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I've been a lucky player and never had GW write off one of my armies. Then again, Guard, Marines, Orks and the like are all pretty dependable, and have always been popular. But what about the Genestealer cults, Squats, Dogs of War, Lost and the Damned, and other armies that have been effectively taken out of the game? What do you folks do with them? Do you, like a friend of mine, still play with their army lists and lovingly converted models? Or do you just say screw it and pack the models up, to spend the rest of eternity in a box in the attic? Or do you just run them under a new codex as a counts-as solution?

I've always been curious, and hopefully I'll never know the frustration that this sort of thing brings. Share your armies! (and of course, pictures would be awesome )

My Lost and the Damned have been restructured into a Traitor IG army. Didn't hurt that I never really had many CSM units(those in it were already pulling double duty from the CSM army, anyway) in it or Mutants(only a unit of 30 Zombies, and they found their way into my friend's VC).

My Cult of Slaanesh got turned into a Daemon Army and a DE army.

Basically, losing them as armies got me to spend more money.


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I've been had!

I have a friend who uses squiggoths as battlewagons now that the feral list is illegal.

He really liked the Black Orks models he converted for mad boyz so he ended up doing his entire 4e army with those models.

He spent a ton of monies doing that.

Hmm, a theme?

I rebel and start making armies that never even had rules to begin with. I've got AdMech and Deathwatch so far.

Chaos Dwarves are alive and well with a new book (PDF) that was produced last year from the people who run the grand tournaments. I'll look for a link later.


Link: http://issuu.com/mattbird/docs/f_dwarfs_of_chaos

Mothball them and eventually scavenge them for parts.

I have squats.

Not having a specific book for them has never stopped me from using them?

I suppose it depends on how much you stick to the GW HHHobby? (am I using that right KK?)

I had genestealer cult AND LLATD.

Thanks for opening up old wouns, I had almost forgotten...

Here is what i did: I sold them off and made a vow to never do a non-core 40K army again.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I rebel and start making armies that never even had rules to begin with. I've got AdMech and Deathwatch so far.

I expect Deathwatch to actually be revised into a full army at some point. If GW does it half as well as FFG's been laying it out, you'll be in good hands

I just look at them in the cabinet with a tear in my eye.

Between myself and my dad we bought Chaos Dwarves and Dogs of War. What a pair of suckers.

Kanluwen wrote:
I expect Deathwatch to actually be revised into a full army at some point.

I hope they manage it before I end up in a nursing home...

I've never lost an entire army but my Iron Warriors basilisk has spent the majority of the last few years in a drawer.

Kymera wrote:I've never lost an entire army but my Iron Warriors basilisk has spent the majority of the last few years in a drawer.

And good riddance to it. :shakes his head:

I play WE. Does that count? Also my 4e Marine Army. "The Brotherhood of Steel" hasn't seen action since it was 27 and 2 in 4e. There were alot of Apothicary Sgts...

Kymera wrote:I've never lost an entire army but my Iron Warriors basilisk has spent the majority of the last few years in a drawer.

I don't know if you realize it but you can now again use a basilisk with chaos-y marines via the Tyrant's legion in the Imperial Armour IX Badab War book that came out in October. Granted, the army is best done as a mix of guard and marines but you can technically field all marines and still use basilisks.

I use my Squats as Guardsmen or Veterans. I've pretty much mothballed my two IG officers in favor of Erik the Squat leading my army to victory.

Nagashek wrote:

Kymera wrote:I've never lost an entire army but my Iron Warriors basilisk has spent the majority of the last few years in a drawer.

And good riddance to it. :shakes his head:

I play WE. Does that count? Also my 4e Marine Army. "The Brotherhood of Steel" hasn't seen action since it was 27 and 2 in 4e. There were alot of Apothicary Sgts...

Well, you could use those Apothecary sergeants as sanguinary priests if you ran as Blood Angels; you could do a pretty conservative counts-as.

I don't see Deathwatch getting their own army; there's not really enough to them. Aside from Marine kill teams, I don't know what else they'd actually do.

I also can't believe people would just scavenge their old armies for parts; I don't understand why folks wouldn't keep using old rulebooks in friendly games. If any of my armies were no longer tourney legal from GW, you bet your ass I'd still play them.

Brother SRM wrote:

Nagashek wrote:

Kymera wrote:I've never lost an entire army but my Iron Warriors basilisk has spent the majority of the last few years in a drawer.

And good riddance to it. :shakes his head:

I play WE. Does that count? Also my 4e Marine Army. "The Brotherhood of Steel" hasn't seen action since it was 27 and 2 in 4e. There were alot of Apothicary Sgts...

Well, you could use those Apothecary sergeants as sanguinary priests if you ran as Blood Angels; you could do a pretty conservative counts-as.

I don't see Deathwatch getting their own army; there's not really enough to them. Aside from Marine kill teams, I don't know what else they'd actually do.

I also can't believe people would just scavenge their old armies for parts; I don't understand why folks wouldn't keep using old rulebooks in friendly games. If any of my armies were no longer tourney legal from GW, you bet your ass I'd still play them.

they're also still a legal force if your opponent doesn't mind forgeworld and you count them as red scorpions (or whatever the chapter is with apothecary tact sergeants in the badab war book).

Speaking as a "back to 1st ed" player, all I can say is: NEVER SELL ANYTHING!

Keep it. Put it in a box and let it age, like chedder. Wait for a new codex/edition/strat to emerge. This may take years. But when it finally does happen, the built up psychic dice energy of the unit will unleash in a storm of 6's!

Well after 6 or 7 years of dragging them around I finally binned the Canadian Stock Troopers.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/322995.page

Thankfully my L&D army never got off the ground.

My CSM army got split after Chaos turned into two separate books (fielding a Bloodthirster just doesnt feel right when he footslogs, and Bloodletters without Power weapons are just not Bloodletters). Then I found out how poorly Daemon (especially Khorne, ironically) plays in annhilation (due to the fact that my opponent always got a "free" shot at me), so they all got rebased and turned into a Fantasy Daemons Army (My soulgrinder wipes his tears with his many cobwebs). My CSM army, who weren't that good before loosing the Daemons, largely have been fractured into 4 cult armies, with Death Guard being currently the only one in fighting condition.

I recommend forging all those squatted armies into great and heavy chains, massing them into great heavy links and then wrapping them about Tom Kirby before hefting him off the end of the pier...
As a message to GW...

Tonight Don Kirby sleeps with the pan fo.

I like to make them into awesome "Armies On Parade" dioramas to be displayed in my local GW.

Kilkrazy wrote:I like to make them into awesome "Armies On Parade" dioramas to be displayed in my local GW.

lol, i think that is the best choice EVAR! you could even make the diorama look like a giant milk carton with a picture of your old codex and "have you seen this army's rules?" above it.

Always amuses me when people bring up armies that have been gone for over a decade. My first suggestion would be to get over it and stop crying about it years later.

My second suggestion would be to use a different list and enjoy all the hard work you put into collecting and painting them.

Squats - use them as guard.
Chaos Dwarves - use them as dwarves or even chaos warriors
Lost and the Damned - use them as guard
Genestealer cult - hmmm you guys actually are pretty fethed but I guess you could use them as just a normal Tyranid list.

Or even better get together with some good friends who will let you just use the old list. It really isn't that hard.

Lists are only "illegal" in tournaments - in fact I look forward to making some "illegal" lists for fun and routinely play against them even when training for tournaments!

brettz123 wrote:Always amuses me when people bring up armies that have been gone for over a decade. My first suggestion would be to get over it and stop crying about it years later.

Certainly, those people should do just that, immediately after you send them the money they spend on the army they suddenly found no further support on from the company they bought the expensive miniatures from.

Or you could just hush your inflammatory commenting mouth.

Write my own rules, and play with my friends ( as long as they are ok with my rules)

brettz123 wrote:Genestealer cult - hmmm you guys actually are pretty fethed but I guess you could use them as just a normal Tyranid list.

I vaguely recall seeing an army around not so long ago where they had tailored them a little to use as an ork army.

Expanding them out a little and using them as a Guard or 'counts as' Tau Army and a Nid army would work in an Apocalypse game.

For that matter, you could possibly do something reasonable with Tau, using Fire Warrior stats for Cultists, and Kroot for Genestealers.

I've never had it happen to an army.

'Course, I didn't decide to play IW 4 heavy support/Basilisk spam, Lotd, squats (spits!), GC.

I've only ever played a core SM army (call it vanilla, Ultramarines, whatever). Sure, some options vanish (and sometimes they come back), but mostly, my 2nd SM is a playable 5th ed SM army. Same for my Eldar.

Sure, some units are no longer around. These lie unmourned and forgotten in a pre-melt box (this is where metal miniatures go to die. Once all the useful bits have been salvaged, they go into the crucible and are melted down.)

warboss wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I like to make them into awesome "Armies On Parade" dioramas to be displayed in my local GW.

lol, i think that is the best choice EVAR! you could even make the diorama look like a giant milk carton with a picture of your old codex and "have you seen this army's rules?" above it.

That milk carton idea is so done! Best idea I heard all day, congratulations.