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The Miniature Painting Secrets with Jennifer Haley Painting DVD will be at GenCon and online shorly there after for $39.99!

Jennifer Haley will also be at the CoolMiniOrNot Booth (#849) during hall hours.

CoolMiniOrNot is running DVD bundle deals at the show:

The Miniature Painting Secrets with Natalya and Jen DVD for $70, normally $90

The Miniature Painting Secrets withJen Haley and Natalya and The 7-Day army DVD for $100, normally $130

I LOVE YOU JEN! WOOOOO! (I wish I was going)

I see they still have the "OMG, a woman....with BOOBS!!" cover thing going, though a bit less gratuitous then the last DVD.

/still secretly hoping for a Marike Reimer vid/cover...

Regardless of the cover she does great work. I love her 54mm stuff.

Her tutorial video on miniature mentor was great, but sadly was for a monochrome miniature. This color miniature should be great to see how she gets such perfect blends and clean painting.

djphranq wrote:Regardless of the cover she does great work. I love her 54mm stuff.

Oh, certainly, definitely not trying to disparage her talent...just pointing out the obvious marketing ploy by CMON.

That's a really nicely painted figure.

I especially like the purple shading underneath the eyes and the translucent embroidered effect on the dress.

Rated 'R' for nudity.

Huh, I didn't think anyone would have the balls to charge more ridiculous prices than GW for a product, but I guess I was mistaken. Maybe they should use more boob advertisement.

Drool. Wonder if she's got anything in there on her Skully winners...

Does anyone own these?

Yup... not bad, although I recommend Miniature Mentor more.

Some 28mm examples of her work:

I need to take a cover shot of me wearing a low cut front.

It'll sell in the millions (of lawsuits).

Great googly moogly those are some beautifully painted miniatures. I'm not sure why everyone's so hung up about an adequately attractive female being on the front cover. At the end of the day, most of us like looking at women more than men and there's no questioning her painting expertise. What would you prefer instead, this guy?

I remember the last thread, when US posters went all mad over the boobs and were not interested in the painting at all, ruining the thread.

Irdiumstern wrote:Huh, I didn't think anyone would have the balls to charge more ridiculous prices than GW for a product, but I guess I was mistaken. Maybe they should use more boob advertisement.

You realise that the market for this sort of thing is incredibly small right?
If you don't like paying for things I'm sure YouTube can help you out with painting tutorials.

ancientsociety wrote:I see they still have the "OMG, a woman....with BOOBS!!" cover thing going, though a bit less gratuitous then the last DVD.

Cleavage and boobs sell. Marketing research indicates something like (going by memory) a 25% to 40% boast in sales of products with boobs on the cover...even products specifically aimed at women (like Cosmo). Like it or it - for either sex...they grab the eye sparking interest and increasing sales.

I have her miniature mentor monochrome dvd, its amazing!! i wish i was going to gencon :(

Kroothawk wrote:I remember the last thread, when US posters went all mad over the boobs and were not interested in the painting at all, ruining the thread.

Yep, we are a silly lot sometimes.

I think Jennifer Haley's cover looks fine. She is tastefully attired, in a relaxed pose (not jutting out her chest) and her smirk is rather amusing. Now, that mini to the right of her...that is just a blatant attempt to capture the attention of hormonally charged males. I mean look at that woman. She is practically falling out of her armor!

Kroothawk wrote:I remember the last thread, when US posters went all mad over the boobs and were not interested in the painting at all, ruining the thread.

She has another video? Who published it - Vivid or Wicked?





*bows*

My work here is done...

Kroothawk wrote:Some 28mm examples of her work: (images)

..... wow. That blending is incredible.

Does anyone actually own this DVD? I'd like to know if it's worth it. I've looked at several of these DVD's and been intrigued, but not quite enough to buy one... yet.

plastictrees wrote:

Irdiumstern wrote:Huh, I didn't think anyone would have the balls to charge more ridiculous prices than GW for a product, but I guess I was mistaken. Maybe they should use more boob advertisement.

You realise that the market for this sort of thing is incredibly small right?
If you don't like paying for things I'm sure YouTube can help you out with painting tutorials.

It's not that people don't like paying for things, it's the idea that any painting tutorial video sells for $130, and is being offered at the bargain price of $100. Even the $39.99 is a little laughable in my opinion. The work is brilliant, but the price seems shocking to me.

People pay $15 for a 1.5hr DVD full of entertainment.

$40 for a 6hr instructional DVD full of a person's life work is not unreasonable. It's on the high side, but at least she has quality to show for it. This ain't no Finecost scam. There are plenty of DVDs that teach you Photoshop, camerawork, 3D modelling, etc for more than this. Go to your local bookstore and you'll find How-To books for over $120, and that's with a 2hr DVD. $40 is reasonable and selling it in a bundle with an equivalent DVD for $10 off is also reasonable.

It's no must-have deal, but it's on par in comparison to other how-to DVDs.

What she's wearing on that cover is in no way gratuitous or exploitative. It's nothing you wouldn't see in a restaurant, a book store, or a convention. Get over yourselves.

Just wondering does anyone know where the models (in the pictures) come from aside from the GW and PP ones.

Absolutionis wrote:What she's wearing on that cover is in no way gratuitous or exploitative. It's nothing you wouldn't see in a restaurant, a book store, or a convention. Get over yourselves.

Agreed. That outfit might be pushing the limits of "business casual" depending on your office, but that's about it. Sometimes I don't think folk here get out all that much...


Otherwise, I am glad to see that so many really good painters are getting painting videos put out. While I probably won't be buying one myself, it is cool to see them getting some notoriety and hopefully another stream of income as a result of their hard work.

I bought the little video she did of the monochrome mini. Very cool video and very informative. As to the that pic, ugh, terrible shot.

Wehrkind wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:What she's wearing on that cover is in no way gratuitous or exploitative. It's nothing you wouldn't see in a restaurant, a book store, or a convention. Get over yourselves.

Agreed. That outfit might be pushing the limits of "business casual" depending on your office, but that's about it. Sometimes I don't think folk here get out all that much...

This. Although I will admit, that's the most makeup I've ever seen her wear.

I have the miniature painting video released last year by Natalya. I was very underwelmed by it. We are never told what colors are being used, there is very little narration, just her painting at double speed for 10+ hours. To make maters worse many of the minis used in the video are out of print thus hard to copy and follow along. I am afriad this disk will be the same, but I hope not as Jen was one of those painters who really got me into the hobby back when she posted her first fianna mini back in the day.

If you want a good painting video I suggest Hot Lead. Lazlo knows what he is talking about and does a great job explaining things. FYI if anyone is interestd my Natalya video is up for sale or trade.

augustus5 wrote:It's not that people don't like paying for things, it's the idea that any painting tutorial video sells for $130, and is being offered at the bargain price of $100.

It is not one video for $130, it is three different ones sold in a bundle, having maybe 20+ hours of footage.

Necrosis wrote:Just wondering does anyone know where the models (in the pictures) come from aside from the GW and PP ones.

Here is her website with more pics: http://www.paintrix-miniatures.com/