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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:20:18
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Seriously, why? Can't people just learn to like each other? This is the 21st century, we live in an integrated society with every race imaginable, but people can't talk to their neighbors because they're black/latino/asian/middle eastern? It's sickening how traditional people actually are. I used to think that every generation was getting slightly less racist as they went along, but that's just an illusion. People are probably getting more racist now that they have to share jobs, stores and restaurants with other people.
I'm not saying any of you are racist, nor am I racist, But I've been around racists. These aren't 4chan racists saying the "n-word" just because it sounds cool to them, these are people who would rather see others killed before they share a restaurant with a group of people. It's disturbing.
Maybe I just overestimate people. Maybe people really are not capable of tolerance.
Incidentally,4chan is what got me angry with racism. I doubt many of those people on 4chan are actually racist, but it's still rather disturbing to see so many disgusting people in one place. God I hate 4chan...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:25:51
Subject: Re:Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Stoic Grail Knight
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This thread will go places....
Ill admit im probably pretty racist towards a specific race...
Find me a hard working, tax-paying person from Texas who isnt, and ill show you a liar.
Not saying i want to see them dead... Thats an entirely different form of racism.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:26:16
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I think there is an argument to made for genetics. We're hard wired to pass on our genes, or failing that, the genes of somebody related to us. Based on our lizard brains, we see people of the same race as similar looking, so I think it's possible that we assume they're genetically close (spoiler alert: probably not).
Politics (and racism is an extreme form of politics) is the art of distributing finite resources. People don't want other groups sharing their resources.
Finally, you're most virulent racists, as a very general rule, tend to be on the lower end of the socio economic scale. Racism is a way of feeling better about yourself. Now, most of the worst discrimination is performed by the powerful, but that's usually less out of hate filled racism and more due to economic racism.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:27:14
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Ruthless Rafkin
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Why does racism exist? Fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:34:06
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Basic economics. Cheese is controlled by THE MAN. Not like peanut butter, which is controlled by THE PEOPLE.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:39:47
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Because black people are inferior
Err, because people are bastards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 16:49:01
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Because hardcore racists are fething funny.
And, everyone has laughed at a racist joke, why? Because their jokes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:13:00
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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Due to the cognitive psychological mechanism of Categorisation, humans have an innate tendency to form groups and will do so based on completely arbitrary divisions. Skin colour gives an obvious, though totally superficial, point of difference, so it is not surprising that humans form groups based on that.
The development of racism as a theory of superiority -- usually be whites over others -- developed historically due to the accident that European nations developed advanced technology first, and used it to conquer most of the rest of the world. Racism provided a convenient reason and excuse for this behaviour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:15:38
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Why is it usually white over others? Thats a misnomer. Its usually "us" vs. "them."
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:15:45
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The population is made of people, and people have predjudices against people that are different.
Also,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:23:50
Subject: Re:Why does racism even exist anymore?
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ShivanAngel wrote:This thread will go places....
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You'll all please note the 3 MOD line already.
Standard reminder about forum rules and ways to behave. Ta.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:50:29
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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Because perceived differences and arbitrary coincidences are applied as negative generalizations. Because our culture sets us up for different races/sexes to generally act a certain way. Loop those two sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 17:56:46
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I believe racism was invented by Frazzled so people can dither away their differences in trivial arguments about "which color is the best" and "what color is faster," meanwhile all this time Frazzled's army of weiner dogs have patiently been preparing for their secret invasion, slated for the most unsuspecting of all days: Dachsund Day (First Saturday of October).
Be prepared.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 18:04:53
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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WarOne wrote:I believe racism was invented by Frazzled so people can dither away their differences in trivial arguments about "which color is the best" and "what color is faster," meanwhile all this time Frazzled's army of weiner dogs have patiently been preparing for their secret invasion, slated for the most unsuspecting of all days: Dachsund Day (First Saturday of October).
Be prepared.
I am sorry to announce the disappearance of Warone. I've been informed he disappeared just a few minutes ago.
There's no truth to rumor that a van pulled up while he was walking and 200 wiener dogs threw a net over him and dragged him into the van. Any footage on youtube supposedly showing this is of course a fabrication by the CIA.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 18:05:59
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Stoic Grail Knight
Houston, Texas
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Frazzled wrote:WarOne wrote:I believe racism was invented by Frazzled so people can dither away their differences in trivial arguments about "which color is the best" and "what color is faster," meanwhile all this time Frazzled's army of weiner dogs have patiently been preparing for their secret invasion, slated for the most unsuspecting of all days: Dachsund Day (First Saturday of October).
Be prepared.
I am sorry to announce the disappearance of Warone. I've been informed he disappeared just a few minutes ago.
There's no truth to rumor that a van pulled up while he was walking and 200 wiener dogs threw a net over him and dragged him into the van. Any footage on youtube supposedly showing this is of course a fabrication by the CIA.
But i found a finger?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 18:08:38
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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Kilkrazy wrote:Due to the cognitive psychological mechanism of Categorisation, humans have an innate tendency to form groups and will do so based on completely arbitrary divisions. Skin colour gives an obvious, though totally superficial, point of difference, so it is not surprising that humans form groups based on that.
The development of racism as a theory of superiority -- usually be whites over others -- developed historically due to the accident that European nations developed advanced technology first, and used it to conquer most of the rest of the world. Racism provided a convenient reason and excuse for this behaviour.
I agree with this for the most part but I'd like to point out that Asia developed very early but, unlike Europeans, did not decide to go on a worldwide conquering tour. Why? Probably because of their environment. The more inhospitable the environment the more violent the natives. Vikings are a clear example of this.
As far as racism in the modern age goes... there will always be idiots. At least until we develop a reliable way to test intelligence levels and begin purging or confining those of us that are lacking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 18:28:49
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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ShivanAngel wrote:Frazzled wrote:WarOne wrote:I believe racism was invented by Frazzled so people can dither away their differences in trivial arguments about "which color is the best" and "what color is faster," meanwhile all this time Frazzled's army of weiner dogs have patiently been preparing for their secret invasion, slated for the most unsuspecting of all days: Dachsund Day (First Saturday of October).
Be prepared.
I am sorry to announce the disappearance of Warone. I've been informed he disappeared just a few minutes ago.
There's no truth to rumor that a van pulled up while he was walking and 200 wiener dogs threw a net over him and dragged him into the van. Any footage on youtube supposedly showing this is of course a fabrication by the CIA.
But i found a finger?!
THATS NOT A FINGER! Automatically Appended Next Post: dreadlord wrote:I agree with this for the most part but I'd like to point out that Asia developed very early but, unlike Europeans, did not decide to go on a worldwide conquering tour. Why? Probably because of their environment. The more inhospitable the environment the more violent the natives. Vikings are a clear example of this.
As far as racism in the modern age goes... there will always be idiots. At least until we develop a reliable way to test intelligence levels and begin purging or confining those of us that are lacking.
Wait, what?
Huns ring a bell?
Mongols refresh your recollection?
Tamerlame tickle your fancy?
Turks spark up the brain?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 18:31:34
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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dreadlord wrote:Kilkrazy wrote:Due to the cognitive psychological mechanism of Categorisation, humans have an innate tendency to form groups and will do so based on completely arbitrary divisions. Skin colour gives an obvious, though totally superficial, point of difference, so it is not surprising that humans form groups based on that. The development of racism as a theory of superiority -- usually be whites over others -- developed historically due to the accident that European nations developed advanced technology first, and used it to conquer most of the rest of the world. Racism provided a convenient reason and excuse for this behaviour.
I agree with this for the most part but I'd like to point out that Asia developed very early but, unlike Europeans, did not decide to go on a worldwide conquering tour. Why? Probably because of their environment. The more inhospitable the environment the more violent the natives. Vikings are a clear example of this. As far as racism in the modern age goes... there will always be idiots. At least until we develop a reliable way to test intelligence levels and begin purging or confining those of us that are lacking. Actual archaeological evidence suggests that development can be patterned from easy travel outward from the fertile crescent. Asia didn't develop more quickly than the west, however it did develop differently in the millenium BCE and afterward (different is a relative term though, all civilizations developed differently from one another). African and mideastern civilizations arose and fell before the advent of recorded history and respectable civilizations existed before the traditionally asian portion of the continent was heavily inhabited. Harsher climates do not directly lead to a more agressive or violent civilization and for most of their history (and most of their population at all times regardless) the vikings were peaceful agrarian farmers. The vikings arose long after countless bloody civilizations rose and fell in the fertile crescent, africa, south america, and asia. Racism exists because humans are not creatures of logic and knowledge of genetics and evolutionary history, human psychology, and biology are rare. Actual understanding of the science underpinning racial differences is the best way to combat racism, a creed of tolerance will only truly gain traction when it has some backing in either a scientific, experiential or spiritual sense. Also this thread is going places.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:13:10
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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dreadlord wrote: Asia developed very early but, unlike Europeans, did not decide to go on a worldwide conquering tour. Why? Probably because of their environment. The more inhospitable the environment the more violent the natives. Vikings are a clear example of this.
Works until you realise Europe is probably one of the most hospitable places on earth. In terms of it's water, climate, fertyile land, wildlife etc etc. Asia, less so.
The reason why, has more to do with Europe's naval technology. Not because Europeans have a unique natural taste for conquering other nations, that's evident in every race.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:31:34
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Frazzled wrote:Why is it usually white over others? Thats a misnomer. Its usually "us" vs. "them."
I explained that in my previous post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:37:30
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Its not correct though.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:42:34
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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The whole "this is the 21st century" argument i think is dumb. Why were we doing this it 200 years ago? because people learn. If you parent is a rascist even slightly your grow up thinking it is not bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:45:06
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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whatwhat wrote:dreadlord wrote: Asia developed very early but, unlike Europeans, did not decide to go on a worldwide conquering tour. Why? Probably because of their environment. The more inhospitable the environment the more violent the natives. Vikings are a clear example of this. Works until you realise Europe is probably one of the most hospitable places on earth. In terms of it's water, climate, fertyile land, wildlife etc etc. Asia, less so. The reason why, has more to do with Europe's naval technology. Not because Europeans have a unique natural taste for conquering other nations, that's evident in every race. Actually, just about the only real reason is the consolidation of technological superiority combined with maritime capability. When you can't expand by conquering your neighbors you expand by going somewhere else. Europe was hardly the birthplace of agressive nationbuilding and colonialism is simply the logical step foreward enabled by advanced naval astronomy and existent fleets of boats that are worthy of the open ocean. There are examples of vassal states and empire building over long distances in the east such as the mongol or persian empires. Rome was famous for this long before galleons were sailing around the world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:47:07
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Yes. That's what I said. Europe conquered the world because of it's Naval technology. And I also said there was nothing unique about Europe's taste to do so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:48:10
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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whatwhat wrote:Yes. That's what I said. Europe conquered the world because of it's Naval technology. And I also said there was nothing unique about Europe's taste to do so.
Ahh, sorry, I misinterpreted that for some reason. My bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:48:30
Subject: Why does racism even exist anymore?
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https://health.google.com/health/ref/Williams+syndrome http://scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2010/04/children_with_williams_syndrome_dont_form_racial_stereotypes.php WILLIAMS Syndrome (WS) is a rare neurodevelopmental disorder caused by the deletion of about 28 genes from the long arm of chromosome 7. It is characterized by mild to moderate mental retardation and "elfin" facial features. Most strikingly, individuals with WS exhibit highly gregarious social behaviour: they approach strangers readily and indiscriminately, behaving as if everybody were their friend. And, according to a study published today in the journal Current Biology, they are the only known group of individuals who do not form racial stereotypes. People with Williams Syndrome have no social fear. They also display no racial biases. Racism is a fear of the "other", a thing different than you. Racism = "fear". Mankind will always fear the unknown. The question remains: Are you man enough to conquer your fear of the unknown? You should be, because ethnic food is delicious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:49:43
Subject: Re:Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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I think untill South Park's theory of the future happens. Their will be racism. Atleast it's not as bad as it used to be.
We won't count the fighting in the mideast, in my statement. Just because their was ALWAYS fighting there.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:52:09
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Shadowbrand wrote:I think untill South Park's theory of the future happens. Their will be racism. Atleast it's not as bad as it used to be.
We won't count the fighting in the mideast, in my statement. Just because their was ALWAYS fighting there.
One could argue that the fighting in the mid-east is a struggle over scant resources inflamed by ethnic tension.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 19:54:28
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Perhaps, I just said we won't count that since their was ALWAYS fighting there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/07/16 20:19:17
Subject: Re:Why does racism even exist anymore?
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Shadowbrand wrote:Perhaps, I just said we won't count that since their was ALWAYS fighting there.
In the grim darkness of the 2nd millennium there is only war. Besieged on all sides by infidels and Americans the Middle-east has stood as the cradle of civilization. Ruled by the ageless
Osama Bin Laden, a hundred men are sacrificed daily to keep the oil running. Numberless armies, governed by careless warlords to whom a couple hundred dead men is but a small price to
pay. Weapons of mass destruction, nuclear missiles, are the final defense to the encroaching darkness. The silent Taliban, protecting the Muslim world from heresy with in, and without.
Forget the promise of progress and understanding. Such things are lost, never to be relearned. Only an eternity of endless war await you here, and the Laughter of a thirsting god.
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