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This is a question that has come up regarding GW a few times, so I thought why not here?

I enjoy pretty much everything new PP puts out for Warmachine or Hordes, but there always other things one wishes for. So, what would you like to see PP do next? Any ideas for new units or heroes? Maybe a hole in the army that has to be filled. Which character would you like to see get (another) epic version?

Right now I'm really loving the Blindwater Congregation. Models, rules and the fluff. We're getting a Bog Trog Warlock in the next book and I'm not sure if I would come up with another flavor of awesome Voodoo Crocodile, but I'd love to see the epic versions of Barnabas and Maelok, just to see where the fluff takes them. Some sort of snake warbeast would be cool as well.

What about new armies? I'm still not sure if I like the Retribution. A bit too sci-fi-ish for the setting IMO.
It would be nice to see the IK goblins get a bit more time in the spotlight. So far there are only 3 kinds of Gobbers: Rheinhold, the Cygnar mechanics and the fog crew. Why not more? Maybe some sort of scrap Warjack as a mercenary unit.

I'd like to see nearly every unit have mutually exclusive UAs that do different things for the units.

I'd like to see a culmination of the Vinter/Magnus arc.

That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Technically there exist rules to play him made by PP. Was part of an alt timeline event they did, but only some of the PGs have the various rules and they've got an NDA that prevents them from giving em out.

Plus after the Gak storm PP got from killing Seve's old boss when he wasnt a playable character, I doubt they'd want to mess with Vinter.

AduroT wrote:Technically there exist rules to play him made by PP. Was part of an alt timeline event they did, but only some of the PGs have the various rules and they've got an NDA that prevents them from giving em out.

Technically, he also has rules from the Lion's Coup PDF, doesn't mean he's currently a playable figure.

I doubt anyone would cry if Vinter was killed, especially considering the cries of Gary Stu everytime he does anything.

Paladin of the Wall Warcaster.

That is all.

malfred wrote:Paladin of the Wall Warcaster.

That is all.

If you push for it enough on the PP boards, it'll probably happen.

I mean, Devilsquid got his Steelhead caster.

Platuan4th wrote:

malfred wrote:Paladin of the Wall Warcaster.

That is all.

If you push for it enough on the PP boards, it'll probably happen.

I mean, Devilsquid got his Steelhead caster.

There has been a thread for a while now.

malfred wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

malfred wrote:Paladin of the Wall Warcaster.

That is all.

If you push for it enough on the PP boards, it'll probably happen.

I mean, Devilsquid got his Steelhead caster.

There has been a thread for a while now.

Didn't he also have a sig image campaigning for it?

IIRC, some of the Khador players also had Black Dragon campaign sigs and look what happened there.

Not saying there's a correlation, but it make ya think.

resculpts of their ugly old minis (winterguard and mechanithralls, lookin' at you), then a couple merc things:

a non-rhulic warjack (not collossal) that can deal high melee damage (possible)
power booster (nice, but not super important)
more magnus theme pieces (fortunately, possible)

no more warcasters or warlocks for at least 2 books (never gonna' happen)

after that, I agree with the above, mutually exclusive UAs would be cool

I'd also do a Magnus 3 with a companion Ranking Officer that can be attached to any Cygnar non-character unit to turn it into a Merc unit. That way you can bring Loyalists without having to use a theme force.

Platuan4th wrote:I'd also do a Magnus 3 with a companion Ranking Officer that can be attached to any Cygnar non-character unit to turn it into a Merc unit. That way you can bring Loyalists without having to use a theme force.

This man is a genius! (Seriously, that would be a really fun character option. Probably say non-character w/o lightning attack/immunity (since he doesn't like storm troops), and that would work great.)

McThralls ain't that ugly really... I mean for a steam punk zombie anyways. I do want a resculpt on them however just to add more model variety. First thing I'd do if they announced a resculpt would be to finally buy a box of the existing ones. Possibly two.

I already got my wish in an Ashlynn resculpt, and Eiryss 3 is coming for my Retribution. So I'm pretty happy with PP at the moment. The only thing I'm still wishing for is a female Dwarf caster, since if they follow the previous Searforge units, would work for Cygnar and thus be a 4th female caster for Highborn.

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Magnus backed Vinter when he went to the Skorne Empire, but lost faith after spending some time being tortured by Morghoul (I think this is the right name). He's currently looking to put Vinter's son on the throne, as he's apparently loyal to the line of succession.

derek wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Magnus backed Vinter when he went to the Skorne Empire, but lost faith after spending some time being tortured by Morghoul (I think this is the right name). He's currently looking to put Vinter's son on the throne, as he's apparently loyal to the line of succession.

I think it's more that he's so convinced that Leto is the wrong choice(he believes Leto is weakening the kingdom) that he's willing to find ANY possibility. However, he's also now convinced that Vinter is the wrong choice because he doesn't respect or really acknowledge those that are still loyal to him.

Thus, Magnus is grooming Julius to be the king that HE thinks should lead Cygnar.

Of course, the CRS is also terrified that Leto would make Julius the heir to the throne if he found out about him since Leto has no children(thanks to Vinter). I doubt Magnus knows this, though, and believes Caine is after Julius on the king's orders, not the head of intelligence's.

I'd get to work on writing more fluff. It's a great game. But it''s fluff is just enough for a good read. Whereas 40k could have several tomes made to it's lore.

Anung Un Rama wrote:Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

I'm not exactly sure what PP had in mind, but the merc entry on Magnus in MkII was confusing. I'm not sure if they did a poor job indicating his intentions in MkI, or if they decided to rewrite his character, but that entry wasn't what [i]I[/] thought Magnus was about...

The next books I'd want to see:

One full of new merc options to fill that faction out and provide more options to all factions across the board.

Ditto to minions.

A new Hordes faction with the just a few more options than RET has just to hear them complain Not sure what race I'd like to see, but Infernals or a Demonic style army is somewhat lacking ATM in Warmahordes.

Also Orcs have ZERO prescence thus far, which sure, they wanted to stray away from I suppose, but a few wouldn't hurt. (I like Orcs). MORE GOBBERS PLEASE!

And finally:
A fluff compendium that would get all the fluff from all the current releases and old released and consolidate them, along with those posted in the No Quarters. (This won't happen, but it would be sweet.)

Swap Vorkesh's Spell Ward for Sacred Ward. Suddenly, he's not useless.

hivemind66 wrote:A new Hordes faction with the just a few more options than RET has just to hear them complain Not sure what race I'd like to see, but Infernals or a Demonic style army is somewhat lacking ATM in Warmahordes.

Also Orcs have ZERO prescence thus far, which sure, they wanted to stray away from I suppose, but a few wouldn't hurt. (I like Orcs). MORE GOBBERS PLEASE!

I'm not sure if I want to see Orcs in the Iron Kingdoms. I think the classic Orc archetypes are already well represented in Trollbloods. Though Gobbers could really use some more stuff.

hivemind66 wrote:
Also Orcs have ZERO prescence thus far

They have zero presence because they don't exist on Caen.

The orc "niche" is sort of split across a variety of different races. Trolls aren't really all that orcish, and neither are Ogrun. Black Ogrun and Blighted Trolls are a little, but really they're a lot more unique.

The RPG setting had a funky underground dwelling race whose name I can't remember (started with D though) who were pretty cool. Dunno if they had legs for a full faction, but I think they'd make a good minion unit.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Read the Wrath fiction if you haven't. It shows both what Magnus intends and what Vinter is up to now that he lost the Skorne and Magnus as supporters.

Dais wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Read the Wrath fiction if you haven't. It shows both what Magnus intends and what Vinter is up to now that he lost the Skorne and Magnus as supporters.

I'll be interested to see what if any movement there is on that in Colossals. Seems like things are going to hit the fan very quickly.

derek wrote:

Dais wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

AduroT wrote:That would probably involve one of them dying, so it'd never happen.

Vinter isn't playable, so he's eligible.

Even after reading the Mercs book I'm still not sure what exactly Magnus' relationship with Vinter is. Magnus still wants to restore Cygnar to its former glory, right? Does he want to be king?

Read the Wrath fiction if you haven't. It shows both what Magnus intends and what Vinter is up to now that he lost the Skorne and Magnus as supporters.

I'll be interested to see what if any movement there is on that in Colossals. Seems like things are going to hit the fan very quickly.

The movement has to do with some new friends: a couple of the sea-faring persuasion and a few very big metal ones.

I'd like to see an infernal/demon type faction also.

And how about Plastic Bane Knights!