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hello! I was reading the Grey Knights Omnibus and the fight that took place between the grey knights and sisters was pretty crazy.
but there were a few moments when their physical strength seem far above any normal human.

and so I ask being ignorant on any sisters of battle fluff. how physically strong are they? they seem much stronger then guardsmen.
I understand they have power armor but do they have implants that increase strength as well?

I mean it must take a lot to pummel a grey knight backward >.>

This should answer all your question...




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Without armor, they are stong as ordinary Human. But with power armor they get a little more strength. I am sure Lynata or Melissia will fill out for me.

As Brother Coa said, they are pretty much the same strength and toughness as a Guardsmen, maybe little stronger due to their training. However, introducing power armour to the mix you have strength of the servos to multiply their natural strength several times over. Though still not at the level of Marines.

This is probably what your SOB would look like outside of power armor in real life:


Not this:


EDIT: Also, those double D "boobs" you see sticking out of the chestplate on them sisters? They're actually peck muscles.

Sisters of Battle are not musclebuilders. They are warriors.

Try showing an image of a female USMC marine or a female Mossad agent or something instead.

Sisters are as strong as a physically fit, exceedingly well-trained soldier. Their strength is then enhanced and stabilized by their power armor.

Sisters are stronger then normal humans because they wear PA, which increases the Str of its wearer.

in the game, the increase isn't enough to warrent an increase in basic strength because it uses a fairly broad range of stats.


That said, they will be physically fit. like a female US Marine or Army member.

They will certaintly NOT look like body builders(who actually see diminishing return on the massive increase in muscle mass. the first few gained pounds of muscle will increase your str more then the last few pounds will)

Think of what it would be like to be hit by Mary Kate and Ashley Olson if they wrapped their tiny anoxeric fists in aluminum foil.

That is what getting hit by a Sister would be like.

Tyr Grimtooth wrote:Think of what it would be like to be hit by Mary Kate and Ashley Olson if they wrapped their tiny anoxeric fists in aluminum foil.

That is what getting hit by a Sister would be like.

There are so many things wrong with this.

Power armor or not these chicks are dedicated to war and train far more physically than your average Guard, they'll be physically stronger then most Guardsmen or PDF. Probably some minor degree of bio-enhancement as well.

Probably olympic level athletes that are also boosted by power armour.

Basic guardsmen (and tau firewarriors) are at the low end of Strength 3. Ork boys are at the high end of strength 3. Sisters are between them, probably higher than stormtroopers (thanks to power armor) but not by too much.

Combat soldiers dont' need to be as strong as possible, they need to be strong enough.

Polonius wrote:Basic guardsmen (and tau firewarriors) are at the low end of Strength 3. Ork boys are at the high end of strength 3. Sisters are between them, probably higher than stormtroopers (thanks to power armor) but not by too much.

Table rules and stats are not = to game fluff.

Brother Coa wrote:

Polonius wrote:Basic guardsmen (and tau firewarriors) are at the low end of Strength 3. Ork boys are at the high end of strength 3. Sisters are between them, probably higher than stormtroopers (thanks to power armor) but not by too much.

Table rules and stats are not = to game fluff.

Well.... there's certainly not a complete disconnect.

I'd imagine that out of power armor sisters would be like any other elite female warrior/athlete: almost but not quite as strong as the male equivilent. With power armor, the sister is now strong enough to freely move a few extra hundred pounds of armor, so would almost assuredly be far stronger than before.

They're still no stronger than they need to be, which is to say strong enough to manuever in their armor and fire their bolters.

Tyr Grimtooth wrote:Think of what it would be like to be hit by Mary Kate and Ashley Olson if they wrapped their tiny anoxeric fists in aluminum foil.

That is what getting hit by a Sister would be like.

If Mary Kate and Ashley Olsons' tiny, foil-wrapped fists caused your skull to burst into flames and shatter, yes.

Brother Coa wrote:

Polonius wrote:Basic guardsmen (and tau firewarriors) are at the low end of Strength 3. Ork boys are at the high end of strength 3. Sisters are between them, probably higher than stormtroopers (thanks to power armor) but not by too much.

Table rules and stats are not = to game fluff.

Agreed. Imo it's something like Space Marine > Ork > SoB > Guardsman > Fire Warrior

Polonius wrote:I'd imagine that out of power armor sisters would be like any other elite female warrior/athlete: almost but not quite as strong as the male equivilent. With power armor, the sister is now strong enough to freely move a few extra hundred pounds of armor, so would almost assuredly be far stronger than before.

Well, from the descriptions, the strength-enhancing mechanics of Sororitas power armour are not as powerful as the Astartes equivalent - which, in connection with a couple other gadgets being missing - allows the Angel-pattern armour to retain a comparatively small shape whilst still providing Marine-grade armoured protection. It's hard to say by how much a wearer's strength would be affected exactly, though. I wouldn't go as far and say "greatly", but in combination with their peak condition training it'd probably make a difference and allow them to bridge the gap between themselves and abnormally well muscled males. After all, Space Marines aside, the only humans who can deal with the weight of heavy bolters without the aid of a tripod are Battle Sisters in power armour and men like this.

Its probably not so much the weight of the heavy bolter as much as it is the recoil. the human body is capable of carrying a bolter or absorbing the Recoil, but not both. the PA allows the human body to do both. Harker's just a beast of a man and is out of the norm.

generally weaker than male soldiers but thanks to their power armour, they'd be quite formidable

Melissia wrote:Sisters of Battle are not musclebuilders. They are warriors.
Try showing an image of a female USMC marine or a female Mossad agent or something instead.
sisters are as strong as a physically fit, exceedingly well-trained soldier. Their strength is then enhanced and stabilized by their power armor.

Very hard to find semi-nude pictures of female soldiers that show off their body shape without it being sexualized but yes RL female soldiers are disturbingly normal looking.

Grey Templar wrote:Its probably not so much the weight of the heavy bolter as much as it is the recoil. the human body is capable of carrying a bolter or absorbing the Recoil, but not both. the PA allows the human body to do both. Harker's just a beast of a man and is out of the norm.

Well, bolt weaponry employs low velocity projectiles which only accelerate after having left the barrel, and the extreme weight of the weapon may easily negate the kinetic force... Now, this is just me, but I think it's telling that the sources only ever talk about the "heavy weight" and "cumbersome nature" concerning such weapons, not recoil. The latter seems to be an interpretation of some licensed authors and parts of the fandom, but never once mentioned by GW themselves.

That said, it could still be enough to keep most people from using one reliably. Even a little kick can lead to a great loss of accuracy, considering the high rate of fire of this weapon. And once that gun is moving, the heavy weight that negates a good deal of recoil becomes a disadvantage, for the soldier carrying the gun would have difficulties stopping it again and/or holding it steady.

Also, the ammunition normally carried by the loader will add quite a deal of additional weight if someone attempts to just carry it all by himself.

Tyr Grimtooth wrote:Think of what it would be like to be hit by Mary Kate and Ashley Olson if they wrapped their tiny anoxeric fists in aluminum foil.

That is what getting hit by a Sister would be like.

Awesome post!

GamzaTheChaos wrote:and so I ask being ignorant on any sisters of battle fluff. how physically strong are they? they seem much stronger then guardsmen.
I understand they have power armor but do they have implants that increase strength as well?

A GK is just a marine despite his training and gear, he dies as easily as any other marine. And the Sisters have Faith in the Emperor... some of them momentarily do things far beyond what seems plausible in order to put down enemies of the Church. If the SoB are fighting GK then obviously the Emperor wants the heretic marines to die. Common examples include increased strength or reaction speed, miraculously surviving a lascannon hit unscathed or sudden bursts of murderously accurate weapons fire. The Living Saint St. Celestine has even been known to return from tge dead in order to finish the fight.

Acts of Faith, in short. As in the rules their army has, but written into the story as impressive actions instead of +1S.

Spetulhu wrote:If the SoB are fighting GK then obviously the Emperor wants the heretic marines to die.

No.

The Emperor was against all the Sisters of Battle stand for. Aka divine reverence, especially when he was the deity being revered.

First post basically nailed this. Sisters are stronger than you're more moderately armoured human warrior, but don't approach Astartes level strength.

Void__Dragon wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:If the SoB are fighting GK then obviously the Emperor wants the heretic marines to die.

No.

The Emperor was against all the Sisters of Battle stand for. Aka divine reverence, especially when he was the deity being revered.

Of course, these days, he has their back. What with the miracles and the saints.

I could be wrong, but it's never been proven that the Acts of Faith are actually blessings from the Emperor.

And there are no heretic Grey Knights.

Void__Dragon wrote:I could be wrong, but it's never been proven that the Acts of Faith are actually blessings from the Emperor.

And there are no heretic Grey Knights.

What level of proof do you want, there? They pray to the Emperor and get miracles.

I always imagined sisters of battle to be something like this.

It isn't proven or disproven, rather it is implied that they are from the Emperor. It's kind of like the Orks I guess, they believe so hard it makes things happen.

Arturius wrote:What level of proof do you want, there? They pray to the Emperor and get miracles.

It could easily be manifestation of latent psychic talents powered by their belief.

Don't just generally assume what the Imperium believes is true.

But this is off topic, and I apologise for derailing the thread, a Sister of Battle outside of her power armour is as strong as a physically fit human woman, in the armour she should be stronger than human limits, but not Space Marine, or even Ork level.