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Hi Dakka. I'm a first generation American, my parents being from Germany. I recently picked up just over 2k of IG for a good price and threw everything in some simple green. I was looking over the codex and saw the Death Korps of Kreig entry. They seem very German in taste. I didn't like the style of the Armageddon Steel Legion because I prefer the cool colors to the warm colors. The DKoK didn't have a paint section in the codex, so I was wondering if I could get help looking for other German Style IG or paint schemes to the DKoK, thanks.

Death Korps of Kreig leads in on its name. Very dark, very Wehrmacht looking, and check Forgeworld for the designs.

But remember you can paint them however you please; the Steel Legion long coat is yellow due to Armageddons terrain(i assume) so make them however you like.

If you want German IG that isn't going to bust the bank, I may suggest that you use plastic guardsmen and simply buy 3rd party German infantry heads.

Westwind productions does some:



http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_178&products_id=1081

http://store.warlordgames.co.uk/germans-108-c.asp


Beats the flipping hell out of flames of war. Models are of better quality. Doesn't look like a model sculpted, assembled, cast, and painted by a 5 year old. Fairly certain they have separate heads and hats. I know commandos do but i think German sprues have helmets/caps separate from the heads.

If you want another German-style Imperial Guard, there's always the Mordian Iron Guard. They have a very 1870's Prussian feel to them, and are usually bright in color:

Above is true, although Mordians remind me more of USMC dress uniforms.



The ones from the far left to the center are dress uniforms. The two on the right are other uniforms.

halonachos wrote:Above is true, although Mordians remind me more of USMC dress uniforms.



The ones from the far left to the center are dress uniforms. The two on the right are other uniforms.

As a note, those are all dress uniforms. The two on the right are just a lower classification.

Varrick wrote: Death Korps of Kreig leads in on its name. Very dark, very Wehrmacht looking, .

They are closer to ww1 era soldiers than Heer.
Steel legion is pretty much the closest thing you can get to Heer.

You can paint anyone any color you like. The old IG book had a couple dozen paint schemes for Cadia alone. It's particularly easy if you just make up a planet. Since it seems you already own the models you're going to be using I suppose you should be telling us which IG model range they are. If they're wearing football helmets they're Cadians, undershirts are Catachans, metal figures with gas masks are Steel Legion, longcoats without gas masks are Valhallans, turbans are Tallarns, epaulets are Mordians, and fuzzy hats and moustaches are Vostroyans. Those are just the names of the model ranges. The army they are used to represent does not necessarily have to come from those planets.

Devastator wrote:

Varrick wrote: Death Korps of Kreig leads in on its name. Very dark, very Wehrmacht looking, .

They are closer to ww1 era soldiers than Heer.
Steel legion is pretty much the closest thing you can get to Heer.

With the colors related to them i get more of a dark WW II feeling from Kreig and a WWI(Belgium france & German mix) from Steel legion. I know that's not how they were modeled but the model itself reminds me more of WWII than WW one and i still don't see third Reich military from Steel legion. I get both being a set of WWI themed armies but the color scheme of Kreig shouts Wehrmacht to me. Even though it is the same color for WWI. Probably just what is seen more in history books.

Either way they both are WWI one Europe but the color scheme and mask on Kreig makes me thing WWII Germany. In any event they are in top for my favorite regiments.

Some clarifications:
1.) It's spelled Krieg, not Kreig (pronounced creek, not crike).
2.) DKoK has several inspirations, mostly from German and French WW1 trencher uniforms.
3.) Heer just means army, such as Luftwaffe means air force, and contemporary German forces also have a Heer and Luftwaffe. Wehrmacht is the name of the military forces (army, air force and navy) of the Third Reich, was Reichswehr before and became Bundeswehr after WW2.
4.) Steel legion is closest to WW2 German paratroopers, but not identical.
5.) You can browse www.coolminiornot.com or Dakka or google gallery for painting ideas.

Kroothawk wrote:Some clarifications:
1.) It's spelled Krieg, not Kreig (pronounced creek, not crike).

Good to know, I thought it was pronounced kreeg, I'll change that.


Not Sure the Mordians really are German in that they could easily be French or British too or even Russian; their style seems to be a mix.

the Steel legion is based on how all Trench Warfare regiments from both sides ended up looking.


just get the models and paint them how you like.


If you want a more German color, just paint them a dark grey. or you could go for the more realistic, albiet less recognisable, camo schemes.

Snarky wrote:If you want German IG that isn't going to bust the bank, I may suggest that you use plastic guardsmen and simply buy 3rd party German infantry heads.

Westwind productions does some:


http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_178&products_id=1081

Ironically I used their British heads for my Israel Defence Forces-themed IG army and it worked out great. Good suggestion.

Also, get some 1/48 scale German infantry accessories like backpacks and whatnot.

Or for a German army you can just use the Cadian set with added backpacks.

How does adding backpacks make them German?

Well, the Death Koprs of Krieg are actually designed after german WW1 forces. Theyve got the same style helmet, battled in wasteland and trenches, have a grey uniform color along with a german style trench/ overcoat, they all wear gas masks, etc.
Also, their mortars have a striking ressemblence to Austrio Hungarian mortars. Not only that but their big guns are deployed in a similar manner.


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Snarky wrote:If you want German IG that isn't going to bust the bank, I may suggest that you use plastic guardsmen and simply buy 3rd party German infantry heads.

Westwind productions does some:



http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_178&products_id=1081

Also, Renegade miniatures does some real nice german WW1 guys. If you doctor em up a bit theyll look just like DKOK

cadbren wrote:How does adding backpacks make them German?

Because cadians can be used to represent any military force and as soldiers carry their kit they have backpacks (i would also mix in some catachan arms as well)


..................oh sorry i see whats the problem, when you guys say German you actually mean Hitler's homeboys and not actually the German Army.

Jollydevil wrote:Well, the Death Koprs of Krieg are actually designed after german WW1 forces. Theyve got the same style helmet, battled in wasteland and trenches, have a grey uniform color along with a german style trench/ overcoat, they all wear gas masks, etc.

As said, they also feature elements from French WW1 troops:
1.) The helmet features the crown of the French Adrian helmet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_helmet
2.) At the bottom, the coat is buttoned as French troops did, leaving it open to the front for better manoeuverability. Rarely done by Germans, if at all.

Harriticus wrote:If you want another German-style Imperial Guard, there's always the Mordian Iron Guard. They have a very 1870's Prussian feel to them, and are usually bright in color

BTW: I guess no German would associate Mordians with German/Prussian troops, as they look too similar to US Marine Corps dress uniform and are always painted as such. BTW 1871 the small German states were unified to the Deutsches Reich with no special Prussian troops at all, and troops had other field caps with no sunshield then or some kind of Pickelhaube helmet.

BluntmanDC wrote:

cadbren wrote:How does adding backpacks make them German?

Because cadians can be used to represent any military force and as soldiers carry their kit they have backpacks (i would also mix in some catachan arms as well)


..................oh sorry i see whats the problem, when you guys say German you actually mean Hitler's homeboys and not actually the German Army.

No we mean Kaiser Wilhelm IIs Homeboys. Get your wars straight.
As for Kroothawk, thanks, ive learned something new today. I do alot more study on German guys, I think theyre the most interesting.

BluntmanDC wrote:

cadbren wrote:How does adding backpacks make them German?

Because cadians can be used to represent any military force and as soldiers carry their kit they have backpacks (i would also mix in some catachan arms as well)


..................oh sorry i see whats the problem, when you guys say German you actually mean Hitler's homeboys and not actually the German Army.

when people say they want a German looking army, the first thing you do is assume its WW2 Germans. then you assume its WW1 germans.


anything after that is going to be wrong most of the time.

See also my Praetorian Guard bitz thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/314475.page that includes conversion parts for the (Cadian to Mordian upper body).

BTW, Westwind http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?infoBox=0&cPath=126_149 also has separate heads for Pickelhaube, Adrian Helmet, Kepi and Tommy Helmet, all with gas masks.

to be quite honest, those heads would look very out of place on a Cadian body without some greenstuff work to make them look more germanesk.

making the skirts on the body longer would work.

Grey Templar wrote:to be quite honest, those heads would look very out of place on a Cadian body without some greenstuff work to make them look more germanesk.

making the skirts on the body longer would work.

They would look sort of out of place, however I think that if you greenstuffed up a jacket and stuff they would look fantastic.

Thats what i said

Jollydevil wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:to be quite honest, those heads would look very out of place on a Cadian body without some greenstuff work to make them look more germanesk.

making the skirts on the body longer would work.

They would look sort of out of place, however I think that if you greenstuffed up a jacket and stuff they would look fantastic.

... or maybe use some greenstuff for the jacket

That's why I mentioned the Mordian upper body conversion bits in the other thread first. But painting the Cadian Jacket blue and the trousers white or grey and the armour either black or tin bitz wouldn't look bad.

Germans already got 3 Regiments based on them! Isn't that enough? Pretty sure that's a GW record.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Germans already got 3 Regiments based on them! Isn't that enough? Pretty sure that's a GW record.

3? Where? All I see are DKOK

and Steel Legion and Mordians.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:and Steel Legion and Mordians.

Steel legion maybe, not as much as DKoK, but Mordian, na, more of the marines.