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I found this an interesting read.

http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html?spref=fb

Strangely enough, I didn't get a black/white issue from that whole thing. Apart from the blog on Obama's Duaghter, that's just terrible. Instead I picked up more conservative/liberal issues here.

Really, I mean Really? They called it the Tea Party?

Am I the only one thinking the tea parties stances on... everything, are completely useless, and even if they did get their way, all other western countries would immediately stop kissing their asses, wise up, and let the USA rot?

Because if these fethers ever get the power they want, everyones gonna write the USA off as dead.

You mean we haven't already? (I kid, I kid)

What was that whole thing about anyway? Gun rights?

No taxes. They basically think obama is a complete socialist who wants to take money from them and give it to people who dont derserve it. They are mostly middle income middle aged.
Honestly i think obama has great goals in mind. I dont think people would mind as much if he wasnt moving so fast. people like change. just not ubrupt change.

Nah, you haven't (yes i'm still going to reply too that question). Or rather, politicians haven't. Most people I know write the USA off as a patch of land filled with morons.

Politicians here however seem very keen on kissing every square nanometre of your asses.

I agree with many of Obama's and Kevin Rudds policies, and I welcome their apparently strong 'broship'. I'll be voting for Rudd when I come of age in 10 months, Anna Bligh is a different matter.

It started out with opposition to taxes. Then to spending. Then to the healthcare bill? They keep moving. Gun rights aren't actually what it's about, they just sort of pop up randomly, like they do in a post made by Fateweaver.

Interesting article. However what I would ask is this: would this author, if faced with a similar reversal that reflected poorly on the way black people were acting in the real world, claim that the inverse of the situation is incomparable on account of black people being a minority, who have been discriminated against historically, and so forth? Because that's usually what I hear from those defending, say, scholarships being given only to black people.

Du-du-du-DOUBLE POAST!!!!

Best answer to racists: Our race was born on Africa, now shut it.

Soladrin wrote:Nah, you haven't (yes i'm still going to reply too that question). Or rather, politicians haven't. Most people I know write the USA off as a patch of land filled with morons.

Politicians here however seem very keen on kissing every square nanometre of your asses.

Most people here see europe as full of bucked teeth people who are uptight.. I my self know thats not true. You dont know america so why do you judge it?

I'm not saying I do that, but that's the general view of it. Though I do agree that it's a land of extremes, plenty of the bad kind. But yea, that's always the media's focus.

Oh.. and your all European too in a way, so that's kind of stupid. XD

Soladrin wrote:Oh.. and your all European too in a way, so that's kind of stupid. XD

Nah, we're African.

As Dakkas token blk super heart bleeding libral guy. If you want to see what the tea party would look like if it were black go to one of the crazy deep south churches. The bible twisted into "White people are the devil." or "The best thing god promised us is death." or Everything bad that happens to you is the devils fault."

Even thought the real issues were bad health, lack of education, and no jobs. All the while passing the collection plates every chance they get.

The sad thing is nobody bothered to read the bible themselves to make sure everything said was on the up and up. This is not slam against christianity as I belive in God (in some form or another).

That article raises a lot of good points. Is 'White Privilege' or whatever he called it as prevalent in Europe?

Soladrin wrote:I'm not saying I do that, but that's the general view of it. Though I do agree that it's a land of extremes, plenty of the bad kind. But yea, that's always the media's focus.

Oh.. and your all European too in a way, so that's kind of stupid. XD

So true.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:That article raises a lot of good points. Is 'White Privilege' or whatever he called it as prevalent in Europe?

Where do you think Neo-nazi's first sprouted?

And yes, because immigrants are a real problem, at least in my country. We have a guy trying to become the anti-mohammed or something (Geert Wilders, you might even have heard of this nutcase.)

I found the question it raised to be interesting.

If a large protest of angry black people carrying guns had been calling for Bush Jnr to die and republicans to be attacked and beaten, then I imagine that back in GeeDubz day, he'd have had the tear gas and water cannons out faster than you could say 'patriotism'...

And I imagine such a demonstration, if it were black people gathering in a similar manner, armed, would be heralded by Fox as the end times.

Gabe said...

Imagine leftists letting go of their race cards for just one second. What card would they play then? Tired rhetoric is tired.

I like this guys response.

I was under the impression that European racism had moved more towards an anti-Arab sort of paradigm. Though I suppose that may just be convenience masking what is really a pro-white, or nationalist agenda.

Soladrin wrote:

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:That article raises a lot of good points. Is 'White Privilege' or whatever he called it as prevalent in Europe?

Where do you think Neo-nazi's first sprouted?

And yes, because immigrants are a real problem, at least in my country. We have a guy trying to become the anti-mohammed or something (Geert Wilders, you might even have heard of this nutcase.)

I know who Geert is. A complete turd-face.

I agree with the article.

۞ Jack ۞ wrote:

Gabe said...

Imagine leftists letting go of their race cards for just one second. What card would they play then? Tired rhetoric is tired.

I like this guys response.

It would have been a good retort had the central focus of the article been criticism of the Tea Party.

As it stands, it was nothing more than a statement made by a person who saw the word 'race' and immediately assumed 'racist'.

dogma wrote:I was under the impression that European racism had moved back towards an anti-Arab sort of paradigm. Though I suppose that may just be convenience masking what is really a pro-white, or nationalist agenda.

Fixed it.

dogma wrote:I was under the impression that European racism had moved more towards an anti-Arab sort of paradigm. Though I suppose that may just be convenience masking what is really a pro-white, or nationalist agenda.

No, it's anti all non whites as it's always been. Arabian countries and such are just the main issue of the world at the moment, so it's only logical that they start focusing on that.

Im sorry Dogma, but after reading the 1st part of the OP in the link about swapping colour, then seeing how it turns out, i would imagine it does comes down to colour, hence a prod towards race issues.

However, i dont usually follow much to do with the US (dont really follow UK news either) so feel free to correct me if im wrong please.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I found the question it raised to be interesting.

If a large protest of angry black people carrying guns had been calling for Bush Jnr to die and republicans to be attacked and beaten, then I imagine that back in GeeDubz day, he'd have had the tear gas and water cannons out faster than you could say 'patriotism'...

And I imagine such a demonstration, if it were black people gathering in a similar manner, armed, would be heralded by Fox as the end times.

Immigration protests, many of them numberings in thousands, are generally ignored by the media. They also happen to be composed almost entirely of brown folk.

The author has made an interesting point, but I think he misses the mark in terms of gauging the difference in reaction. The issue isn't that white people are given the freedom to protest, where others are not. The issues is that we, via the media, seem to pay more attention to protests involving certain racial groups and, to some extent, certain issue areas.


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Marshal2Crusaders wrote:

dogma wrote:I was under the impression that European racism had moved back towards an anti-Arab sort of paradigm. Though I suppose that may just be convenience masking what is really a pro-white, or nationalist agenda.

Fixed it.

Turks aren't Arabs.


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۞ Jack ۞ wrote:Im sorry Dogma, but after reading the 1st part of the OP in the link about swapping colour, then seeing how it turns out, i would imagine it does comes down to colour, hence a prod towards race issues.

However, i dont usually follow much to do with the US (dont really follow UK news either) so feel free to correct me if im wrong please.

It was a comment on race issues. However, it wasn't a comment on race issues which was being used to discredit the Tea Party. Discussing race issues is not to play the race card. Playing the race card occurs when race is brought into an issue that is seemingly unrelated to race. An example would be stating that the Tea Party is only protesting Obama because he's not white.

Jack, it's not saying 'well if black people did it, it wouldn't be allowed because that's how racist the powers that be are', it's saying 'folks lining the streets with guns and talk of killing the president and overthrowing the elected government is a bad thing, yet we aren't stopping it, why the hell not'.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Jack, it's not saying 'well if black people did it, it wouldn't be allowed because that's how racist the powers that be are', it's saying 'folks lining the streets with guns and talk of killing the president and overthrowing the elected government is a bad thing, yet we aren't stopping it, why the hell not'.

Then you must have read something else as me...

Thanks Dogma and MGS, i really need to start reading more into OT threads and read the news once in a while.
Just tend to keep away from the rants of journo scum in the papers


Also MGS, how many presidents havent had death threats or near death experiences? XD
Comes as part of the job in my opinion.

WHy not, well Democrats don't have the back bone to stop a light breeze, Republicans don't care because either way they win, and Black folks who speak up get accused of using the race card.