mxwllmdr


jabbakahut wrote: you can't really tell matching until you get it primed


That is what I am most afraid of.... Horst gets it primed and it either washes out all the detail or pops out the details in some places but not others. Trying to keep things even all over so that is minimized. Luckily Horst is such a good painter. A really good painter can put detail in where there is none (or little) and play down any details that are too over the top. If the detail is sufficient all over I can imagine a good painter would find it incredibly simple to do an amazing paint job.....


Building this model with how it will be painted in mind is so damn difficult because I don't know a lot about how to paint....... Fething good job on my part I think so far.

Yeah, I do know just how good it is, LDD. I also (being so close into the build of course) know how much better it could be, unfortunately. No ego feeding ploys here. Please, remember I have no need for a thunderhawk and simply wanted to do it. Giving it a good home to Horst imparts a lot of responsibility on me, though, and knowing some peoples dedication to there armies (and truly understanding Horst and his desire to have well painted armies) I think my worry isjustified....


But yeah, I am very happy with it overall and truly appreciate everyones feedback. Be honest and detailed with it though. Remember, it takes a village to raise a child and these are my babies..........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 15:12:22


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:
jabbakahut wrote: you can't really tell matching until you get it primed


That is what I am most afraid of.... Horst gets it primed and it either washes out all the detail or pops out the details in some places but not others. Trying to keep things even all over so that is minimized. Luckily Horst is such a good painter. A really good painter can put detail in where there is none (or little) and play down any details that are too over the top. If the detail is sufficient all over I can imagine a good painter would find it incredibly simple to do an amazing paint job.....


Building this model with how it will be painted in mind is so damn difficult because I don't know a lot about how to paint....... Fething good job on my part I think so far.

Yeah, I do know just how good it is, LDD. I also (being so close into the build of course) know how much better it could be, unfortunately. No ego feeding ploys here. Please, remember I have no need for a thunderhawk and simply wanted to do it. Giving it a good home to Horst imparts a lot of responsibility on me, though, and knowing some peoples dedication to there armies (and truly understanding Horst and his desire to have well painted armies) I think my worry isjustified....


But yeah, I am very happy with it overall and truly appreciate everyones feedback. Be honest and detailed with it though. Remember, it takes a village to raise a child and these are my babies..........


It is looking great, and should paint up very nicely (It will need an AB for best results, but Meh) The amount of detail you have been adding is not over the top, but just enough that painting will make it pop.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 15:19:10


Post by: mxwllmdr


I agree and Horst Airbrushes a lot, so thats cool....


And that is precisely what I wanted, just right......


Galorn, take a look at the detail on the engines. I am afraid that the diameter of the intake/exhausts is too much larger than all the piping and diameter of the burner shaft......

I think it needs to be "puffed" up a little......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 15:32:29


Post by: Horst


its going to get this style of paintjob -



I actually have a second stormraven to build... they are going to be an "honor guard" for the thunderhawk. Together, they can deliver 25 assault terminators and 2 dreadnoughts into the heart of an enemy... very cool


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 15:40:12


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey, I think that I am gonna send you a sample of the PC I am using so you can experiment with primers and paints...

Some paints don't look right on PC and adjustments may be necessary so you get a cohesive paint job between those and the Electro-Hawk.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 16:31:55


Post by: Capitansolstice


Well... It looks like a white version of a FW thawk, with pretty lights!! Great job!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 16:58:24


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:I agree and Horst Airbrushes a lot, so thats cool....


And that is precisely what I wanted, just right......


Galorn, take a look at the detail on the engines. I am afraid that the diameter of the intake/exhausts is too much larger than all the piping and diameter of the burner shaft......

I think it needs to be "puffed" up a little......


Nah those will look fine once painted/weathered. At most I'd say MAYBE add some "piping" around the items you already have. (thick gauge wire bent/clipped to shape would do for the "piping")

It should look great.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 18:48:17


Post by: mxwllmdr


Cool, thanks, I had already planned some more smaller wiring type details but wanted a second opinion...




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 21:03:36


Post by: dsteingass


mxwllmdr wrote:Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....
Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools.........


Sigged again!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 21:09:57


Post by: mxwllmdr


Man....



Am I full of sig or what?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 22:16:58


Post by: Brother Paen


Wow brother. The piece is coming along beautifully. Do not let that aircraft depart without an "eyes on" inspection by me . I must soak in the awesomeness. Oh and Horst if this ever needs a new home contact me.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 22:44:17


Post by: Capitansolstice


Brother Paen wrote: Wow brother. The piece is coming along beautifully. Do not let that aircraft depart without an "eyes on" inspection by me . I must soak in the awesomeness. Oh and Horst if this ever needs a new home contact me.

Oh! This is for horst?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 23:40:23


Post by: Horst


Capitansolstice wrote:
Brother Paen wrote: Wow brother. The piece is coming along beautifully. Do not let that aircraft depart without an "eyes on" inspection by me . I must soak in the awesomeness. Oh and Horst if this ever needs a new home contact me.

Oh! This is for horst?


<Rubs hands together hungrily>

muwahahah... soon my pretty! soon!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/20 23:49:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ok...why do i have a mental image of some weird looking hobbit now in my head?...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 00:48:05


Post by: Capitansolstice


Viktor von Domm wrote:ok...why do i have a mental image of some weird looking hobbit now in my head?...

Yeah me too


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 08:35:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Capitansolstice wrote:
Viktor von Domm wrote:ok...why do i have a mental image of some weird looking hobbit now in my head?...

Yeah me too



that is something so strange that doesn´t make me instantly wish i had thrown my display out of the window...that is a first one^^ needs to be repeated...

(by the way...is that you cap?)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 12:37:49


Post by: Capitansolstice


No, Im younger... I just searched crazy hobbit
lol


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 16:23:21


Post by: mxwllmdr


It does sorta resemble Horst, though........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 18:10:36


Post by: Horst


It kinda does... here's a picture of me -



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 18:50:19


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHA is that your facebook profile foto? I knew that hobbit looked like you!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 19:33:39


Post by: Horst


mxwllmdr wrote:HAHA is that your facebook profile foto? I knew that hobbit looked like you!!!!


I don't often use facebook. But when I do, I post pictures of myself burning down forests.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 19:55:04


Post by: jabbakahut


This thread makes me laugh, sometimes I get frustrated reading tons of new posts with no updates (what a tease), but at least there is a metal hobbit here!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 20:36:52


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Thats one freaky hobbit dude!

@ mxwllmdr I think that this is just getting better all of the time!




You are a true inspiration to me.



Keep up the amazing work!
-SH


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 20:57:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nasty eyes horst... by the way... why the name? you got some german roots or what?

at cap...touche´


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 22:34:31


Post by: Horst


Viktor von Domm wrote:nasty eyes horst... by the way... why the name? you got some german roots or what?

at cap...touche´


Yup. Background is almost entirely German, fathers side emigrated to USA to escape Hitler, mothers side was German already in America.

Thanks Hitler!

But yea... the name Horst is just an amalgamation of my real first and last name. First 3 characters of the last name HOR + first 2 characters of my first name ST = HORST.

It was the naming scheme they used when I worked for verizon for employee usernames, and I thought it was cool, so I kept it. Before then, I went by like 10-15 different online handles, none of which really felt "right".


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/21 22:38:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah well my family wanted to get out of country too back then... didn´t work out that way... but at least they stayed alive... well...other bad things happened here later on so it was rather out of the fire into the frying pan...

i see... good choice of name and all...tho i could give you a german nasty joke about that one... tho this might in a way spoil your name for you^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 00:21:53


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Horst wrote:
mxwllmdr wrote:HAHA is that your facebook profile foto? I knew that hobbit looked like you!!!!


I don't often use facebook. But when I do, I post pictures of myself burning down forests.

thats the way its done! you smokey the bear!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 14:26:06


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks, Silver, I appreciate it....

No do something with that inspiration....

As far as getting more updates, Jabba, i have decided to take thrity days paid leave in April to finish up these things....


I am expecting to have the Electr-Hawk done by the 1st (that is saying so without making any schedules, thank you, Vik). And I hope to have most of the mass build complete by the 5th of May. The Loyalist Reaver and it's twin Lucius Warhound escorts will be shipping out by the first of April as well, hopefully. I needed the break from it but simply must get back to work on it......

And, Horst, something comes to mind.....




Why you always mean mugging?



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 20:45:42


Post by: dsteingass


Best git to riveting then!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 21:16:57


Post by: mxwllmdr


It may take til then to rivet this bad, bad girl.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 21:33:06


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:It may take til then to rivet this bad, bad girl.......




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 22:12:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thirty days? iirc god had seven days to make the world... well i think this should make you ableto reach outer space ^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 22:56:41


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I most certainly am going to use this inspiration!

Bought some plasticard (Way over priced me think) and
I'm starting work on a scratch built Malcador.

Well we'll see how well that goes...

-Silver


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 23:14:02


Post by: Viktor von Domm


try to have a look at shasolenzabi´s work here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326377.page


a lot of stupid banter...mostly on my own following part here... but some excellent scratchbuilding on tanks there...also lots of tankbuilding inspiration...i think his is THE referrece thread on tanks...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/22 23:37:06


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Thanks Vik I'll go right there and check it out!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 01:18:57


Post by: mxwllmdr


When I first started this obsession a year and a half ago I searched for and found all manner of templayes for a lot of things, the Malcador among them. I found that better building comes from using the actual models as reference rather than some papercraft templates. I do have them if your interested, though.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 06:14:09


Post by: jabbakahut


SilverHayabusa wrote:I most certainly am going to use this inspiration!

Bought some plasticard (Way over priced me think) and
I'm starting work on a scratch built Malcador.

Well we'll see how well that goes...

-Silver

Buy in bulk, way cheaper! Shipping isn't bad either.
10 Sheet of 40"x72"!!!!!
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22883


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 08:03:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:When I first started this obsession a year and a half ago I searched for and found all manner of templayes for a lot of things, the Malcador among them. I found that better building comes from using the actual models as reference rather than some papercraft templates. I do have them if your interested, though.


i am at a papercraft forum too and i have collcted due to my own researches quite a nice bunch of odd templates too... hummer among them to name but one^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:01:55


Post by: SilverHayabusa


@ mxwllmdr - I have some templates that I managed to find online. But would love anything that you could send to help me out.



@ jabbakahut - That is awesome! I had looked on that sight before but could not tell what I should order. My next order will definatly be in bulk. I have just never worked with plasticard before and didn't want to get some and realise I can't stand the stuff.

But it has to be better than bristol board...




-Silver


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:04:26


Post by: dsteingass


oh hell no! Bristol Board sucks! impossible to cut. Plasticard is super easy, score and snap, score and snap.- stick with 1mm (o.40") stuff.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:31:21


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I currently have alittle .040" I thought that it would be the best middle ground to start with. I'm thinking that cardstock would be better that bristolboard for templets. Because it will go through a printer.


-Silver


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:41:30


Post by: mxwllmdr


That's who I buy from. I usually buy like three sheets of .040, two of .030 and one or two of .030.....


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Then I buy all my tubing and rod from Evergreen....

Evergreen Scale Model Supply


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:56:43


Post by: dsteingass


I just used heavy paper for my necro building templates, not a problem at all.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 14:59:54


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Evergreen's all that my hobby store sells so I have alittle of that in round. But ordering online has alittle better prices I see so that'll be that way to go.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 15:03:10


Post by: dsteingass


Evergreen is priced MUCH better than Plastruct! But Plastruct has more specialty shapes than evergreen.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 15:17:52


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yes, but not by so much as to make them a mandatory source. I get along just fine with Evergreen.....


Would like to see hex or octagonal tubing or rod available forom anyone.....

With out using a rod from my blinds.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 15:54:49


Post by: Brother Paen


Damn you for making me look at my blinds now. Dont you all love the feeling you get when you find that object that " would make a perfect ..." and your (wife ,friend, kid, random shopper) look at you like WTF?. My wife has actually taken to "asking before trashing", gotta love it.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 16:47:44


Post by: mxwllmdr


Same here, feels good some times....


Sometimes it feels weird or embarassing but mostly good......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 16:50:42


Post by: lone dirty dog


Yes been there and still do, at least the misses does not give me that confused look anymore ……… more a here we go again one instead


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 18:06:50


Post by: mxwllmdr


I saw some motorized construction equipment in Wally World the other day and professed a desire to spend forty dollars on them just to have the rubberized track and gearing for some Vindicators and Predators I want to customize. My wife thought I was absolutely nuts....


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 18:43:51


Post by: dsteingass


My GF encourages purchases like that!
I'm no fool, she is a keeper


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:20:51


Post by: RSJake


You better put a ring on that Dave! If she gets away I'll have to be cross at you!

My wife is a master of the "here we go again" look! Sometimes I think it's also a "why did I marry this idiot?" look.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:25:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


My wife does, in fact, give me all the old daycare toys she no longer needs or need replacing. So that's good......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:42:49


Post by: dsteingass


Just tell the missus that you are recycling! It's the in-thing to do!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:52:45


Post by: RSJake


She's all for recycling....she's NOT all for me keeping a bunch of "garbage" in the house that she thinks should be set out in the alley!

For instance...I lost several 2 litre bottles that I though would make great "tanker" beds for an Ork Battlewagon when we had guests coming over, and she thought they "cuttered up the place"!
It didn't help matters when I mentioned all of her "Scrapbooking" supplies and "clutter" in the same breath...

...That's when the argument started.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:56:09


Post by: dsteingass


Ohhh! HAHA
you're in deep santorum now! lol

Buy some of those opaque plastic storage tubs, that can hide your "clutter" out of sight, out of mind!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 19:57:09


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




YOU SANTORUMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











LOLOLOLOLLROFLMAOLOLHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!






Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 20:22:53


Post by: RSJake


dsteingass wrote:Ohhh! HAHA
you're in deep santorum now! lol

Buy some of those opaque plastic storage tubs, that can hide your "clutter" out of sight, out of mind!!


"Santorumed!" Gonna be the new "Bonehead" name now huh?

"Boy I tell you, Dave really Santorumed that one! He'll be lucky if it doesn't leave a scar!"

The problem with the plastic bins is she'll complain about all of the Santoruming bins all over the house!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 21:04:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thankfully my own garbage collection is now sactioned by the wife...hell she even now looks out for junk for my needs...and ever since the family went out on newyears eve for treasurehunting for plastic pits of fireworks...the kids look for junk now too... plastic bottles from kindergarten... small bulletballs in the sandbox... my son felix brings everything he sees with potential back home... heck he yesterday talked his nurserynurse into giving me a roll of sticky paper...(peel off something...) i have successfully converted my family members to salvaging marouders...^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 23:42:03


Post by: Rogue Wolves


RSJake wrote:
dsteingass wrote:Ohhh! HAHA
you're in deep santorum now! lol

Buy some of those opaque plastic storage tubs, that can hide your "clutter" out of sight, out of mind!!


"Santorumed!" Gonna be the new "Bonehead" name now huh?

"Boy I tell you, Dave really Santorumed that one! He'll be lucky if it doesn't leave a scar!"

The problem with the plastic bins is she'll complain about all of the Santoruming bins all over the house!


... guys.. I just Santorumed in my pants... dont judge !

catpirate


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 23:42:57


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Vik you are one lucky man...


Thats all that can be said....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/23 23:57:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well...but sometimes i am forced to clean up by gunpoint... no i tell a lie... but she can be really mean when she has put her mind on it

and RW... i am seriously thinking to stick you for the remainder of this night into your cattoilet...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:21:48


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Ech Hem! that is not a cattolet vik it is a catbox get that right sir!



CATPIRATE
CATPIRATE
CATPIRATE
CATPIRATE
CATPIRATE

and he's gone, thats all the pirate cats for me today


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:45:01


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Well my wife is awesome in her own way...



She has given me the dinning room table for the greater good of my warhammer experiance!


That means that I no longer have to work on a endtable while sitting on the floor!



Yay...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:45:18


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Hey, I just tripped over my own jaw and thought I'd let you know I'm going to sue you for being to fracking awesome...

SWEET MOTHER OF FUDGE...


... thanks, new guy


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:54:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at RW... ah... i see the error of my ways...

at silver for freeing the hobby... hope you never spill any paint on the living room table... other wise i think you will be back to the endtable ^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:58:26


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Ah naw. She and I agree that our second hand dinningroom table will need a good sanding before it's ever used without a cover...


Then again we haven't actually used it yet...



Well. I have a large workspace and the blessing of my wife!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 00:58:28


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^ahh badab black.. that giant stain is the reason why i had to paint in a poorly lit basement at my old house


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 01:00:33


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Oh and I've updated my WIP thread so that I don't clog up here
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/432800.page#4067215


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 01:02:21


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oh i didnt spill it.. it DUMPED OUT, so yes spill, and it was on carpet too... im more angry that my badab black got wasted though..


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 04:33:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok, Everybody say Hi t the new Guy, AnUnearthlyChilde.

Welcome to the madness of our collective circle. I HIGHLY suggest you check out the threads of everybody who posts on this one, and everyone who posts on their threads as well. Yes that means reading through everything. It is worth it though because the madness we present to the public as a group is reciprocated in the talent my fellows display...

And, Silver, You are lucky, Yes. But my wife gave me the entire Garage.........

It doesn't matter if I spill my Badab Black. I hope I don't but if I do it won't end any priveledges fo rme......



Goal is, not schedule mind you, GOAL is to have thie Electro-Hawk rivetted this weekend. And maybe most of the rest of the detail........




Wish me luck.....


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Did you get that pun? HAHA I kill me......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 10:22:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Did you get that pun? HAHA I kill me......
better not...^^

well i have a cellar i could use... but it is moinst and cold in there so....

when recently my kids and wife were on a three week trip i spilled cheap black paint and partly ruined a small carpet with it... for now nobody has found out...*ducks*

Welcome to the madness of our collective circle. I HIGHLY suggest you check out the threads of everybody who posts on this one, and everyone who posts on their threads as well. Yes that means reading through everything. It is worth it though because the madness we present to the public as a group is reciprocated in the talent my fellows display...
just checking silvers stuff now... and yep... collective would have been also a good name for us if we hadn´t already coined the league phrase^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 12:09:11


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dont spill super glue on the living room carpet ……. after it has only been laid for 2 months yes she was disturbingly calm about it ….. which made me feel even worse and scared

However we did move to a larger house for my collective habits so cant complain really

Hello to the new guy welcomed to the world of the mad and disturbed, please be aware most conversations spill over to other threads therefore total coverage of all threads is recommended and required.

Which thread is this again


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 12:21:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Which thread is this again


i have that symptom way too often^^

uhhh...spilled superglue... now that would sure get some tough remarks from my wife...but maybe not...and for me too that might even be worse...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 12:36:41


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Oh don't worry, the interlaying threads will never be as confusing as my mind... Oddly I find it easier to follow the threads than my head :S


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 14:39:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol...THAT is saying much about someone^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 16:12:21


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Viktor von Domm wrote:lol...THAT is saying much about someone^^


ha! Very true...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 17:17:06


Post by: lone dirty dog


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Oh don't worry, the interlaying threads will never be as confusing as my mind... Oddly I find it easier to follow the threads than my head :S


Well welcome home you will fit right in here


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 22:08:38


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Welcome AnUnearthlyChilde to the addiction fueled fun of...


... what is it we do here again?


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Oh.. Modeling...?


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No this is more like my great uncles lodge...


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Well! Anyways I welcome you!


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@ max - Awesome to have the garage! I unfortunately only live in a one bedroom apartment so the dinning room is a massive amount of space to me...


Anyway... Go us and space to work!


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And I wish you luck on finishing the Electro-Hawk!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 22:46:23


Post by: mxwllmdr


Am riveting and detailing as we speak.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 22:48:16


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Btw did you ever finish those Reaver Titans?

Oh and as you seem to be the group of awesome peeps... how would you go about modelling Tyranid Terrain ?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 22:57:55


Post by: mxwllmdr


Probably will be until this time tomorrow.........


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Not yet but soon, as well as a whole bunch other stuff....


Tyranid terrain? Hmmmm that is a good one.....


I haven't ever but imagine a whole lot of GS will be necessary. That or Plaster of Paris.........



Or cash. That would work, as well. You could just build it out of cash.




But who am I kidding, no one has any of that........


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I guess there is a lot of organic involved in that, I am not the guy to ask about organic.....


You should head over to Imperial Renegade's threads and talk to him about that......





Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/24 23:01:59


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


... so very true... it's this damn GW/FW habbit... I just can't seem to kick it...


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Oh also, generally what thickness of plasticard do you usually use?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 00:20:46


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Good question...

I was wondering that as well...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 00:26:54


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Also, how do you shape your plasticard too...

arg insomnia makes me question everything... :/

why do I always have ideas right when I need to sleep


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 00:41:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


I use .404, .030 & .020


Those measurements are in inches. I buy from usplastics.com. It comes in 40x72in sheets tuat i cut down into squares. It is fairly cheap that way. I refer you to my Khorne warhound thread for a brief tut on the bending and shaping techniques I use. Or stick around here and wait a couple weeks for a massive build that will occur with crap ton o tut. People keep asking the same questions so I just need to tut this stuff so that ya'll can get down with the rivets....





Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 00:51:05


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Cheers me'dears. mucho helpful, now how to figure out making a dumpertruck load of rivets too... ¬_¬


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 00:56:54


Post by: mxwllmdr


Dude, i am in the middle of building 11 warhounds, three reavers, two thunderhawks and plan on starting a warlord soon.



Ask me about rivets six weeks from now......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 01:09:16


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


*sits blinking at the screen*







*blinks some more*






... erm, wow. You have way too much spare time


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 03:07:15


Post by: Galorn


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:*sits blinking at the screen*







*blinks some more*






... erm, wow. You have way too much spare time


If I remember the posts correctly... around 23 days of free time in april (one week is Adepticon... I think Max said he was going...)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 03:43:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh snap.....

Adepticon is in April.....

I am on leave all of April......

Where is Adepticon, again??????


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:18:28


Post by: Briancj


Chicago, IL, USA.

adepticon.org



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:22:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, there's a new name. Hello, brian. Welcome to the conversation.....



Chicago, Il, huh?



That is only four hours from me....



And I am on leave....

Hmmmmmm.........




Anybody else going?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:24:02


Post by: Galorn


I am...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:45:21


Post by: mxwllmdr


Let me checkout dates and costs.....




Maybe........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:47:39


Post by: Briancj


I've posted on this thread way earlier. Many Dakka-ites are going, myself included. I'm participating in the Team Tournament, my army is in my plog, in my sig.

Big ole' party. Adepticon is THE tabletop wargaming event of the year, way more than just 40K.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 04:54:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, welcome BACK to the conversation. Godd to know people are sticking around.




Rivetting rivetting is occuring here, photos later......


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Ok Canopy finished:



Front end started:




Man, I may just actually be here all night......


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I just realized that the front end and the canopy only make up about 1/12th the entire surface of the Electro-Hawk......








FML, why do I do this to myself......



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Break time!!!!!!!!


Smoke 'em if you got 'em..........


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Oh, before I go, someone remind me to get a couple triple A's before I come back.


These LED's have about twenty hours on this set and are starting to fade......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 06:21:14


Post by: Paranoia_Agent


The rivets look great and im very impressed with your canopy, alot of work ahead of you though keep your head up.

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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 12:57:27


Post by: dsteingass


OMG Beautiful Rivets!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 14:32:26


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Adepticon is a little far for me to travel...




keep up the good work, electro-hawk is looking awesome!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 16:28:40


Post by: DiDDe




that hawk looks soooo much cooler with the rivets there! great job!

keep them rivets coming!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 16:43:39


Post by: monkeyh


Agreed - rivets are looking good.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 16:48:49


Post by: Briancj


I would suggest, for this project, investing in a set of rechargeable batteries. You can get a set and a charger for darn cheap off of Amazon.com.

You also need a sound chip and a speaker and a mercury switch and...

--B.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 16:50:30


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Briancj wrote:I would suggest, for this project, investing in a set of rechargeable batteries. You can get a set and a charger for darn cheap off of Amazon.com.

You also need a sound chip and a speaker and a mercury switch and...

--B.



He'll never finish it/them if he does all that


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 16:51:43


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Briancj... I think that sometimes alittle less complicated can be better...



Although this by no means is less complicated....




Amazing work so far!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 17:04:21


Post by: mxwllmdr


No no no. I am saving the sound stuff for my noise marines. they will be playing disturbed down with the sickness.......



thats gonna be cool......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 17:11:11


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


now that, I have to see


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 19:20:04


Post by: Rawson


DiDDe wrote:that hawk looks soooo much cooler with the rivets there!

Why do you sound so surprised about that?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 20:28:58


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Everything looks better with rivets...




Just makes it look real. Even if it is too unbelevable.


They somehow make it so even a sceptic will belive...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 20:48:22


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Wow that canopy turned out great! This thing is turning out spool awsome


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 21:31:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yay!!! houston...we finally reached rivets!

max... see?! now you are seeing the full effect of ballistic riveting...looks totally awsome... it is tideous but man you are about to reach that peaceful state of rivet-zen... i am so proud of ye!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/25 22:41:06


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


OOOOH and to be a tad cheeky, I've started my background story for my hive fleet, and would appreciate some feedback if possible?

the link is in my signature


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 01:22:08


Post by: Brother Paen


Excellent... soon we shall see the power of this FULLY OPERATIONAL THUNDERHAWK.... Sorry I'm just so humbled by Plasti-Master Maxi-Won. Call for backup brother, I'm on standby.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 01:39:09


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Is it wrong that I got ever so slightly hyper when finding clear acrylic rod?

You seem to have infected me with something Max *shakes fist at you*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 01:52:46


Post by: jabbakahut


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:
Briancj wrote:I would suggest, for this project, investing in a set of rechargeable batteries. You can get a set and a charger for darn cheap off of Amazon.com.

You also need a sound chip and a speaker and a mercury switch and...

--B.



He'll never finish it/them if he does all that

Ha, I was just at Radio Shack the other day trying to figure out if I could use a sound module for anything cool. I was thinking maybe back ground explosion noise from a piece of terrain, might set battle mood.

Anybody remember the FW Squiggoth that someone put an Ipod speakers and dock into?

And yeah. rivets looking good!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 07:00:50


Post by: shrike


Sweet work so far man, may your end project be as awesome as this part, however far away that may be


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 10:36:32


Post by: dsteingass


^THIS^ is why we formed the -=]_,=- in the first place!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 10:56:56


Post by: mxwllmdr


I sort of invision the league as a public think tank for all things modeling, but mostly for riveting......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 11:16:18


Post by: SilverHayabusa


So what is the league really...? >.> .... <.< ...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 11:57:49


Post by: mxwllmdr


We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:07:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ROFL... (that was vik laughing... the monkey looks very stern...)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:16:11


Post by: SilverHayabusa


His muses...? Really??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:21:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well... from time to time their projects influence my own projects... because of shasolenzabi´s work i built two tanks and because of max´ work i build two walkers atm...

dave´s work has yet to be a bit sub par so that i can pluck up enough currage to tackle terrain building^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:28:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, so shaso and me do sub par work, is that it, Vik???????



















LOL






Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:46:22


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Oh max... You know that you work is very sub par.






... Maybe sub God's par....





... Maybe....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:48:50


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


mxwllmdr wrote:We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back......


otherwise known as "Biatches" hehehe


Oh look a rivet. . . . . *wanders off*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 12:52:54


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Oh I love rivets... Bought a bunch of plastic tubing for it... Planning on watching a movie and cutting rivets tonight after classes today.


Hey max is .047" good for rivets do you think? Or should I use larger or smaller?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 13:19:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:Oh, so shaso and me do sub par work, is that it, Vik???????

LOL






not by far... but your stuff i only used as inspiration... and did something completly different... with terrain it all (at least for me...) turns into a general direction... that´s why i feel not comfy to do that right now...

am i off the hook now?...*cringes*


i think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 13:39:31


Post by: Rogue Wolves


mxwllmdr wrote:We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back......

siged


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 14:14:33


Post by: mxwllmdr


This is the hook:




Vik isn't on it....



Silver, I use that and .030, .040, .060 and .080.....


I also use a standard hole punch....


I also use the hair that is falling out of my head. But for sanitary reasons I don't recommend that......


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It's ok, Vik, the swear filters don't catch the word Santorum....


Sigged, BTW.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 14:17:37


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Hey! I have alot of that laying around!
That might save me alot of money in the long run...

... Never had thought of useing parts of my body for building with...


Thanks for the idea Vik!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 14:27:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok, so the ABSOLUTE LAST major construction part is finished. The winglet Aelerons are on AND riveted:








And the look rather sub-par IMHO....


LOL

See that neat looking thing under the wingtip of the second picture? Milk bottle top from McDonald's. Planning some wonderful things with them.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 14:42:12


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Looks AWESOME!!!! Love the rivets.

And that thumb that you attacted to it is so realistic!



I want that milk lid....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 15:01:31


Post by: RSJake


@SilverHayabusa - ALL sizes of plastic rod and pretty much anything small and round-ish in shape are good and indead REQUIRED for making rivets! Heck, who needs round? We use hex rod for bolts and nuts! What about square rod you say? Ork Rivets! Those itty bitty little balls in the water filters? Yes! Use them! Just drill a small indentation for them to fit into first. They look great on power armor. Heck, if you're in a pinch, you can even use small amounts of glue in several aplications. (I haven't used that last method to great effect, and I don't recomment it, but others have done well by it.)

And welcome AnUnearthlyChilde!

@ Max: HOLY JEEBUS! What kind of santorum are you on to be able to churn out this amount of pure gold? Love it! And I second the needing of the milk lid! Now, I just need to have someone go to McDevil's to get one (or many) for me! I dare not go in there myself, or I will walk out with $100 in Big Macs! I am weak, and the only way to resist the pull is to stay as far away as I can.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 15:05:42


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


How much soul do you have left... or did you lose that along with your sanity Max?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 15:52:56


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, @Brother Paen, Next weekend I go on thirty days leave. My full time job for thirty WHOLE days is to build, build, build.










Spoiler:
I may start a Warlord.......


Spoiler:
If enough of the mass build gets done, that is....





If I ever lost any soul, or sanity, I did so long enough ago to not remember how much or how.



Probably built a new one since then, anyway......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 16:05:13


Post by: RSJake


Built himself a new soul! With Rivets!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 16:08:05


Post by: SilverHayabusa


The soul of a riveter!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 16:23:33


Post by: mxwllmdr


It will last longer with rivets.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 16:29:52


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


mxwllmdr wrote:It will last longer with rivets.....


I think that'll end up being my quote... except, I'd be replacing rivets with Chitin


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 16:30:33


Post by: SilverHayabusa


And it will be harder to distroy...


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 18:24:58


Post by: shrike


Aye, the league is basically the punishment reward/whip and carrot for vik, sometimes combined... thier works drive vik to work more, so more like whipping him with a carrot...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 20:00:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


carrots for whipping?...ye ole whippersnapper, ye!

at max:

It will last longer with rivets.....


that´s what she said... (ohoh...*ducks*)

mate... i dunno zip what an Aelerons is but whatever you did... looks tasty...who needs teeth when tasty rivets inna bowl are standing on the table...ok...the bowl in sight is actually a T-hawk...but heck... looks tasty nevertheless...and you did mention milkbottle caps... so am i really under a misaprehension?

so you mentioned building a warlord titan...am i reading you right... about bloody time master of titans!!!

how come you can have 30 days free of work? do all of the warmongers go on vacation too???


oh and thanks for the honor of being sigged^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 20:03:28


Post by: mxwllmdr


Welcome. I do it so rarely. And change it often.....


Warlord, maybe.... Thats a lot of work.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 20:31:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


by the way... that hook joke... LMAO... i am currently at the right resolution of my display to have to scroll down to see that joke... a nice punchline... delivered with pleasure^^

iirc the warlord is more boxy looking...this couldmean a change of materials... the warhounds you did relied heavyly on tubes... is there a way to get rectangular tubes as well?...i think airconditioning has sometimes these for uses... but i think they are a bit pricey...



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 20:35:58


Post by: mxwllmdr


No, I think it will be mainly done in boxes of different shapes and sizes made out of styrene sheet......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/26 20:40:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ahhhh... ok... that sounds like a plan already^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/27 01:11:05


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Warlord? ... Really? ....


Dude you make plans like me....


And Ideas....


My friend that got me into 40k says that I'm a hobby butterfly for this...


I agree that I tend to jump around in my head but that is what I do....


But if I am a hobby butterfly then I'm the steam punk riveted hobby butterfly of DOOM!!!!!



MWAHAHAhahahahahahaha.....



.... Haha...




....ha...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/27 01:38:21


Post by: Briancj


I wa being very silly about the sound generator.

And I have a TON of those milk caps. They're just so perfect for...something. Exhausts. Teleport pads. Thingies. Whatnots.

--B.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/03/27 02:25:07


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Sir Vikington Inc. wrote:
SilverHayabusa wrote:

steam punk riveted hobby butterfly of DOOM!!!!!
Im sorry sir, but this name is copyritten by our corperation.. use without permission will lead to sivere concequences...