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There is a lot of good rap.













Just to list a few.

Reynolds wrap and Saran wrap come to mind.

Of the "music"....................

Reminds me of one of those old Tarzan movies where they sneak up to the edge of the village at night and wonder why the natives are so restless.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I consider hip-hop to be the most innovative genre of music at this moment in time; followed closely by electronic funk.

General bias towards the genre.

Though I'd be lying if I said I didn't listen to it. Certain artists aren't bad.

I only hate modern rap, and the image they seem to like so much.

It's on the same level as Hardcore(Don't know if this actually is the same kind of music in america, but it can be replicated by putting bricks in a tumble dryer) as far as music go's.

Soladrin wrote:I only hate modern rap, and the image they seem to like so much.

Then you might like this.

Really, your suggesting something as well known as Run DMC? XD

Oh, and country is awesome, I'm gonna start learning to play Banjoo soon :3 BECAUSE I CAN!

Fusion is good. I like US 3(US cubed) and there is a newer group called the Flobots that had an interesting album titled "Fight with Tools"(Ignore the pop hit handlebars and instead listen to the whole album).

Soladrin wrote:Really, your suggesting something as well known as Run DMC? XD

I'm operating under the assumption that no one here pays attention to hip-hop, but that's only based on the first page.

Slarg232 wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I wouldn't go that far, just something thats further than:

"You mess with me yo dead,
You mess with me yo dead,
I got yer sista in mah bed."

would be nice.

Go back to listening to Justin Beiber, it's clear you can't actually find music.

You have a godlike ego, you know that? I mean, whatever gods exist must be jealous of your ego.




I can find music, BEEEEEYOTCH!

Congratulations on being able to find an 18 year old song by one of the most well known musicians in history (ozzy). And yes, all fear my glorious ego.

Is your ego big enough to pop with a needle? Otherwise I'm not impressed.

LunaHound wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Those exist, you just don't like rap so you don't bother to look.

Nope , i listen to them on radio not much of a choice.

Ahh, yeah you should stop that. You have a computer so you clearly have other options.

Radio at work disagrees with your statement.

One of my current favourite bands is Kora, from here in NZ. The heart of the band is several brothers, all with very different musical tastes.
One's a rocker/metalhead, ones into dub and reggae, the other rap and hip-hop. Thier music is great and they do amazing live shows. Doesn't sound like you'd expect at all (rap/rock generally don't mix) but if you can find any myspace or youtube videos of them that aren't pants quality you'll see what I mean.

I'd look for the songs Shankenstein, Politician, The Delivery Man, Time, Flow and DEFINATELY the song Crazy Things. On My Mind is one of their more rap-like songs.

Seriously, this band is AMAZING.


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AHA! Listen. Do it!!!
http://www.myspace.com/koraroots

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It isn't rap though, so I guess it's ot.

My favorite album. I can listen it a dozen times and still enjoy it. Not a fan of all of the songs on it, but Del is definitely in my top 5 hip-hop artists.




I will add, I have never been a huge fan of spoken word, and I feel that it works MUCH better when used on it's own. If there is singing and not singing, rap is spoken word.

I like trip-hop, there is some really good stuff out there. A bunch of my old friends really burned it out for me though, I just got sick of hip-hop in general a while ago, but I'll listen to certain stuff occasionally. Being around nothing but hip-hop starts to annoy me after a few days at this point.




Rock the feth on.

I think this is pretty funky fresh. I can't get enough of this kind of stuff. I can pass on a lot of the more popular mainstream artists though, although even some of them have a decent song every now and then.

i hate it becuase of it violence and being demeaning to women. I prefer real songs like manowar's hail and kill and pleasure slave. That is wholesome family music right there.

I get tired of hearing multiple songs in a row on the radio all about the same thing (drugs, women, guns, money) all back to back. I like a lot of rap, but most of the new stuff is just tiring and too simple. There's no complex verses and everything seems to be written just for the chorus as dance music. Crank That by soulja boy is a great example of how poor quality rap music is recently. Is it even about anything? Rap songs about life, growing up, being in high school, working, and even to a small extent the aforementioned drugs, relationships, money, and violence is ok, but stacking a whole song on a single premise is just boring to listen to. I won't deny rap touches on those first four subjects I mentioned but in moderation and told as a part of life or the rapper's life it's fine. When the song turns into a big glorification of drug use or something similar then it loses all it's substance.

All that being said I do like a few party jams, but overall I like substance in the verses and not a minimal verse just to get by until another dance-centric chorus come around. Rappers I listen to are Tech N9ne, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, 50 Cent, D12, Immortal Technique, Xzibit, Tupac, Jay-Z, La Coka Nostra, and Ludacris. Rappers that I don't like are Lil Wayne, Akon, Soulja Boy, Lil John, and a handful of others.

Here's a few links to songs that break-away a bit (don't expect something completely different) from the stigma..

Show Me a God by Tech N9ne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=900ScDcIHvE

99 Problems by Jay-Z (radio-friendly version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etl9kkIGaHo

Gangsta's Paradise by Coolio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK6H_CcuX8

Cousin of Death by La Coka Nostra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCM-Pn3K7bQ



I like a lot of music, and I do like some of the party rap that's upbeat and about hitting up a club and dancing, but when that's all their music is it's value is lost. Can a rapper do that and still have songs with worthwhile content, yes, but not enough rappers do it.

I really like a lot of Missy Elliot's work, I think she is a highly capable talent. Older Busta Ryhmes and WTC are also sometimes enjoyed.

I also have a guilty secret liking for some of Lady Sov's stuff.

I really like a lot of Missy Elliot's work

Me too MGS

Daniel Deronda wasn't so good imho, but Mill on the Floss and Middlemarch are excellent.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Congratulations on being able to find an 18 year old song by one of the most well known musicians in history (ozzy). And yes, all fear my glorious ego.

Actually, for one who loves to get his facts 100% correct, your wrong, that songs by Lita, not Ozzy. Don't worry, researching is hard for me, too.

Why I hate rap? Because its just filled with donkey caves who only talk about guns, drugs and murder. I do not have the ability to take that kinda lyrics seriously.

I don't hate rap. I just hate bad rap.
Eminem, 50 Cent, Jay Z, Snoop Dog(g?) all have songs I like.

The rap most other people seem to like nowadays is just (c)rap.

MUSIC SNOBBERY FTW!!!

Now then.

If bands such as Limp Bizkit or Rage Against The Machine (had their albums before the recent hype) count as rap then I like rap. I don't like the fact that most of it is about killing any neigh-sayers. Oh and mostly a british thing but I also hate it because chavs like it

If its any consolation, i may hate rappers of nowadays, but the sugar hill gang is the shiz!

Hollywood Undead is a good band to listen to for rap rock, way better then Limp Bizkit, and on the same level as RATM.
NOTE: Contains profanity.

My guess:

It's a class thing. It is no secret that wargames are expensive. In order to participate in these sorts of hobbies, you have to have a certain income level, and you're probably either a working adult, or a kid in a middle-to-upper class family.

Rap, and to a lesser extent, country, is largely based around lower-class/lower-income situations. The reality portrayed in most rap songs is not one I can even remotely associate with. I'm not 'f--k the police' or 'busting caps' in people, I go to work, do a job, collect a paycheck, and actually don't mind the police being around.

(Likewise, I've never lost my woman over a bar-bet or had my pickup repossessed. I don't get county music either, it's just low-rent rural instead of low-rent urban).

I have, however, been somewhat educated. When some random metal band sings about Odin, I know who that guy was. There is some amount of overlap in the themes you see in war-gaming and metal, hence if you took a poll of wargamers, you'd probably find more metalheads than anything else. (Reading concert shirts at wargaming events, this seems to hold true too.)

Just where we come from really.

VikingScott wrote:Oh and mostly a british thing but I also hate it because chavs like it

You must be down south. Up north chavs seem to like happy hardcore and speed garage (or bassline I believe they call it now).



As for Hip Hop, I like it. But it died about seven years ago. US hip hop in particular hasn't done anything new besides implement vocoders into almost every single record released at the moment. Nowadays the most attention it gets is when rap stars 'cameo' in rnb songs, which is too often.

Yeah I've heard of them before. Not a fan.
But tbh I was trying to be positive and say that i like certain variations on rap as presented by Limp Bizkit or RATM.
My favourite band is 36 Crazyfists.


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whatwhat wrote:

VikingScott wrote:Oh and mostly a british thing but I also hate it because chavs like it

You must be down south. Up north chavs seem to like happy hardcore and speed garage (or bassline I believe they call it now).

Yeah I'm from Wiltshire. Chavs are a menace round here. My town could have a lot done of good work done to it, were I given a flamethrower and set lose in certain areas.

I know alot about rap as well, embarrasingly i liked it when i was at school, you know, cos it was "cool"

Maybe you grow out of it?

I remember when i was 14 i thought Snoops first album was great, Ice T used to be pretty awesome, i liked Doctor Dre, Ice Cube, Tupac.. all that gak.

Nas, i remember his as well, only the single was decent though, i recall hearing the album and it sucked.

And now i think rap is absolute garbage.

Does your taste change as you get older or is all this new stuff just generally gak? I have no interest at all in rap music these days. Either im old and boring or rap has gotten alot worse.

Or both.