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I have been considering buying a AoBR box or Two, but it seems simple build models like those kinda turn up noses here and there. What's your opinion Dakka cheese up and get AoBR or spend a little extra on the actual individual boxes?

I have seen some really great conversions done off AoBR so DO IT

I personally don't like them but i won't not play someone because they are using them...

Don't really mind one way or the other. Mono-pose is mono-pose, but interspaced with some regular models they don't look quite as boring.

Why should I, using an army that basically is entirely monopose, frown upon monopose models from AoBR?

Frankly I wish my Sisters had an AoBR-esque set, would make it easier to convert and paint with plastic instead of this dinky metal. Ah well, it's gonna be a while before I even think about expanding any of my armies again anyway.

I think maybe in the old days when monopose really did mean monopose (you should have seen the Orks in the 2nd Ed box set - all identical) people might have got a bit snobby about it. But the AoBR models have sufficient variety and look pretty cool to boot.

Either way, I'd have no issue with it. Good luck with the painting: thumbsup:

Flashman wrote:(you should have seen the Orks in the 2nd Ed box set - all identical)

I'm currently selling some on ebay if you are interested

They are not the best, but they get the job done. Lol most of my long fang units are made from the AoBR ML model.

The AoBR actually are pretty good models and great for conversions, in fact alot of people I know actually for AoBR models over normals especially the Nobs, Warboss, Deffkoptas, Dreadnough and Terminators. So this (and probably the Island of Blood) are 2 box kits that don't really fall under the whole "mono pose bad".

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. If someone complains, ask them to buy you some models or STFU.

I dont own any of them, but there is nothing wrong with them. If you can save a little money buying them from the AoBR box go for it!

I got a handful for rank and file marines. They're fine, man.

I honestly prefer some of the AoBR models over the normal ones. The Tact Marines all have the Tactical Symbol moulded onto their shoulders, and their Missile Launchers have the full harness with reloader arm, which is MUCH more impressive than the normal one. In addition, given that most marines will end up holding the bolter the same way anyways, I dont really see much of a difference when put side by side with a normal marine (with the exception of the head, which is turned). The other models blends in with their normal counterparts (I've inter-mixed AoBR terminators with normal Terminators, it's not easy to pick them out) and, with some creative cutting, can save you alot of money (from where I buy them, they cost literally 1/3 of the normal terminators). Finally, alot of the models, like the Captain, Ork Warboss, and Deffcoptas, either have dynamic poses and a really unique design (the captain) or are a great plastic alternative to an otherwise already-monopose model.

Nothing wrong with AoBR; go for it.

Personally, I cut all the arms off the nobs and then magnetized their shoulders, customized the guns, so that I can have any kind of wargear allocation that I like.

The problems I have with the AoBR marines are as follows:

1) worst mold lines out of any GW plastic set I have ever seen. Some of the stuff isn't even file-able/cuttable/hideable, you may be able to do some painting trickery to somewhat conceal it.

2) The raised arrows on the shoulderpads. They do make the symbol raised easier to paint, but the arrow isn't separated from the shoulder-rim (forcing you to freehand the rim if you want it separate from the arrow.) There is also a mold line that cuts right through the symbol and if you mess up on the cut, you'll just mess up the tip of the arrow and you'll have to freehand paint that, too.

3) commander has too many details to accept much paint! inexperienced painters are SURE to muck the model up very easily.

otherwise i love the models though. the flamer/ML guys are very solid, the sergeant doesn't seem too bad for conversion if you need a PF on him. dig the straps on the guns. I'm more or less used to the 3rd edition marines with barely anything on the power armor, so these look pretty nice in comparison.

Plenty of people use the AoBR Orks for Burna conversions. With a micro saw you can reposition about half of the Ork models that have raised right arms.

I'd have no problem with someone using these models.

I've considered actually doing conversions on an army to get them all into a mono-pose. I think it could give a really cool "marching in formation" look that would be a bit more intimidating than a "scurrying soldiers under fire".



Go ahead, try and tell me that doesn't look bad-ass.

It may be impractical for a battle, but it certainly looks cool.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I honestly prefer some of the AoBR models over the normal ones. The Tact Marines all have the Tactical Symbol moulded onto their shoulders, and their Missile Launchers have the full harness with reloader arm, which is MUCH more impressive than the normal one. In addition, given that most marines will end up holding the bolter the same way anyways, I dont really see much of a difference when put side by side with a normal marine (with the exception of the head, which is turned). The other models blends in with their normal counterparts (I've inter-mixed AoBR terminators with normal Terminators, it's not easy to pick them out) and, with some creative cutting, can save you alot of money (from where I buy them, they cost literally 1/3 of the normal terminators). Finally, alot of the models, like the Captain, Ork Warboss, and Deffcoptas, either have dynamic poses and a really unique design (the captain) or are a great plastic alternative to an otherwise already-monopose model.

On the flip side of the box set, I still agree here, the AOBR Defkoptas are a thousand times better than their bulky, metal counterparts. The Nobz in AOBR are a thousand times better than the stock ones in a box of boyz (hint clip, clip, powerclaw, glue- Bam!), and to be honest the boyz from aobr are the only ones available with their arms straight forward shooting sluggas.

AND THEY"RE CHEAPER!

To be perfectly honest it's really a win win for the orks, not to mention that the SM dreadnaughts, while limited on options, look great too!!!

No problem with AoBR at all...

Anyone that gives you grief should be punished.

Nobody's gonna give you a hard time for AoBR models. They have kind of boring poses, but the sculpts themselves are nice, and it's better fighting against cheap GW models as opposed to paper cutouts or whatever. The only complaint I have fighting against AoBR-based armies is that they don't usually have much in the way of converted, unique models. That's nothing to get bent out of shape over though.

As a Tyranid player...they all taste the same...

Apart from the Boyz and Tactical marines, all of my AoBR models have been converted in some way or another (and the only reason I dont touch Boyz or Tactical Marines is because there's too many of them to make unique). In fact currently my entire SM army, bar the vehicles, are AoBR based (The commanders are a Chaplain and Librarian in Terminator armor, both converted from the Stock AoBR Terminators). Likewise, my Ork army, bar the Killa Kanz, are all AoBR Nobz and Boyz (the Big Mek is a leftover Nob).

Most of you probably weren't playing during 2nd edition. Compared to the Orks and Marines supplied with the 2nd ed. boxed set, the AoBR models are fething fantastic.

Grakmar wrote:

Go ahead, try and tell me that doesn't look bad-ass.

It may be impractical for a battle, but it certainly looks cool.

Oh I'd say it to their face, and they'd do nothing about it. Literally.


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And if you mix in AOBR guys with some normal guys noone will ever notice. Not that it matters if they did.

ArtfcllyFlvrd wrote:

Grakmar wrote:

Go ahead, try and tell me that doesn't look bad-ass.

It may be impractical for a battle, but it certainly looks cool.

Oh I'd say it to their face, and they'd do nothing about it. Literally.


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And if you mix in AOBR guys with some normal guys noone will ever notice. Not that it matters if they did.

Contrary to popular belief they are allowed to beat your face in if you try and provoke them...

until they go off duty, or you actually touch them...

The prohibition from moving has a few caveats, and nothing stops them from running into you in a bar later...


I love the AOBR. My waaagh would be pretty small without the aobr boyz and nobz, and i love the plastic koptas

I just love the anachronism of classic Beefeater uniforms with modern assault rifles. Lot like certain IG regiments, inst' it?

Anvildude wrote:I just love the anachronism of classic Beefeater uniforms with modern assault rifles. Lot like certain IG regiments, inst' it?

The beefeaters look different...
They do however look similar to Praetorians who are possibly the best idea for an IG regiment ever thought up... Imagine if Forgeworld did Praetorians instead of Deathkorp.

kronk wrote:Absolutely nothing wrong with it. If someone complains, ask them to buy you some models or STFU.

x2 to kronk's statement

I've got a couple AoBR's for Orks. The best part, I don't worry about playing around with conversions because they are relatively cheap cost-wise. Sometimes it is hard to justify hacking something up, with a good chance of messing up, when paying the price of the individual sets. No worries on the AoBR boyz!

They aren't beefeater uniforms Anvil
They are Guards but not sufficiently clued up to tell which ones by the number of buttons etc.

The Yeomanry Guards at the Tower of London have uniforms based on the 16th century one.

But I know what you mean
It never looked quite as anachronistic with the old Lee-Enfield