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What is the best ork unit to take down a death company dreadnought? I recently got my army slaughtered thanks to two blood angels dreadnoughts and i had nothing to kill them.

A Power Klaw Nob in every Boy squad? Warboss with Power Klaw and Nob squad? There's a decent amount of stuff for it in the book.

I suppose this relies a fair bit on what your army looks like due to the customisation available to the Orks.

n0t_u wrote:A Power Klaw Nob in every Boy squad? Warboss with Power Klaw and Nob squad?

Bad Advice. A Blood Claw dreadnought will a little luck behind them can just slice about any size mob of boyz down in one assault phase. Your sure bet is a deffrolla since it's can't death or glory can't hurt your Battlewagon, but mass rokkits should do the trick. Immobilize it then let it sit there. Also note that if you take one of the arms off it doesn't get those extra attacks.

A boarding plank wouldn't hurt either...

You can also ride around it and deal with it when other, bigger threats have been eliminated.

If you use a Kan Wall with rokkit support, these could help as well.

Just don't waste too many points on killing it if there are other, bigger threats on the board.

PK weilding nobz and bosses put nob w/ a PK in every boyz mob. Maybe some big gunz.

This:

DeffRolla

A boarding plank wouldn't hurt either...

Mobs can kill them, but you will lose a lot (or all) of the boys. You can be tied up for a while. but hey - he can't shoot you! Planks and Rollas can get you a cost-free solution (unless you miss and it eats your vehicle!! Don't miss!)

I've had some neat success with a PK boss. Lots of smashing to face

I always field deffkoptas and/or a shokk attack gun with my pk in every unit style. A weirdboy/warphead has served me well in the past as well. Well that and my deff dread and 3 kan killa kan rokkit squad I run.

Punch it with Ghazzy, which as all ork players know, is the appropriate answer for all of 40k.

Titan? Punch it with Ghazzy. Dread? Punch it with Ghazzy. Swarmlord? Punch it with Ghazzy.

General_Chaos wrote:Bad Advice. A Blood Claw dreadnought will a little luck behind them can just slice about any size mob of boyz down in one assault phase. Your sure bet is a deffrolla since it's can't death or glory can't hurt your Battlewagon, but mass rokkits should do the trick. Immobilize it then let it sit there. Also note that if you take one of the arms off it doesn't get those extra attacks.

The underlined is not correct.

BA dreads with twin Blood talons can hurt anything in the game that tries to tank shock/ram them. They have a Meltagun underslung to one of those Blood talons.

The most ork tactic questions can be solved with the following:
More boyz
More Power klaws
Run it over with a deffrolla
Boarding plank it's ass off
Shoot it up with lootas
Mass rokkit fire
Charge it with ghazzy and press your easy button.

Pick your poison.

I am making the assumption he's talking about Death Company Dreadnoughts armed with Blood Claws. So if that's the case then throwing more boyz at it is really a bad idea.

I tend to just glance them to uselessness with my Lootaz. Then pretend they aren't there.

Yeah! forgot Lootas.

I was assuming it was a Bloodclaws Dread. I don't usually hesitate attacking a Dread w/ boys & a Nob if it is a 'normal' Melta/Flamer/DCCW. Boys will usually win (but not always).

If there is a flamer-totin' Dread in assault range of a boys mob you'd BETTER do something. Assault is usually plan B!

I have never played against those dreadnoughts. I have always assaulted them with ghaz or nobs with claws if I have them, or rammed them with a wagon.

Ramming is not optimal, obviously.

Why not try having 3 or 4 trukks in your army with wreker balls, Ive taken out a couple normal dreads that way, but never fought BA and there death company dreadnaught is nasty trukks are cheap though and if you stick em full of cheap boys with no upgrades you can whizz your trukks round and wreker ball him whilst your cheap boys pester the dreadnaughts support units

Shokk Attack Gun? inefficient but good green goods its fun to play!

Warboss with Klaw is seriously bad advice. You think on average you will survive to strike back?

bucheonman wrote:I have never played against those dreadnoughts. I have always assaulted them with ghaz or nobs with claws if I have them, or rammed them with a wagon.

Ramming is not optimal, obviously.

Why not? Even if the dread does DoG, it will still get 2D6 S10 hits with a 33% chance of hitting it in the rear arc, assuming it always pens the BW(which it doesn't).

thank you all for your advice. I will definitely try some of these out next time I face a BA army with dreadnoughts. or any dreadnoughts for that matter.

a Boy Mob with a PK nob has a decent chance of killing it.

of course, it COULD rip the whole mob up, but thats highily unlikely.

Charging it with boyz bad idea = bad idea

why? Four PK swings hitting on 4+ glancing on 3+ hoping to get a wrecked or explode roll are not good odds. Then you stuck in combat getting three swings and glancing on 4+ is even worse.

Charging it with Warboss = really bad idea

why? Dread swings first hitting on 4+ wounding on 3+ with rerolls and getting another attack for every wound.

The real bane is Furioso Dreads that 13 AR is a nightmare

Generally with Orks a Dreadnaught is one of the only unit types that you do NOT want to Assault. Why? Your PK has to hit Front armor is why, and Dreads can usually be relied on to have a WS of 4 + so your PK hits aren't even guaranteed.

Use Rokkits or Lootas or a Deffrolla, depending on whether or not your Battlewagon is worth risking on the Death or Glory (hint, if you've already dropped off the troops it was carrying, it's probably worth it)

You'll have to forgive me because I have forgotten the stats on this particular dread.

If we're talking about the twin-blood talon dread, if my memory serves, Blood Talons don't count as Dreadnaught CCWs. So its attacks are just normal S6 attacks. If that is the case, it's one of the few Dreadnaughts in the game that I'd go ahead and assault with a Deff Dread or a squad of Killa Kans. Sure, you're going last, but he's going to need 6 to even glance a Dread, and 5+ to pen a Kan. Chances are low he's going to glance your Dread to death or blow up 3 Kans.

But I could be wrong about the stats on the dread, so if I am, completely ignore that advice.

Send Deffkoptas to shoot rear armor with rokkits or use Buggies to hit rear armor.

usually the bloodtalon Dreads I send Ghaz or throw a dethrolla wagon at it and hope he DoG so you can get 2d6 S10 hits. You dont have to kill the dread but immobilizing it works just as good.

Another thing to note Dreads can't Death or Glory if you run them over from behind

Jidmah wrote:

bucheonman wrote:I have never played against those dreadnoughts. I have always assaulted them with ghaz or nobs with claws if I have them, or rammed them with a wagon.

Ramming is not optimal, obviously.

Why not? Even if the dread does DoG, it will still get 2D6 S10 hits with a 33% chance of hitting it in the rear arc, assuming it always pens the BW(which it doesn't).

Why? Because I value my wagon much higher than I value killin a dread. But I will do it if the situation warrants it.

General_Chaos wrote:Another thing to note Dreads can't Death or Glory if you run them over from behind

Is this statement true? if so I never knew and thats handy to know

BRB Pg. 73 Ramming a Walker

Good times! I do like to smash em with wrecker balls though, but now my trukks have another use after dropping the mega nobz off!