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I've looked at lots of forums and posts and i came to the conclusion that at least 90% of the people here hate rap. And i just want to know... why?

We don't hate rap. We just don't think it's real music.

No, seriously, it's relatively easy to laugh at those pseudo rappers we get today. Can't flow properly and or get on the stage without help due to all the bling.

I only like comedy rap. In my opinion any other rap besides comedy rap is c-rap

I don't hate rape, I just don't actively go out and buy rap music, apart from a couple of artists, but I can appreciate the skill taken to actually perform the rapping, and to write the music; if you listen to quite a lot of modern rap songs without the lyrics, the instrumental music is often very good.

Its not a "hate" issue.
Its just not what I enjoy.
I can apprieciate it, though like all music there is some real trash out there. I do think that as a style it has gotten some bad press and a lot of the negatives associated with it are the things that some artists feel they 'need' to be considered 'legit'.
One element I dislike about Rap is the near constant need of some artists to reference themselves. To me, it shows a lack of imagination to repeat your 'name' in your recordings. Doesnt happen in Rock You don't hear Ozzy's name repeated in pretty much any of his songs but you know who is singing.

Rap is
Retards
Attempting
Poetry

But seriously they aren't even singing they're just rhyming; even andre the giant can do that:

Cos it's gakk?

only kidding of course.
Like everything else it has been hijacked and pummeled into pap to be spoonfed to the mewling masses.

And there is no reason for me to want to listen to it. I don't really want to see or hear some guy doing weird things with his hands festooned in gold chains and bangin' on aba' him bee'in' ap on him bitches an' dem guns an' fing!

And I wish to see some poncy pretty white boyband doing a watered down version of same even less.

And those guys would propably top themselves if people like me was digging their scene man.

I dont hate rap, Just the modern crap, and I am also not restricted to rap alone, hell, my favourite bands are Coheed, Led zeppelin, the doors and probably Thorogood.
Take Inspectah Deck for example, RZA, Method Man, ODB, Sunz Of Man, all great, hell, I got respect for pretty much anybody in WU.
so, I guess im in your 10% that likes old school stuff.
also, lets band together against the common enemy, COUNTRY MUSIC!!!!

Oh yea screw country music!

Its not as much hate, but in general a really strong dislike for moderm rap music.

I do like the more raw stuff from the early nineties mind. So maybe for me, its more of a case of not liking what its evolved into.

I can't stand the constant shoveling of that genre into every facet of life. That, the lack of imagination and the mysoginy of it. It just seems like most of thyese "rappers" are incredibly insecure.

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVqVwGWocM

I hate 90% of rap with a burning passion...

But I hate 90% of every genre.
I'm predominantly into my metal (which I would say is the second most common preference on any warhammer forum, after "eclectic"), but I still dislike the (huge volume of) mediocre/overly repetative/unimaginative metal. Y'know, most of it.

Now, a somewhat TL;DR question, but has anyone brought up the difference between rap and hip-hop? It's actually quite noteable when you listen long enough.

I like a good amount of rap and I'm better than the vast majority of this forum.

Personally, I don't enjoy FotM bands (if you call them that), or generational music. By generational I mean, what does this current generation listen to? What did my generation listen to? what did you dad's generation grow up to?

But Then again I'm a techno/electronica fan

Is Hammertime oldschool rap?

I think the only real rapper I have heard and liked is Ludacris, and that's because of the statements, not the music.

Its not that i dont like rap , its i dont like what most bands rap about.

bi*ches and ho*
gangsta
guns
killing people


Right....

LunaHound wrote:bi*ches and ho*
gangsta

That too. I mean, couldn't they think of something ELSE to rap about?

Although I really want to go cruising down Main Street done up in bling, tilted hat, blaring White and Nerdy in the car

Slarg232 wrote:Is Hammertime oldschool rap?

Quoted for justice.

Slarg232 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:bi*ches and ho*
gangsta

That too. I mean, couldn't they think of something ELSE to rap about?

Although I really want to go cruising down Main Street done up in bling, tilted hat, blaring White and Nerdy in the car

We need to have an artist that raps about:

Tolerance
Sympathy
Hard working society
Respecting each other
Been faithful instead of promiscuity

LunaHound wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:bi*ches and ho*
gangsta

That too. I mean, couldn't they think of something ELSE to rap about?

Although I really want to go cruising down Main Street done up in bling, tilted hat, blaring White and Nerdy in the car

We need to have an artist that raps about:

Tolerance
Sympathy
Hard working society
Respecting each other
Been faithful instead of promiscuity

Those exist, you just don't like rap so you don't bother to look.

I wouldn't go that far, just something thats further than:

"You mess with me yo dead,
You mess with me yo dead,
I got yer sista in mah bed."

would be nice.

Slarg232 wrote:I wouldn't go that far, just something thats further than:

"You mess with me yo dead,
You mess with me yo dead,
I got yer sista in mah bed."

would be nice.

Go back to listening to Justin Beiber, it's clear you can't actually find music.

The difference between Rap and Hip Hop, from what I understand, is that Hip Hop isn't a genre, its a cultural movement. Rap is the Genre that came with the movement. Look it up sometime, its rather interesting.

ShumaGorath wrote:Those exist, you just don't like rap so you don't bother to look.

Nope , i listen to them on radio not much of a choice.

I like rap but only southside rap like dj screw and other members of S.U.C

Snikkyd wrote:The difference between Rap and Hip Hop, from what I understand, is that Hip Hop isn't a genre, its a cultural movement. Rap is the Genre that came with the movement. Look it up sometime, its rather interesting.

That's pretty much what I heard, but I'd also heard that hip-hop was also a more literal musical enterpretation of the movement, and "rap" in the current vernacular is another divergent sub-genre (being one of the main two). "Rap" being different from "rapping" in this instance.

I could be totally wrong though, I know next to nothing on the subject tbh.

I dislike most "modern" music that I hear, especially over produced stuff, whcih in my mind rap generally falls under
(Also my main problem with rap is the: "Gonna shoot yo right in yo face wif my bling bling boom and bend over yo ho while yo bleed on yo wheels den go do some sweet dope and wear mah munny threads" school of rap, rather than the actual act of rapping.)

That said, despite disliking alot of music, I do respect some of the artists, can't think of any rappers that fall into this category though.

I also like alot of stuff, and my music collection is...esoteric at best (Nothing like Frank Sinatra being followed by Iron Maiden to confuse the brain pan)

I tnink one of the most innovative Rappers out right now is Mizfit Tha Menace, Gothic/horror based rap that is lyricly and rhythmicly better than some of what passes for popular rap that is out now.
Warning if you look him up.... not safe for work..

ShumaGorath wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I wouldn't go that far, just something thats further than:

"You mess with me yo dead,
You mess with me yo dead,
I got yer sista in mah bed."

would be nice.

Go back to listening to Justin Beiber, it's clear you can't actually find music.

You have a godlike ego, you know that? I mean, whatever gods exist must be jealous of your ego.




I can find music, BEEEEEYOTCH!