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2011/02/21 19:52:01
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/02/21 20:06:17
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
"Freedom of speech, that's some mother******* bs."
As an American said on Radio 4's Question Time at the weekend, human rights are never so important as when we are looking at people we hate and despise.
Vile, hateful bigots though Westboro clearly are, they have the right to express their views and Anonymous do not have the right to shut down their scummy websites.
Although it is much easier to destroy than to build, I would ask Anonymous to do something constructive about the Westboro situation. For example, issue a call to arms to get supporters of the armed forces, gays and so on to turn up to funerals and block out the Westboro hags.
Kilkrazy wrote:"Freedom of speech, that's some mother******* bs."
As an American said on Radio 4's Question Time at the weekend, human rights are never so important as when we are looking at people we hate and despise.
Vile, hateful bigots though Westboro clearly are, they have the right to express their views and Anonymous do not have the right to shut down their scummy websites.
Although it is much easier to destroy than to build, I would ask Anonymous to do something constructive about the Westboro situation. For example, issue a call to arms to get supporters of the armed forces, gays and so on to turn up to funerals and block out the Westboro hags.
These bikers have the right idea.
I'm all for freedom of speech.
However, freedom of speech apparently doesn't apply if I have a cussword on my t-shirt, according to some coppers. It shouldn't apply for people actively trying to disrupt a military funeral with hateful signs and speeches.
2011/02/21 20:14:30
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Dunno, I thought their peaceful protests against Scientology was a great way to do this.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:21:09
Subject: Re:Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Kilkrazy wrote:"Freedom of speech, that's some mother******* bs."
As an American said on Radio 4's Question Time at the weekend, human rights are never so important as when we are looking at people we hate and despise.
Vile, hateful bigots though Westboro clearly are, they have the right to express their views and Anonymous do not have the right to shut down their scummy websites.
Although it is much easier to destroy than to build, I would ask Anonymous to do something constructive about the Westboro situation. For example, issue a call to arms to get supporters of the armed forces, gays and so on to turn up to funerals and block out the Westboro hags.
These bikers have the right idea.
I'm all for freedom of speech.
However, freedom of speech apparently doesn't apply if I have a cussword on my t-shirt, according to some coppers. It shouldn't apply for people actively trying to disrupt a military funeral with hateful signs and speeches.
Then you're not all for freedom of speech, only for freedom of speech with which you happen to agree.
That is the diametric opposite of the core principle.
Kilkrazy: Freedom of speech also means that I'm allowed to disagree with them and call them gakfethers.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:24:39
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Kilkrazy wrote:"Freedom of speech, that's some mother******* bs."
As an American said on Radio 4's Question Time at the weekend, human rights are never so important as when we are looking at people we hate and despise.
Vile, hateful bigots though Westboro clearly are, they have the right to express their views and Anonymous do not have the right to shut down their scummy websites.
Although it is much easier to destroy than to build, I would ask Anonymous to do something constructive about the Westboro situation. For example, issue a call to arms to get supporters of the armed forces, gays and so on to turn up to funerals and block out the Westboro hags.
These bikers have the right idea.
I'm all for freedom of speech.
However, freedom of speech apparently doesn't apply if I have a cussword on my t-shirt, according to some coppers. It shouldn't apply for people actively trying to disrupt a military funeral with hateful signs and speeches.
Then you're not all for freedom of speech, only for freedom of speech with which you happen to agree.
That is the diametric opposite of the core principle.
No, I'm saying:
"If I can't wear swearwords on my t-shirt in public, they shouldn't be allowed to hate on people who don't deserve hating".
2011/02/21 20:27:19
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
The Westboro Baptist Church believes that Barack Obama is the Antichrist, and that he forms an Unholy Trinity with Satan and Pope Benedict XVI, who they believe is the False Prophet.
And they even sourced it. I mean wow.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:29:32
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Looks like Anonymous is looking for a popular war to wage to justify its vigilante activities.
I feel Jonah Jameson when I write that, yet I believe it.
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2011/02/21 20:33:38
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Actually apparently they said "it's a trap!" when they read it.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:37:22
Subject: Re:Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
To question the thread title dont we also 'all agree' that Scientology as currently managed is abhorent.
Anonymous is not there to destroy scientology after all, just to shut down its more questionable practices.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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2011/02/21 20:39:34
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Melissia wrote:Kilkrazy: Freedom of speech also means that I'm allowed to disagree with them and call them gakfethers.
Of course it does.
It doesn't allow you to stop them from speaking.
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Wolfun wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:"Freedom of speech, that's some mother******* bs."
As an American said on Radio 4's Question Time at the weekend, human rights are never so important as when we are looking at people we hate and despise.
Vile, hateful bigots though Westboro clearly are, they have the right to express their views and Anonymous do not have the right to shut down their scummy websites.
Although it is much easier to destroy than to build, I would ask Anonymous to do something constructive about the Westboro situation. For example, issue a call to arms to get supporters of the armed forces, gays and so on to turn up to funerals and block out the Westboro hags.
These bikers have the right idea.
I'm all for freedom of speech. However, freedom of speech apparently doesn't apply if I have a cussword on my t-shirt, according to some coppers. It shouldn't apply for people actively trying to disrupt a military funeral with hateful signs and speeches.
Then you're not all for freedom of speech, only for freedom of speech with which you happen to agree.
That is the diametric opposite of the core principle.
No, I'm saying: "If I can't wear swearwords on my t-shirt in public, they shouldn't be allowed to hate on people who don't deserve hating".
Perhaps you are not aware that you live in a different country, with different laws.
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Melissia wrote:Kilkrazy: Freedom of speech also means that I'm allowed to disagree with them and call them gakfethers.
Of course it does.
It doesn't allow you to stop them from speaking.
But I can protest their speaking.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:54:22
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
Kilkrazy wrote:The thread of Anonymous to shut down Westboro web sites is the modern equivalent of burning books and beating up protestors.
Considering it wasn't even Anonymous that actually made the threat, not really.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2011/02/21 20:58:41
Subject: Anonymous finally does something useful that we can all agree on
