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Is there any truth to this?

Lots of crazy talk on various forums this weekend. Here is a rundown of what the community hivemind is trying to piece together from the intermittant chatter out there:

January: Tyranids
February: Beastmen
March-May: Blood Angels
June-July: Fantasy 8th Edition Rulebook
September: Fantasy 8th Edition Boxed Set
Fall: 40K mystery codex: ~hints regarding it are:
-"Blood Angels are only half of the story"
-"fleet based marines"
-"very nice stuff winging its way in our direction"

There is talk of 3 codices in 2010 for 40k
General dispositions of various 40k armies awaiting new codices are described as:
-Necrons: Deep in the development cycle
-Dark Eldar: Deep in the development cycle
-Grey Knights: Work started
-Witchhunters: Work Started


On the Fantasy front, Tomb Kings and Orks&Goblins are getting a certain level of chatter out there.
   
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*sounds the Brimstone Horn of Summoning*

Would be interesting if it's true.

Plastic GK terminators would sell me, finally, on a Marine force.
   
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definitely could be. does that mean you'll see the effects before the next US presidential election considering DE have been "in the works" according to rumors for the past few years? no. bols weekend rumor roundups feel like someone just aggregating all the fanboi wishlisting from multiple forums in one place.
   
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WH & DH are among the oldest Codices, and ripe for revision whenever GW gets around to them. They're "due" for Codices, just like DE & Necrons.

Tho I'd like to see this split as as SoB & =I=...

   
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I know my Daemons look forward to the end of allied Inquisitors with Mystics and PsyCannons.
   
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I'm just a bit puzzled that they're actually doing it. I thought they scratched that idea, because the original books where just a by-product of the Inquisitor game.
   
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Far as I recall, weren't the Inquisition books being redone as a single volume this time?

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Thats the Rumor

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As for the mystery book, my money is on Dark Angels.

'Other side' of Blood Angels could be alluding to the previous Angels of Death Codex which covered both.

'Fleet Based'. The Rock, duh.

'Winging it's way' Death and Ravenwing anyone?

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Anung Un Rama wrote:I'm just a bit puzzled that they're actually doing it. I thought they scratched that idea, because the original books where just a by-product of the Inquisitor game.

Not Witchhunters. WH was Sisters of Battle with a some Inquisitor entries slapped on. WH doesn't need any Inquisition units, and could stand to have Arbites and Frateris Militia restored.

   
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CaseyVa wrote:I know my Daemons look forward to the end of allied Inquisitors with Mystics and PsyCannons.


Except, most likely, if the Codexes are redone...allied Inquisitors will stay in.

I recall them saying that was a point that they were quite proud of, and that it fit the feel of the Inquisition...showing up where least expected, rallying the forces of the Emperor to their cause and laying down some Holy Smiting.
   
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Mmmm... pretty sure they are going to do away with the allying rule, thats part of GW's goal with the latest set of codecies, to eliminate all cross-referencing, and have ach codex list all available options for an army. To compensate for this, they will probably increase the amount of IG/SM options available in the codex itself.

As for the release schedule, word over at warseer is that March-May will be Ogre Kingdoms. Initially it was suspected that it would be Tomb Kings instead, but Brimstone seems to have confirmed or at least suggested otherwise (in fact, he downright said that the rumor of OK in May was entirely reasonable and then winked...)

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Oh look, DE are in 'development' as usual.
   
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We will be getting the DE on December 22nd 2012.

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So based of the rumors we are looking at 3 codex updates for next year... And two of them are Space Marines....

What....

The......

feth.....


   
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@jp: Like that's a surprise? It's what it is.

   
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CaseyVa wrote:I know my Daemons look forward to the end of allied Inquisitors with Mystics and PsyCannons.


Except, most likely, if the Codexes are redone...allied Inquisitors will stay in.

I recall them saying that was a point that they were quite proud of, and that it fit the feel of the Inquisition...showing up where least expected, rallying the forces of the Emperor to their cause and laying down some Holy Smiting.


Oh, I agree that Inquisition as allies will still be 'in', I just don't think it will be with anywhere near the variety of choices and such that we have right now.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the special buffs of the retinue are toned way down (they all become stats boosts or gun-like effects) or eliminated entirely.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if I'm completely wrong and everything is in there still, and more!

   
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You heard it here first.

I heard from a completely unreliable source(e.g. I made it up just now) that Grey Knight Titans will be Troops Choices in the Inquisition codex, and that five of them can combine and channel "Might of the Emperor".

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On topic:
I can see them doing it like the IG advisors, perhaps.
Wonder what a Grey Knight Justicar's advisor power would be?
   
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I hate "powers" "special character unlocking" and all that other "modern codex" stuff with a passion, so I hope that they keep it pretty much how it is, add xenos, and call it done.

also sculpt better daemon hosts.

   
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:As for the mystery book, my money is on Dark Angels.


Really ? Even with them having a fairly recent codex. I guess it's not impossible, but I woudl suggest there are other Marine codices out there that would need updating with curent vehicle costs and abilities first. I don't want to sound like I'm on a crusade or anything though.

Every conversation I have had with design team members has said that the allying across books with the I that we have now will be going, it's too much hassle with the way they update the books (apparently) and leads to issues with terminology (.. the infamous Russ "debate" being a prime example here). I think we would also see less emphasis on the Inquisition itself and more focus on the respective chambers militant for the respective factions.

I would say there's even a chance that we might see another codex, perhaps a xenos one next year as well... but.. that's a big "maybe" IMO. Not impossible though. Which would be good. Maybe even great perhaps.

Ogres are a very good bet for next year IMO.. be interesting to see what terminology makes it into that book and if this is further evidence towards an 8th edition next year or not.

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reds8n wrote:I think we would also see less emphasis on the Inquisition itself and more focus on the respective chambers militant for the respective factions.


*sigh*

So another of my armies vanishes off into the ether.

On the bright side though, maybe Deathwatch will finally get a whole list. I've already got that army, so I've pre-empted them.

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Every conversation I have had with design team members has said that the allying across books with the I that we have now will be going, it's too much hassle with the way they update the books (apparently) and leads to issues with terminology (.. the infamous Russ "debate" being a prime example here). I think we would also see less emphasis on the Inquisition itself and more focus on the respective chambers militant for the respective factions.

Logical and plausible. It also agrees with hints dropped by the studio. They've already made it clear they went a bit "Inquisitor Crazy" when the current Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters were designed because of the Inquisitor skirmish/RPG at the time and that later versions of those armies would be more about the armies.

The allies rules are also likely going to get the chop, at least in their current form, because as soon as the rule book or their allied Codex books get updated compatibility problems and obsolescence issues immediately arise. I'm sure the studio is tired of hearing complaints about that as much as customers are tired of dealing with it.

As for Dark Angels, I have a massive army now thanks to the last Codex and the great new plastics but I don't expect an update any time soon.

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reds8n wrote:I don't want to sound like I'm on a crusade or anything though.
Hmmm...



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Reds8n made a funneh! Hooray!

From the hints that have been floating around given by folk like Brimstone:
It seems that the mystery Chapter is either Blood Ravens or Black Templars, with a possibility of Dark Angels as a filler.

Not sure how true those could be, but eh. Blood Ravens just don't really seem unique enough, in my opinion, to merit their own Codex.
   
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BrassScorpion wrote:They've already made it clear they went a bit "Inquisitor Crazy" when the current Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters were designed because of the Inquisitor skirmish/RPG at the time and that later versions of those armies would be more about the armies.


Jervis' words were "got a bit carried away", which is insulting when you have an entire Inquisitorial army...

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
BrassScorpion wrote:They've already made it clear they went a bit "Inquisitor Crazy" when the current Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters were designed because of the Inquisitor skirmish/RPG at the time and that later versions of those armies would be more about the armies.


Jervis' words were "got a bit carried away", which is insulting when you have an entire Inquisitorial army...


I still maintain an Inquisitor HQ entry in the Guard codex would have been entirely appropriate, especially if it made Stormtroopers become a Troops choice.
   
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Ooh, a good old 2010 rumour mongering thread. I will be staggered if DE or Necrons don't put in an appearance next year. Beyond that, anything can happen but this is GW so it probably won't. We'll get Codex Black Templars instead (aren't they a fleet based chapter?)

   
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I'm not saying that that's a bad idea, I just like my Archo-Flagellents, my Daemonhosts, my Death Cultists and all the other crazy things I have that suck, but are fun to use.

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