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So, this is the next army I'm thinking of doing. Chaos Sisters of Battle allied with some Slannesh daemons, and I've got a pretty good army. Problem is how. I'm not the best with conversions or modifications, so converting Sisters of Battle to chaos isn't going to be easy for me, but thats why I came here. Any ideas, suggestions, comments, concerns, duffel bags full of twenty dollar bills, etc... will be greatly appreciated.

They are metal models and iirc they come in about 2 peices. So a conversion based on them would be rather difficult IMO. Also, alot of the sisters of battle minis are beginning to be pulled from shelves and the online store. Many people expect them to get a new codex soon along with new sisters modes (That or they are going the way of the space dwarves imo).
So I say wait a while to do the army. Or do it without those damed metal sisters.
You might get flamed for having female space marines or having chaos sisters of battle. (Atm I assume you are using the chaos codex. If you use the sisters codex....... shame on you sir.)

Aside from the fact that it's completely unfluffy? I suggest using e-bay, because GW has had an aneurysm and decided to not sell the ten model box anymore and therefor it will take upwards of sixty bucks to get a single squad from GW (without any special weapons).

You could do what I did when I built my Sisters army and just order them individually. They were 4 bucks a piece either way. Then you could order lots of Veterans if you wanted to model pistol/cc weapons. You can order bitz packs of chaos backpacks that you could scatter throughout your squads. Otherwise, the basic models will be really tough to alter as they are single piece casts. Changing bolters, etc. would be terribly labor-intensive.

The plan was to use the CSM codex, just the sisters of battle models.

Exactly. I was just trying to assist you with using the models. I like it; especially the Slaaneshi theme.

Meh. If you're really going the route, Khornate Sisters would work better. What with the despising of psychic powers, the focus on martial prowess and etc.

Slaaneshi Sisters will just make you look like a perverted loser.

I gotta agree with Melissia on this one. While it may not have been your intent, I don't think an order of Sisters who fall to Chaos are going to fall into Slaanesh's camp. Khorne, prolly. Nurgle, maybe. Although I do see them going with Slaanesh more than Tzeentch. Honestly, if they are supposed to have 'just' converted, then take NORMAL Sisters, then scar and deface all the Imperial iconography (since they haven't had time to get 'real' Chaos uniforms yet...) and add some Chaos oriented grafitti. Also, spikes and rusty blades. That should do it.

Hey Spider, try to ignore the hate. I cannot remember a single positive post from her. Some members go out of their way to be contentious. It is your army idea. The cooler you make it, the better it looks, the more props you will receive. My CSM are all loyalist marines with chaos bitz and their Imperial livery crossed out in red. I have an Emporer's Champ as chaos lord, GK termies as oblits, and a leman russ, heavily converted, into a defiler. No one has ever told me the army looks bad. Some cry out in anguish to see their beloved squads as assorted CSM's. Death Company jump troops as Raptors makes some BA players weep. It's all in good, clean, wholesome fun. When all is said and done it was your time and money. You might as well enjoy it to the full!

Numbered this post in order to respond without multiple quotes.

Brettila wrote:1: try to ignore the hate.
2: I cannot remember a single positive post from her.
3: It is your army idea. The cooler you make it, the better it looks, the more props you will receive.

1: There is no hate, there is only someone making an ignorant, borderline trolling statement (that would be you).

2: Because you are too lazy to actually read my posts? I stated "this is unfluffy" and then gave suggestions on how the person might obtain models for the use of their army. Obviously I am not discouraging them from doing so, if I am stating what I think the best way for them to obtain models for use in their idea is. But then that would be a logical conclusion, and I do not expect that out of you.

3: That is untrue. Try making a female marine army of any kind, be it loyalist or chaos-- you'll get harshly bashed for it no matter how good the models are. Hell even if you use the same models and just call it a female marine army (maybe with occasional head swaps for models that don't wear a helmet). Even if you just write a bit of fluff up for it, expect people to insult you about it and get their tighty whities up in a twist and then leave in a hissy fit.

edit: Why yes, I am speaking from personal experience, as well as having seen it happen about a dozen times, all rather consistently.

epil wrote:Many people expect them to get a new codex soon along with new sisters modes.

Yeah, but I was expecting the same thing seven years ago. I'm still waiting for GW to release a plastic Sisters sprue.

It's your hobby bro, you should do whatever conversion you want, expecially at the price models cost nowdays. Personally I've never seen any sort of fluff/model predjudace in the gaming clubs I've been to. Maybe that's because the hobby is more laid back and social down here. The social environment of one country/city/town/suburb can be very different to another so its very hard to make a comment on how the army will be received without knowing how your gaming club rolls. If you know that they are cool with the idea, there's nothing holding you back, besides maybe the internetz apparently.

At the end of the day, take anything the internetz told you with a grain of salt. We're all faceless sources of text at the end of the day.

Brettila wrote:Hey Spider, try to ignore the hate. I cannot remember a single positive post from her. Some members go out of their way to be contentious.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that she is always negative. Suffice to say she is slightly confrontational. I would definitely consider her mostly argumentative. That doesn't necessarily carry the negative connotations either.



On topic though, SoB gone Chaos sounds just awesome for some reason. Couldn't hurt to try Black Legion.

Melissia wrote:Meh. If you're really going the route, Khornate Sisters would work better. What with the despising of psychic powers, the focus on martial prowess and etc.

Slaaneshi Sisters will just make you look like a perverted loser.

No, not completely. There have been Slaaneshi sisters ( either corrupted or actually possessed, i am not certain ) in the Daemonifuge comic / graphic novel.
They actually looked pretty good and had non of the somewhat boring striperific aspects which are so common when it comes to Slaanesh.

I've got a squad of "count as" chaos sisters in a traitor guard army. Basis for the models are dark elves - you get 6 female toros in the box IIRC - and it's not too difficult to convert the cross-bow armed ones into carrying bolters.

If you can find the old metal witch elves they can work as well - but avoid the current range as they can't really get away with a 3+ save whereas the plate and chain armour worn by the originals is good enough.

In one of the Cain novels there were some sister fighting for chaos - as a result of s psychic attack

Actually if you play Slaanesh at all you risk being teased as a 'pervert', and that's fine, that's why one plays that faction isn't it? Hee hee!

I read on the Lexicanum website that while the Game background says only one sister ever fell to Chaos, the books and comics contradict this and has some following Slaanesh. I have never read the fiction, so I don't know. But I don't really trust the fiction, I understand they also claim 'Sisters of Battle do not take oaths of Chastity' which is pretty sad if true given their medieval and fanatic zealotry akin to the most intense Catholic Saints of old. Anyways, it's your army, what matters most is whether your friends will accept what you are doing.

If you're going to depart from the fluff, you could try using non-GW models too. With the addition of 40K backpacks and weaponry, medieval torsos and legs can look a lot like power armor, especially for Chaos. Find some female knights or paladins and go for broke with GW chaos bits and stuff is my advice.

But it's a pity, if only you had been faithful and true to the one and true God Emperor
--- Frankie

Petite Francois wrote:But I don't really trust the fiction, I understand they also claim 'Sisters of Battle do not take oaths of Chastity' which is pretty sad if true given their medieval and fanatic zealotry akin to the most intense Catholic Saints of old.

I'd argue this is a good thing, there's no real reason to make that connection except inertia. The Catholic Church might care about such things, but I imagine the Ecclesiarchy would focus more on the importance of rooting out heresy, turning in psykers and supporting the war effort.

AlexHolker wrote:

Petite Francois wrote:But I don't really trust the fiction, I understand they also claim 'Sisters of Battle do not take oaths of Chastity' which is pretty sad if true given their medieval and fanatic zealotry akin to the most intense Catholic Saints of old.

I'd argue this is a good thing, there's no real reason to make that connection except inertia. The Catholic Church might care about such things, but I imagine the Ecclesiarchy would focus more on the importance of rooting out heresy, turning in psykers and supporting the war effort.

Respectfully I disagree. First there is the whole 'Space Nun' aura they are borrowing from. Having fornicating space nuns makes about as much sense as peaceful Orks or pacifist space marines. I would be curious how many people who actually play the Sisters would prefer them as chaste and pure rather than, well...typical...unremarkable... Then there's the Joan of Arc similarities, and she is well known for her chastity. Why borrow from fantasy and history if you're going to undue the very things that make them special?

Then there are the redemptionists, who, while they are not part of the ecclesiarchy, demonstrate that ultra conservatives of the time react to promiscuity with horror.

Then there is the historical shame of having been the sexual playthings of Vandire during the age of apostasy, which I would imagine would cause some kind of reaction to the collective psyches of the modern day sisters.

But most of all, there is the mystical power of sublimating the sex drive. Being beholden in mind, spiirit and body to no one but the God Emperor. With such intense devotion and single minded loyalty, sexual relations and their intimate link to romantic attachment is only a potential distraction and a danger.

But again, I am reading a lot into the Sisters that may not be there. It's fine My sisters do practice abstinence, yours may not, and it's all well and good at the end of the day

Petite Francois wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

Petite Francois wrote:But I don't really trust the fiction, I understand they also claim 'Sisters of Battle do not take oaths of Chastity' which is pretty sad if true given their medieval and fanatic zealotry akin to the most intense Catholic Saints of old.

I'd argue this is a good thing, there's no real reason to make that connection except inertia. The Catholic Church might care about such things, but I imagine the Ecclesiarchy would focus more on the importance of rooting out heresy, turning in psykers and supporting the war effort.

Respectfully I disagree. First there is the whole 'Space Nun' aura they are borrowing from. Having fornicating space nuns makes about as much sense as peaceful Orks or pacifist space marines. I would be curious how many people who actually play the Sisters would prefer them as chaste and pure rather than, well...typical...unremarkable... Then there's the Joan of Arc similarities, and she is well known for her chastity. Why borrow from fantasy and history if you're going to undue the very things that make them special?

Then there are the redemptionists, who, while they are not part of the ecclesiarchy, demonstrate that ultra conservatives of the time react to promiscuity with horror.

Then there is the historical shame of having been the sexual playthings of Vandire during the age of apostasy, which I would imagine would cause some kind of reaction to the collective psyches of the modern day sisters.

But most of all, there is the mystical power of sublimating the sex drive. Being beholden in mind, spiirit and body to no one but the God Emperor. With such intense devotion and single minded loyalty, sexual relations and their intimate link to romantic attachment is only a potential distraction and a danger.

But again, I am reading a lot into the Sisters that may not be there. It's fine My sisters do practice abstinence, yours may not, and it's all well and good at the end of the day

And my sisters (only 6 at the min but will be reinforced when plastic) will be sharing rooms with marines and be slow and perposeful

I joke, but yeah I just assumed abstinance came with the space nuns.

If you want to do Slaanesh then may I suggest the Mistress from the Sisters Repentia as a Sorceress (using Lash of Slaanesh of course). The other Sisters Repentia make good beserkers.

Petite Francois wrote:Respectfully I disagree. First there is the whole 'Space Nun' aura they are borrowing from. Having fornicating space nuns makes about as much sense as peaceful Orks or pacifist space marines. I would be curious how many people who actually play the Sisters would prefer them as chaste and pure rather than, well...typical...unremarkable... Then there's the Joan of Arc similarities, and she is well known for her chastity. Why borrow from fantasy and history if you're going to undue the very things that make them special?

Joan of Arc was also a hero and a patriot who maintained her faith despite the betrayal of the church. That's what made her special, not whether or not she was celibate.

Then there are the redemptionists, who, while they are not part of the ecclesiarchy, demonstrate that ultra conservatives of the time react to promiscuity with horror.

The Redemption is a lynch mob with better equipment. I would not assume anything about the mainstream belief based on their hang-ups.

Then there is the historical shame of having been the sexual playthings of Vandire during the age of apostasy, which I would imagine would cause some kind of reaction to the collective psyches of the modern day sisters.

I'm willing to accept that, but I'd think the reaction would be more likely to be hatred of those that abuse power, not misaimed prohibitions of consensual, loving relationships.

But most of all, there is the mystical power of sublimating the sex drive. Being beholden in mind, spiirit and body to no one but the God Emperor. With such intense devotion and single minded loyalty, sexual relations and their intimate link to romantic attachment is only a potential distraction and a danger.

Here we can agree. Where we differ is whether that abstinence would be written into oath or simply a (extremely common) personal choice.

KingDeath wrote:No, not completely. There have been Slaaneshi sisters ( either corrupted or actually possessed, i am not certain ) in the Daemonifuge comic / graphic novel.

Daemonifuge is non-canon as far as I'm concerned. I despise that... thing.

And yes, Sisters do not have to take vows of celibacy. However, Sisters live lives of self-denial, charity, and discipline which make the most professional modern soldier look like a civilian in comparison. The lot of a Sister is not to enjoy her life, but to serve and venerate the Immortal Emperor... and destroy his enemies.

Khornate Sisters of Battle make far, far more sense than any of the other chaos gods. It is still going against the fluff, but if you really want to do it, that would be the most believable way.

Sounds dumb to have them aligned with Slanneshi daemons. Monsters obsessed with pleasure would in all likelyhood, rape any women they see. It's not that far off. Slaaneshimarines would be even worse.

It might be better to either wait until there's some news about new sisters models, or if that doesn't happen, scratch build them out of eldar or something. I think converting the metal models is out of the question. Way to difficult. even changing their heads is an all day affair.

Slaanesh is not just god of pleasure, but of excess in general.

And Sisters could be gradually lead off the path into chaos. One of the Grey Knights books has some Sisters (along with IG) tricked into working for chaos by a fallen inquisitor by trying to stop a force of Grey Knights from stopping a deamon being summoned.

Someone using them in this way could eventually corrupt them to the ways of chaos. Though I agree with Melissa that the blood god might be the easiest route.

Though Nurgle is also an option - they may turn to him if their world is/they are suitably infected and their faith in the Emp ebbs.

I am always 100% in favor of an idea that flies in the face of what a faction is "supposed" to be.

Fluff be damned. Write your own. Make it good, though, write bad fluff and I will mock you relentlessly for it.

Regarding suggestions of other ruinous powers than Slaanesh, I agree with Melissia in that Khorne makes more sense from a point of view - Sisters are all about discipline and martial skill, not sadism. Khorne despises torture and other methods of prolonged suffering - anything of the sort simply empowers his rival, Slaanesh. Sisters would probably find Khorne, the god of duty as well as death, to be more to their liking.

That said, I point you towards the second sentence I wrote in this post. Fluff be damned. If you want Slaaneshi Sisters, by all means, make Slaaneshi Sisters.

I also agree with the points regarding simply buying Sisters, defacing their Imperial iconography, and adding some Chaosy bits. Spikes and skulls, that sort of thing. The paint job is also important, it has to scream "Chaos." But that's the easy part.

My only real recommendation is to buy a load of GS. You'll need it.

Sisters of Slaanesh
I've seen it done by more than a handful of people, very interesting convertions are possible.

I encourage imagination really, it's rewarding and fun.
So yea, ignore the nay-sayers. It is your hobby, time, and money. Do what you want to do with it.

As for Khornate Sisters....they only have blood frenzy that certain time of the month................yea, I wouldn't suggest Khornate Sisters.

To Alex Holker: For me, it was that St. Joan of Arc heard the voices of the Angels and Saints, and was faithful unto death to God that made her special. I agree that her virginity, while admirable, was not unique or her greatest achievement.

Hope you all have wonderful weekends, and great gaming!
--- Frankie

Melissia wrote:

KingDeath wrote:No, not completely. There have been Slaaneshi sisters ( either corrupted or actually possessed, i am not certain ) in the Daemonifuge comic / graphic novel.

Daemonifuge is non-canon as far as I'm concerned. I despise that... thing.

How very... selective of you!

Especially in a thread about Chaos Sisters of Battle!

Because as we know, nobody should ever DARE say anything about the beloved Sisters of Battle, even in a thread supposedly about Chaos Sisters of Battle, aside from glowing reviews, nerdgasms, and love letters.

As was previously mentioned - your army, go for it, and it actually DOES seem possible, at least in GW's mind...

I was personally under the impression that No Sister of Battle has fallen to the influence of Chaos. (mark this as Sister of Battle. Not member of the Inquisition). I am probably mistaken on it.

Eitherway, Making a Sleezenesh Sister of Battle does make you look like a pervert Loser imho. Like this guy I know making an entirely Naked Dark Eldar Wych force. Yeah you can do it, but why. You just seem sad.


And honestly, I think I would laugh in your face if you brought that to a table I Was at. I really would. Not saying you couldnt make the Models Look awesome. But, come on man. Enact your Nun fantasies out elsewhere.

Though it is YOUR choice in the end, I'd be interested in seeing a Nurgle Chaos Sisters army.

Sleezenesh SoBs is just...sleazy, and Khorne Sisters have been done a few times (At least, in my area. I've seen at least 3 Khorne CSM armies with converted Sisters).

Tzeentch doesn't really seems suited for the Sisters view...
Sorry, but JUST AS PLANNED doesn't really fit the Space-Nuns.