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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:13:45
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ShumaGorath wrote:Fateweaver wrote:You don't have to come in here if you don't like it Shuma.
This thread was getting positive again with no fighting for like a dozen posts.
Stop spoiling the party. Drink a beer and eat a brat.
Which part? The part where nurglitch is calling you a neo nazi (incorrectly) or the part where you're calling liberals puppets? The parts where Orkeo subtly insults you repeatedly, the part where you simply stop responding to dogma because you were flat out wrong (but can't admit it), the parts where the dude with the brad pitt avatar just parots everything you say or the parts where ahtman tries to explain why people might get mad at you for wearing a white pride shirt?
Because I'm not seeing the good parts.
Already reported Nurglitch; Liberal puppet thing was over a dozen posts back; Orkeo is not insulting me, subtly or otherwise (not in the same vein you insult me); I'm not wrong, the best way to end an argument is to not keep it going; maybe I"m not the only one who thinks like I do but apparently my "parrot" can't think for himself; and I don't care WHY it might be misconstrued, the fact it'd be misconstrued in the first place is idiotic as Orkeo pointed out.
Now, you going to keep attacking me so I can report you too?
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“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:19:46
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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To be fair, Nurglitch did call you a neo-Nazi. But only in the nicest possible way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:24:38
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Did I? I didn't mean to, although I do find some of his opinions inconsistent.
And they are. Is it insulting to expose or discuss the flaws of another, even if they are meant to be analyzed objectively rather than be laid out subjectively as a case for or lack of merit? Already reported Nurglitch; Liberal puppet thing was over a dozen posts back;
It'd be A-okay for a liberal to wear a "White Pride" tshirt though.
That was more recent. Then I'll shoot into her eyes and blind her and make her eyelids stick shut. LOL.
That too. rkeo is not insulting me, subtly or otherwise (not in the same vein you insult me) Actually, depending on how you view what constitutes an insult it would be in the exact same vein. I'm not wrong, the best way to end an argument is to not keep it going You were wrong repeatedly on almost every count, the best way for you to think you've won an argument is to leave it. In fact it's seemingly the only way most of the time. He's responded to you again if you would like to take a go at it. Now, you going to keep attacking me so I can report you too? I toe the line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:24:50
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Jesus it smells like troll in here.
And leftists..
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:26:14
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An incorrect use of the term is still an attack.
I expected it from Shuma but I know Shuma has smarts enough to know even he can't put that label on me.
No Orkeo, I didn't take your comments as attacking me because you explained why you didn't think I was a neo-nazi.
Conservative redneck who is a gun-toter I can handle because it's true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:28:51
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Shadowbrand wrote:Jesus it smells like troll in here.
And leftists..
This I find bizzare considering at least the current discussion is really just the ruminations of whether or not fateweaver is a neo nazi (he probably isn't) and what his viewpoints are. We left the rather inflammatory original post behind a while ago.
I expected it from Shuma but I know Shuma has smarts enough to know even he can't put that label on me.
Because it's an incorrect label. There are other labels I would use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:34:10
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ShumaGorath wrote:Did I? I didn't mean to, although I do find some of his opinions inconsistent.
And they are. Is it insulting to expose or discuss the flaws of another, even if they are meant to be analyzed objectively rather than be laid out subjectively as a case for or lack of merit?
Already reported Nurglitch; Liberal puppet thing was over a dozen posts back;
It'd be A-okay for a liberal to wear a "White Pride" tshirt though.
That was more recent. Then I'll shoot into her eyes and blind her and make her eyelids stick shut. LOL.
That too.
rkeo is not insulting me, subtly or otherwise (not in the same vein you insult me)
Actually, depending on how you view what constitutes an insult it would be in the exact same vein.
I'm not wrong, the best way to end an argument is to not keep it going
You were wrong repeatedly on almost every count, the best way for you to think you've won an argument is to leave it. In fact it's seemingly the only way most of the time. He's responded to you again if you would like to take a go at it.
Now, you going to keep attacking me so I can report you too?
I toe the line.
Okay, so they were 8 posts prior to you barging in. Point was we were being civil again but you wouldn't be Shuma without raining on my parade. Gold Star.
The Essence of Fate thing is a joke. Get over it. Nothing to attack me over as I wasn't attacking anyone in particular.
I didn't view Orkeos comments as an attack. He laid out why I'm a conservative and not a neo-Nazi. Had I felt insulted he'd be reported too.
I didn't say I ended my argument with Dogma because I was RIGHT. I ended it because it will go around in circles for all eternity. I feel how I do because of what I believe in. That won't change and neither will his stance on things. He can't prove my feelings wrong about the Constitution. He can't prove my feelings wrong in my faith in God.
I think you mean "tow" the line but I'll let that slide.
I still wonder how the hell I got 7 days last Sunday and you are still allowed to post?
Seriously Shuma, this thread was getting nice again and you had to come in and rain on my parade. Not sure what your personal vendetta is against me but it's really quite old.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:35:21
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Just as one might call a mallard a duck, neo-nazi is a perfectly acceptable synonyn for fascist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:35:55
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Thank God I'm neither.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 06:47:04
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Okay, so they were 8 posts prior to you barging in. Point was we were being civil again but you wouldn't be Shuma without raining on my parade. Gold Star.
Civility is in the eye of the beholder that you just glued shut.
I didn't view Orkeos comments as an attack. He laid out why I'm a conservative and not a neo-Nazi. Had I felt insulted he'd be reported too.
You must hit that button like it's a tictac dispenser then.
I didn't say I ended my argument with Dogma because I was RIGHT. I ended it because it will go around in circles for all eternity. I feel how I do because of what I believe in. That won't change and neither will his stance on things. He can't prove my feelings wrong about the Constitution. He can't prove my feelings wrong in my faith in God.
No, but he wasn't trying to. He was basically just pointing out the fact that your arguments and beliefs are beholden to a mind boggling number of contradictions and that they don't seem to be based in objective reality. Feeling how you feel because it's how you feel is all well and good except insofar as it's a god-awful reason to believe something, and leaving arguments that you started with your beliefs because you can't support them doesn't do anything to keep you from being wrong.
I think you mean "tow" the line but I'll let that slide.
Oddly enough that phrase changes depending on where you're from. I've heard both and I honestly think toeing makes more sense. I mean theres the line, it's on the ground. When you're toeing it you're not really crossing it but your totally on top of it. Y'know, with your toes. When your towing it your just sort of pulling it around or something. That makes no sense.
I still wonder how the hell I got 7 days last Sunday and you are still allowed to post?
Because when you step back and look at things I'm right. I don't generalize as heavily or as often as you do, and I avoid breaking the rules as they have been laid out. When I say something that seems like it's inflammatory it's usually because you don't like what I'm saying. Not because it's not true.
Seriously Shuma, this thread was getting nice again and you had to come in and rain on my parade. Not sure what your personal vendetta is against me but it's really quite old.
It's not personal. I act the same way to everyone that posts ranty diatribes about liberals being (insert derogatory line here). You just do it all the time.
The thread never got good again, it never got back on topic, and it never found a topic. It just meandered for 12 short posts. Note how immediately after I posted 2 other people rained on your parade too. I didn't have anything to do with that.
Just as one might call a mallard a duck, neo-nazi is a perfectly acceptable synonyn for fascist.
I really don't think you know what that word means or implies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:02:44
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Seeing as the wiki is the gold standard for definitions around here, clearly a " Duck is the common name for a number of species in the Anatidae family of birds."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:03:00
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ShumaGorath wrote:Okay, so they were 8 posts prior to you barging in. Point was we were being civil again but you wouldn't be Shuma without raining on my parade. Gold Star.
Civility is in the eye of the beholder that you just glued shut.
I didn't view Orkeos comments as an attack. He laid out why I'm a conservative and not a neo-Nazi. Had I felt insulted he'd be reported too.
You must hit that button like it's a tictac dispenser then.
I didn't say I ended my argument with Dogma because I was RIGHT. I ended it because it will go around in circles for all eternity. I feel how I do because of what I believe in. That won't change and neither will his stance on things. He can't prove my feelings wrong about the Constitution. He can't prove my feelings wrong in my faith in God.
No, but he wasn't trying to. He was basically just pointing out the fact that your arguments and beliefs are beholden to a mind boggling number of contradictions and that they don't seem to be based in objective reality. Feeling how you feel because it's how you feel is all well and good except insofar as it's a god-awful reason to believe something, and leaving arguments that you started with your beliefs because you can't support them doesn't do anything to keep you from being wrong.
I think you mean "tow" the line but I'll let that slide.
Oddly enough that phrase changes depending on where you're from. I've heard both and I honestly think toeing makes more sense. I mean theres the line, it's on the ground. When you're toeing it you're not really crossing it but your totally on top of it. Y'know, with your toes. When your towing it your just sort of pulling it around or something. That makes no sense.
I still wonder how the hell I got 7 days last Sunday and you are still allowed to post?
Because when you step back and look at things I'm right. I don't generalize as heavily or as often as you do, and I avoid breaking the rules as they have been laid out. When I say something that seems like it's inflammatory it's usually because you don't like what I'm saying. Not because it's not true.
Seriously Shuma, this thread was getting nice again and you had to come in and rain on my parade. Not sure what your personal vendetta is against me but it's really quite old.
It's not personal. I act the same way to everyone that posts ranty diatribes about liberals being (insert derogatory line here). You just do it all the time.
The thread never got good again, it never got back on topic, and it never found a topic. It just meandered for 12 short posts. Note how immediately after I posted 2 other people rained on your parade too. I didn't have anything to do with that.
Just as one might call a mallard a duck, neo-nazi is a perfectly acceptable synonyn for fascist.
I really don't think you know what that word means or implies.
It was civil until you stepped in. If I hit the report like a tic- tac dispenser you would be on vacation too. Nurglitch is the first I've reported in months. I don't like vacations from dakka, even if it means a vacation from you and I find taking things into my own hands results in me getting vacations that I don't want to take; like being forced to get healthcare I don't want to get.
I attack liberals as often as you attack conservatives and tea partiers (especially tea partiers) as being racist, gun-toting uneducated rednecks. You don't like being called a pot-smoking hippy who wants a world wide round of kumbaya while PresO sits on his golden throne laughing in childish glee as his government takes away my guns than don't call me a gun-toting redneck who won't be happy until PresO is 6 feet under and this country is back in the hands of it's people.
You don't like being painted with broad strokes, neither do I. You also epically failed to prove your point by showing a picture of a Tea Party rally with NO Black people when there were clearly 2 black people in that pic and then saying Micheal Steele doesn't count? He doesn't count to you because he's not on your side.
Again, put this childish vendetta to rest. Maybe this thread wasn't getting on topic anytime soon but you sure as hell aren't helping it but it WAS getting civil. You just can't stand when people agree with me, can you Shuma?
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:13:38
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I attack liberals as often as you attack conservatives and tea partiers (especially tea partiers) as being racist, gun-toting uneducated rednecks. See, thats the thing. I call them idiots. I call them populists (idiots). I say that they are ill informed on almost every one of their principles (idiots) and I point out that the movement is largely aging, white, and conservative. I call them idiots all the time because the the gak they spew makes no sense and they have no idea why they believe it. The majority of them do not understand what the financial crisis was, what caused this recession, what is actually in the healthcare bill, and what government does and doesn't do. Other people have claimed they're racist, I've said that they clearly have racists in there (they clearly do). Other people have claimed that they gun nuts, I've claimed that the dudes that took assault rifles to obama rallies were tea partiers (several were), but I have stated multiple times that the right to bear arms isn't really a big thing with the tea parties. I don't think I've ever used the term redneck. You seem to use it a lot though. You don't like being called a pot-smoking hippy who wants a world wide round of kumbaya while PresO sits on his golden throne laughing in childish glee as his government takes away my guns than don't call me a gun-toting redneck who won't be happy until PresO is 6 feet under and this country is back in the hands of it's people. Cool. I'll just keep saying what I've been saying form the start. That you don't know gak, can't debate for gak. Have absolutely no idea why you believe what you believe, and attack people because it's all you can do. Considering you just spent several sentences claiming I've been saying things that I haven't in order to fuel your little conservative persecution complex I think it goes without saying. You don't like being painted with broad strokes, neither do I. You also epically failed to prove your point by showing a picture of a Tea Party rally with NO Black people when there were clearly 2 black people in that pic and then saying Micheal Steele doesn't count? He doesn't count to you because he's not on your side. Goodness gracious. You found one black dude. Surrounded by SEVERAL HUNDRED WHITE PEOPLE. One in ten people is black in this country. One in several hundred is black in the tea parties, I already said like 50 posts back that you can probably find some "token black dude" but that it's meaningless because statistically the teaparties are almost entirely dominated by conservative whites. It's still true. It will be true. It is true. Finding the magic black guy doesn't make the movement multicultural, it just means that you think it matters that you can find three black dudes in a picture with hundreds of people. Hint: it really doesn't. I dislike being painted with broad strokes because it's all you can do. If you could back up a single one of your opinions with facts in any of these many arguments we've had I wouldn't care so much. But you can't. Again, put this childish vendetta to rest. Maybe this thread wasn't getting on topic anytime soon but you sure as hell aren't helping it but it WAS getting civil. You just can't stand when people agree with me, can you Shuma? How is talking about blowing a load in a chicks eye civil?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:18:04
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The show goes on and on!
Do you guys ever stop giving?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:26:51
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ShumaGorath wrote:I attack liberals as often as you attack conservatives and tea partiers (especially tea partiers) as being racist, gun-toting uneducated rednecks.
See, thats the thing. I call them idiots. I call them populists (idiots). I say that they are ill informed on almost every one of their principles (idiots) and I point out that the movement is largely aging, white, and conservative. I call them idiots all the time because the the gak they spew makes no sense and they have no idea why they believe it. The majority of them do not understand what the financial crisis was, what caused this recession, what is actually in the healthcare bill, and what government does and doesn't do.
Other people have claimed they're racist, I've said that they clearly have racists in there (they clearly do). Other people have claimed that they gun nuts, I've claimed that the dudes that took assault rifles to obama rallies were tea partiers (several were), but I have stated multiple times that the right to bear arms isn't really a big thing with the tea parties. I don't think I've ever used the term redneck. You seem to use it a lot though.
You don't like being called a pot-smoking hippy who wants a world wide round of kumbaya while PresO sits on his golden throne laughing in childish glee as his government takes away my guns than don't call me a gun-toting redneck who won't be happy until PresO is 6 feet under and this country is back in the hands of it's people.
Cool. I'll just keep saying what I've been saying form the start. That you don't know gak, can't debate for gak. Have absolutely no idea why you believe what you believe, and attack people because it's all you can do. Considering you just spent several sentences claiming I've been saying things that I haven't in order to fuel your little conservative persecution complex I think it goes without saying.
You don't like being painted with broad strokes, neither do I. You also epically failed to prove your point by showing a picture of a Tea Party rally with NO Black people when there were clearly 2 black people in that pic and then saying Micheal Steele doesn't count? He doesn't count to you because he's not on your side.
Goodness gracious. You found one black dude. Surrounded by SEVERAL HUNDRED WHITE PEOPLE. One in ten people is black in this country. One in several hundred is black in the tea parties, I already said like 50 posts back that you can probably find some "token black dude" but that it's meaningless because statistically the teaparties are almost entirely dominated by conservative whites. It's still true. It will be true. It is true. Finding the magic black guy doesn't make the movement multicultural, it just means that you think it matters that you can find three black dudes in a picture with hundreds of people. Hint: it really doesn't. I dislike being painted with broad strokes because it's all you can do. If you could back up a single one of your opinions with facts in any of these many arguments we've had I wouldn't care so much. But you can't.
Again, put this childish vendetta to rest. Maybe this thread wasn't getting on topic anytime soon but you sure as hell aren't helping it but it WAS getting civil. You just can't stand when people agree with me, can you Shuma?
How is talking about blowing a load in a chicks eye civil?
Seriously drop it Shuma. You attack the right. Don't care how or with what verbage but you attack the right. Gold star.
I can point out many reasons for minorities being liberal but to point them out, regardless of the fact it's true, would be deemed racist and I don't want to stroke your epeen and give you more ammo.
You ever sat down face to face with a Tea Partier and had a polite convo or do you just go by what MSNBC and Jon Stewart have to say about Tea Partiers? I bet more are as educated, if not more educated about what's going on in this country and it's government then you are but go ahead and keep thinking they are all idiots. MSNBC told you to think that way.
The eye think was a joke that ended after 4 posts. Didn't like it you didn't have to fething read it now did you? You seem the type that would complain that X channel on tv shows porn 24/7 instead of just blocking it from the tv or flipping past it.
I know what I believe and why I believe it. I don't question your belief that Obama is our god and saviour so you have no room to question my belief in the Constitution and why I believe it shouldn't be messed with. You don't want to see the facts Shuma.
Seriously. Let it rest. Jesus H. Christ.
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I can point out many reasons for minorities being liberal but to point them out, regardless of the fact it's true, would be deemed racist and I don't want to stroke your epeen and give you more ammo. If it's true than it's not racist. You ever sat down face to face with a Tea Partier and had a polite convo or do you just go by what MSNBC and Jon Stewart have to say about Tea Partiers? I bet more are as educated, if not more educated about what's going on in this country and it's government then you are but go ahead and keep thinking they are all idiots. MSNBC told you to think that way. I have, but not at length. GG is a tea partier and definitly doesn't know more about than me about economics. Do you consider yourself to be a tea partier? Also I don't watch msnbc. I've now said this seven times to you. In seven different threads. The eye think was a joke that ended after 4 posts. Didn't like it you didn't have to fething read it now did you? You seem the type that would complain that X channel on tv shows porn 24/7 instead of just blocking it from the tv or flipping past it. HOW DO I KNOW TO SKIP OVER IT IF I HAVEN'T READ IT. I know what I believe and why I believe it. No you don't but I'm certain that you believe you do. Though I'm also certain that you don't understand why you believe that you believe what you think you understand. I don't question your belief that Obama is our god and saviour so you have no room to question my belief in the Constitution and why I believe it shouldn't be messed with. See? Thats the thing. I've never stated that. You're just making a half baked black and white argument and lying while doing so in order to cover up the fact that you don't know anything about politics, economics, geography, or psychology. You want to have opinions on these things, but it's too hard to actually learn about them so you just lie about what others are saying and then argue against things that they never said. Seriously. Let it rest. Jesus H. Christ. I will as soon as you either stop being belligerently wrong or stop posting here. One is more likely than the other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:45:32
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Can a mod please lock the thread.
I don't need to know economics to know that Obamacare is failcare. I don't need to be a geography expert to know that messing with the 2nd amendment is wrong (wtf does geography have to do with conservative views anyway)?. I don't need to know much about politics or psychology to know that the government, regardless of the administration, is becoming too big and too powerful; it's just that Obamanation has exacerbated the problem.
You tell me to get a world view of the other side of the fence. Do the same. You more or less admitted you haven't given a tea partier or any conservative the time of day needed to engage in conversation. I don't get my world view of the liberal side from tv. I have as many liberal friends as I do conservative friends, dated liberal women even. They aren't the nutjobs that I sometimes see in DNC rallies but if their "rational" beliefs mirror those of majority of the liberal party then I know that what you leftists believe is a load of bs.
But apparently I only know what liberals think because of what Rush and Glenn Beck tell me.
Hmm.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:49:50
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You totally derail the conversation for 4 pages and then call for the locking of this thread.
Fatweaver, you're piteous and contemptible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:52:27
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I didn't derail it for 4 pages ty. I derailed it for like 4 posts having to do with sperm in some girls eye.
Learn2count MGS.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 07:53:03
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I don't need to know economics to know that Obamacare is failcare.
Yes. Yes you do.
I don't need to be a geography expert to know that messing with the 2nd amendment is wrong (wtf does geography have to do with conservative views anyway)?.
No, but it's important when you're attempting to talk about iran, north korea, or really any foreign policy topic.
I don't need to know much about politics or psychology to know that the government, regardless of the administration, is becoming too big and too powerful; it's just that Obamanation has exacerbated the problem.
How can you know that political administrations are becoming to big and powerful if you don't know anything about politics. Seriously. How did you just type that? How did the fingers on your hands hit the keys in that order without it sending a red flag to your brain.
You tell me to get a world view of the other side of the fence.
No, I'm just telling you to stop posting when you don't know what you're talking about. I don't ask my six year old niece about healthcare or politics, and thats because she doesn't know anything about it. This is a similar situation.
Do the same.
That would require I experience a severe concussion.
You more or less admitted you haven't given a tea partier or any conservative the time of day needed to engage in conversation.
I have, but not at length.
Read the posts you quote.
I don't get my world view of the liberal side from tv.
I know. You make it up.
I have as many liberal friends as I do conservative friends, dated liberal women even.
Yes, none of us live in bubbles.
They aren't the nutjobs that I sometimes see in DNC rallies but if their "rational" beliefs mirror those of majority of the liberal party then I know that what you leftists believe is a load of bs.
Not really. You don't know that. You believe that. You just stated you don't need to know any of the fields that you're discussing, including politics. And you certainly don't know them. The issue here is though that you seem to think your opinion is as valid as other peoples despite that fact. It is not.
But apparently I only know what liberals think because of what Rush and Glenn Beck tell me.
Children think that heavy things fall faster. No one taught them it, but they piece it together. I'm sure you've done something similar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 08:04:51
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ShumaGorath wrote:I don't need to know economics to know that Obamacare is failcare.
Yes. Yes you do.
I don't need to be a geography expert to know that messing with the 2nd amendment is wrong (wtf does geography have to do with conservative views anyway)?.
No, but it's important when you're attempting to talk about iran, north korea, or really any foreign policy topic.
I don't need to know much about politics or psychology to know that the government, regardless of the administration, is becoming too big and too powerful; it's just that Obamanation has exacerbated the problem.
How can you know that political administrations are becoming to big and powerful if you don't know anything about politics. Seriously. How did you just type that? How did the fingers on your hands hit the keys in that order without it sending a red flag to your brain.
You tell me to get a world view of the other side of the fence.
No, I'm just telling you to stop posting when you don't know what you're talking about. I don't ask my six year old niece about healthcare or politics, and thats because she doesn't know anything about it. This is a similar situation.
Do the same.
That would require I experience a severe concussion.
You more or less admitted you haven't given a tea partier or any conservative the time of day needed to engage in conversation.
I have, but not at length.
Read the posts you quote.
I don't get my world view of the liberal side from tv.
I know. You make it up.
I have as many liberal friends as I do conservative friends, dated liberal women even.
Yes, none of us live in bubbles.
They aren't the nutjobs that I sometimes see in DNC rallies but if their "rational" beliefs mirror those of majority of the liberal party then I know that what you leftists believe is a load of bs.
Not really. You don't know that. You believe that. You just stated you don't need to know any of the fields that you're discussing, including politics. And you certainly don't know them. The issue here is though that you seem to think your opinion is as valid as other peoples despite that fact. It is not.
But apparently I only know what liberals think because of what Rush and Glenn Beck tell me.
Children think that heavy things fall faster. No one taught them it, but they piece it together. I'm sure you've done something similar.
Thank God I know where on map Iran and the Koreas are but knowing geography is irrelevant to thinking we should turn them, Iran especially, into a glass bowl.
Obamacare is failcare because it forces me to do something I may not want to do. If Obamacare gave me the option to not buy health insurance without penalty then it wouldn't be failcare.
You also can't claim to know all Tea Partiers are idiots. You believe they are all idiots but you don't know that. Idiot is also relative. A Tea Partier less educated than you about economics might seem like an idiot when dealing with economics but he might be able to fine tune a race car with just his ears whereas you'd need a machine. Who's the idiot in that scenario?
I don't listen to Glenn Beck or Rush, therefore I cannot equate what they say about liberals to liberalism. One of the girls I dated was a campaign organizer for Senator Paul Wellstone (D) here in Mn. I would think that her views of how the world should be weren't much different than the view of the majority of liberals during that time, in fact her stance has mostly remain unchanged and mirrors the views of most of my other liberal friends so therefore I equate her views and those of my other liberal friends to the views of all liberals, just as you equate the nutjob conservatives with all conservatives and tea partiers. But once again I only get my facts about liberals from Glenn or Rush so therefore I am uneducated.
This song and dance has just about ended.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 08:12:01
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Thank God I know where on map Iran and the Koreas are but knowing geography is irrelevant to thinking we should turn them, Iran especially, into a glass bowl. Nope! Thats a politics thing! Something you don't think you need to know! I mean gosh, it would sure be terrible to expect you to know the histories and event surrounding the countries you want to kill everyone inside of. Obamacare is failcare because it forces me to do something I may not want to do. If Obamacare gave me the option to not buy health insurance without penalty then it wouldn't be failcare. Of course it would, you would find a different fault with it. You also can't claim to know all Tea Partiers are idiots. You believe they are all idiots but you don't know that. Idiot is also relative. Don't hurt yourself there slick. A Tea Partier less educated than you about economics might seem like an idiot when dealing with economics but he might be able to fine tune a race car with just his ears whereas you'd need a machine. Who's the idiot in that scenario? The tea partier. The tea party movement isn't about race cars. I don't listen to Glenn Beck or Rush, therefore I cannot equate what they say about liberals to liberalism. One of the girls I dated was a campaign organizer for Senator Paul Wellstone (D) here in Mn. I would think that her views of how the world should be weren't much different than the view of liberals years ago, in fact her stance has mostly remain unchanged. But once again I only get my facts about liberals from Glenn or Rush so therefore I am uneducated. No, you're uneducated because you're uneducated. You don't know anything. I don't give a gak where you get your info from. No one does. The issue is that all the "information" you have is wrong. This song and dance has just about ended. It has. I'm going to bed. If anyone wants to tag in they're welcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 08:18:08
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So a woman in charge of a liberals campaign is misinformed compared to you?
Now that is classic and yet somehow totally expected from you.
Gold star.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/27 17:33:27
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Fateweaver wrote:So a woman in charge of a liberals campaign is misinformed compared to you? Now that is classic and yet somehow totally expected from you. Gold star. Not talking about her, talking about you. You are not her. You are not her. You are not her. I'm talking about you. You are not her. Your knowledge is not her knowledge. I am not talking to her. I am talking to you. You are who I am talking about. We are discussing what you know, not what she knew. You are not her. You are not her. You are not her. You are not her. I NEVER SAID YOU WERE HER, AND I NEVER EVEN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HER. Anyway, bed time for me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 08:27:02
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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But you attacked me saying I'm misinformed about liberal views.
Don't you think at some point during our 2 year fling we would have talked politics, that I would have been exposed to her viewpoints?
Just saying. Try to read your own posts before replying to me, mmmmmmmmkay?
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/04/26 08:46:28
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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*golf claps*
..that's actually a new record of alerts for a single thread.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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