Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Like the title says which race/faction deserves to be the winner in the End Times of 40k? Now, please keep fanboyism on the down low, and it doesn't matter how improbable the faction is to win, just if you want them to. So, who should be the lucky weiner to rule the galaxy?
The Imperium, who have had an undisputed rule and have fallen to decay and rule through fear, superstition, and oppression?
The Orks, who live to fight and want nothing more?
The Tyranids, who have to fight on for their next meal, where defeat means starvation, and yet victory means the death of all other life?
The Craftworlds/Not Dark Eldar (not too good with Eldar fluff) who try to follow their Paths and want to reclaim their old empire?
The Dark Eldar, who live on in hedonism and aren't willing to change, but continue on with their vile tasks?
The Necrons, who have recently awoken to find their galaxy torn by war and also have an empire to reclaim?
The Tau, the newcomers who seek to conquer and assimilate the others into their own ranks?
Chaos, who in its fractured and infighting wish to topple the Imperium and have endless souls at their disposal? (Depends on which part of Chaos you're talking about, I guess)
None, they are all awful and don't deserve the right to rule?
Irishpeacockz-Blackjack needs a pay raise for being the welcomer to the crusade
Palleus-Write a school essay about Kroot! Pride. Prejudice. And Cannibalsim.
The Imperium fell to ruin due to betrayal and war. The fear, superstition and oppression came later as an attempt to prevent the final collapse.
The truth is, nobody deserves to win. You have to fight for your right to survive, and only those who win deserve to do so.
"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
Looking back, I think a more apt name for the point I was trying to make would he "who do you want to win?"
Irishpeacockz-Blackjack needs a pay raise for being the welcomer to the crusade
Palleus-Write a school essay about Kroot! Pride. Prejudice. And Cannibalsim.
The Imperium ofc. For all their flaws, they are still human. Please excuse my fictional speciesism here, but voting for a non-human faction seems kinda disturbing, considering that would mean extermination or enslavement for all humans.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/16 00:49:51
I meant that in the sense of going too far such as bashing on other races. Ex: "tau don't deserve it cuz of space fish communist bovines" and don't provide genuine reasoning.
Irishpeacockz-Blackjack needs a pay raise for being the welcomer to the crusade
Palleus-Write a school essay about Kroot! Pride. Prejudice. And Cannibalsim.
Whoever will the leave the galaxy a more peaceful place. Which will only happen when everything is dead. So I guess either tyranids or the necrons who want to kill everyone.
The Imperium should collapse and be replaced with an enlightened egalitarian human government that sets aside its differences with the Tau and Eldar to forge a new era of technological progress and galactic harmony.
Lol j/k. We already know who wins 40K: the Orks win because they live to fight. Khorne wins because blood spills. Nurgle wins because everything dies. Everyone else loses because even if they win they still have to live in 40K.
Tau reserved to win. They're essentially an alien copy of the Roman Republic (only minus elections). They maintain vassal states, are technologically advanced and value individual freedoms more than any other race in the setting (that includes DE)
Automatically Appended Next Post: Tau reserved to win. They're essentially an alien copy of the Roman Republic (only minus elections). They maintain vassal states, are technologically advanced and value individual freedoms more than any other race in the setting (that includes DE)
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/16 02:09:36
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
Killsmith wrote: The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
Source? Because I have to read any official publication that had anything but:
- Tau value everybody, from Gue-Vesa to Commander Shadowsun, equally
- Tau treat aliens quite well, and even allow conquered races to govern themselves, so long as they provide auxiliary forces for the Tau Legio - I mean Fire Warriors. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire
- Tau have many vassal states (lotsa them, seriously, at least 15 worlds, probably twice that, of vassal states. This doesn't even include the former Imperial Worlds). Add that to the 21 worlds directly ruled by the Tau, and you have a fairly formidable state. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire
- The Tau maintain a caste system that is composed of five sub-species. Within each caste, a caste member could be a lowly worker or a great leader, however, caste does not determine rank within society (aside from Ethereal. Ethereal and non-Ethereal does determine rank within society, but that's the only exception). The early Roman Empire maintained a caste system (of sorts), as well, with Plebians and Patricians.
- The Tau maintain a technologically advanced and culturally developed Empire, and are rapidly expanding. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire.
I don't know where you got this oppression bs from, but the Tau are the opposite of oppressive. They have planets that are known for being highly cultured, especially well-educated, highly artistic and poetic or even lazy. Seriously, where is your source for the oppression? Headcanon?
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/16 05:59:14
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
Killsmith wrote: The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
The Tau won't blow up your home world because one person on the other side of the planet was a traitor. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't force you to work 16 hours a day in a factory with no safety regulations. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't draft you and send you to the front lines two weeks later with a weapon barely more powerful than a flashlight. The Imperium will.
The Tau will value you at the same level as their drones, which are only intelligent enough to consider running away if there are more than four of them in the area...
"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
I don't know where you got this oppression bs from, but the Tau are the opposite of oppressive.
I think it's absolutely hilarious that you've worked yourself into such a screaming, raging, senseless, hysterical froth over a fictional alien race in a toy soldier game.
I can see you now, forehead soaked in sweat as tears stream down your face. "Tau... are... not... oppressive... you... heretic!!!" You scream as you slam your fist onto your keyboard, choking on your own bile as rage consumes you.
When you're feeling better, you might consider actually reading the wiki articles that you linked. A wiki should never be considered an authoritative source for anything because it is constructed by fans, but since you have chosen them as sources I think you should at least read them. They explain the dark side of the Tau canon very clearly.
From the Tau entry in the lexicanum:
In the dystopic Warhammer 40,000 universe, the Tau are the "least evil" race. They are more merciful, liberal, and progressive than the other races. They do not wish to exterminate other species, but integrate them into their empire. They have a thriving scientific tradition. Most importantly, they are not subject to the corrupting influence of Chaos, arguably the root cause of the tragic history of the humans and the Eldar. They were originally intended to be the "good guys" of the setting. However, fans felt the Tau were too likeable for the grim setting, so later editions introduced some darker aspects, such as the mind-control powers of the Ethereals and their habit of exterminating conquered populations that stubbornly refuse to integrate into the Greater Good."
Not a very well-written passage, but it will suffice for a start. First off, what's so wonderful about the Roman empire? They were savage murderers who brutalized the Mediterranean world for centuries, torturing thousand upon thousands of humans to death in the most gruesome and public manner imaginable just to display their power. The Roman empire was grimdark indeed, and a much greater inspiration behind the Imperium of Man than the Tau Empire. But you knew this already because High Gothic is represented in fluff as Latin to reflect the Imperium's stark, obvious, undeniable Latin influences.
Simon Spurrier's Xenology explains that the Tau ethereal caste controls the minds of other Tau through use of pheromones. This pheromonal control is possible through use of an organ that the Tau "borrowed" from an alien species called the Q'orl before reverse-engineering it to suit Tau physiology. They serve the "greater good" because they have no choice and little capacity for independent thought, and the "greater good" is whatever the Ethereals want it to be.
More importantly, the Tau exterminate any sentient who does not submit to their hierarchy. Not very noble, liberal, open-minded or respectful of life if you ask me.
I am very sorry that your precious Tau are not as noble as they seemed when GW introduced them to the 40K setting. But the 40k setting is grim and dark. The grimdarkness rubs off on everybody, and nobody comes out clean.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/08/16 08:59:34
Killsmith wrote: The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
Source? Because I have to read any official publication that had anything but: - Tau value everybody, from Gue-Vesa to Commander Shadowsun, equally - Tau treat aliens quite well, and even allow conquered races to govern themselves, so long as they provide auxiliary forces for the Tau Legio - I mean Fire Warriors. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire - Tau have many vassal states (lotsa them, seriously, at least 15 worlds, probably twice that, of vassal states. This doesn't even include the former Imperial Worlds). Add that to the 21 worlds directly ruled by the Tau, and you have a fairly formidable state. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire - The Tau maintain a caste system that is composed of five sub-species. Within each caste, a caste member could be a lowly worker or a great leader, however, caste does not determine rank within society (aside from Ethereal. Ethereal and non-Ethereal does determine rank within society, but that's the only exception). The early Roman Empire maintained a caste system (of sorts), as well, with Plebians and Patricians. - The Tau maintain a technologically advanced and culturally developed Empire, and are rapidly expanding. This is a characteristic they share with the early Roman Empire.
I don't know where you got this oppression bs from, but the Tau are the opposite of oppressive. They have planets that are known for being highly cultured, especially well-educated, highly artistic and poetic or even lazy. Seriously, where is your source for the oppression? Headcanon?
The tau are more like the Ottoman empire. They allow you to keep your religion but you will never truly do anything of worth if you don't convert, although you can join their elite military branch (firewarriors). They expect you to eventually change religions. They allowed people of many religions and races to stay under their banner. The roman republic had a wide range of slavery for the nations that lost. Only wealth romans have really ever been allowed to vote the closest it come to a true republic would be Julius Caesar before the roman empire. I love rome but I would say the imperium is more roman especially late roman republic/empire. They even have the catholic church. Also the tau have devices in everyone's brains so if they disobey they die. I would call that pretty oppressive if you ask me.
Spoiler:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Farsight_Enclaves Also seeing as yellow is the tau's main color I don't think they would fair well unless they were all married women or virgins seeing as far as I recall that was what the color was reserved for in the roman empire/ republic.
This message was edited 11 times. Last update was at 2015/08/16 09:41:55
If you don't know anybody who is secretly Alpharius or Omegon, you probably are him.
Killsmith wrote: The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
The Tau won't blow up your home world because one person on the other side of the planet was a traitor. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't force you to work 16 hours a day in a factory with no safety regulations. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't draft you and send you to the front lines two weeks later with a weapon barely more powerful than a flashlight. The Imperium will.
The Tau will castrate you and dominate you with pheromones given of by their shady rulers the eternals. The imperium dose not
The Tau are xeno filth, the Imperium is not.
The Tau are cowards when it comes to close qurater combat, the Imperium is not
I don't know where you got this oppression bs from, but the Tau are the opposite of oppressive.
I think it's absolutely hilarious that you've worked yourself into such a screaming, raging, senseless, hysterical froth over a fictional alien race in a toy soldier game.
I can see you now, forehead soaked in sweat as tears stream down your face. "Tau... are... not... oppressive... you... heretic!!!" You scream as you slam your fist onto your keyboard, choking on your own bile as rage consumes you.
When you're feeling better, you might consider actually reading the wiki articles that you linked. A wiki should never be considered an authoritative source for anything because it is constructed by fans, but since you have chosen them as sources I think you should at least read them. They explain the dark side of the Tau canon very clearly.
From the Tau entry in the lexicanum:
In the dystopic Warhammer 40,000 universe, the Tau are the "least evil" race. They are more merciful, liberal, and progressive than the other races. They do not wish to exterminate other species, but integrate them into their empire. They have a thriving scientific tradition. Most importantly, they are not subject to the corrupting influence of Chaos, arguably the root cause of the tragic history of the humans and the Eldar. They were originally intended to be the "good guys" of the setting. However, fans felt the Tau were too likeable for the grim setting, so later editions introduced some darker aspects, such as the mind-control powers of the Ethereals and their habit of exterminating conquered populations that stubbornly refuse to integrate into the Greater Good."
Not a very well-written passage, but it will suffice for a start. First off, what's so wonderful about the Roman empire? They were savage murderers who brutalized the Mediterranean world for centuries, torturing thousand upon thousands of humans to death in the most gruesome and public manner imaginable just to display their power. The Roman empire was grimdark indeed, and a much greater inspiration behind the Imperium of Man than the Tau Empire. But you knew this already because High Gothic is represented in fluff as Latin to reflect the Imperium's stark, obvious, undeniable Latin influences.
Simon Spurrier's Xenology explains that the Tau ethereal caste controls the minds of other Tau through use of pheromones. This pheromonal control is possible through use of an organ that the Tau "borrowed" from an alien species called the Q'orl before reverse-engineering it to suit Tau physiology. They serve the "greater good" because they have no choice and little capacity for independent thought, and the "greater good" is whatever the Ethereals want it to be.
More importantly, the Tau exterminate any sentient who does not submit to their hierarchy. Not very noble, liberal, open-minded or respectful of life if you ask me.
I am very sorry that your precious Tau are not as noble as they seemed when GW introduced them to the 40K setting. But the 40k setting is grim and dark. The grimdarkness rubs off on everybody, and nobody comes out clean.
Well,I guess that's the first time I see a fresh faced newuser destroy someone like this. That being said, stop whorshipping Tau Empire like they are best good guys the Galaxy has never seen. They are a regional power with high ambitions and their goals are reached by the very simple tactic of "join us or die". On this basis, I really don't see how they would be better than the Imperium. People with Mary Sue Tau still in mind should update their knowledge to latest editions.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/16 10:24:58
No one deserves to win but I'm gonna say Tau, not for any of the reasons other people have posted but simply because they're the youngest race and therefore have had the least amount of time to be evil sods in.
The Tau are like any 21st century state really with first world access to technology. Sure you can sort of think to yourself but you're probably under some kind of surveillance. That ottoman comparison is pretty legit. I've always thought the Tau took a few Islamic influences from the whole desert tribal world getting untied under a religious banner and becoming powerful so quickly along with inheriting technology from the other groups it conquered. Look up the Abbasid empire and the Islamic golden age, it's pretty similar. Then you borrow reform era China (1980-today) and Japanese anime influences and bam. A pretty cool race.
But everybody calm down, it's a model game with a made up back story. Feel free to disagree. Ultimately an alien can't be a Japanese Muslim communist who fights aliens can he/she/it?
3000 - 天空人民军队
1500
2000+ - The Sun'zu Cadre.
2000 Pt of Genestealers
1500 Pt of Sisters
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
Furyou Miko wrote: The Tau will value you at the same level as their drones, which are only intelligent enough to consider running away if there are more than four of them in the area...
We've explained how compound words work, so you know that's not true.
Killsmith wrote: The Tau are really more representative of East Asian socialist governments like the Khmer Rouge, the Pathet Lao, the Democratic Republic of Korea, Maoist China and Vietnam. It's all bright and shiny happy people on the surface, but they are really only slightly less oppressive and terrifying than the Imperium.
The Tau won't blow up your home world because one person on the other side of the planet was a traitor. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't force you to work 16 hours a day in a factory with no safety regulations. The Imperium will.
The Tau won't draft you and send you to the front lines two weeks later with a weapon barely more powerful than a flashlight. The Imperium will.
The Tau will castrate you and dominate you with pheromones given of by their shady rulers the eternals. The imperium dose not
The Tau are xeno filth, the Imperium is not.
The Tau are cowards when it comes to close qurater combat, the Imperium is not
The Tau don't believe in wasting life, the Imperium does.
There is no castration in the Tau Empire and humans are immune to Ethereal influence. Sounds like a pretty good gig next to slaving in a mine or being given two weeks of training, a flashlight, and being shipped to fight the Tyranids.
Can you not see that the High lords care nothing for you? The Tau values humanity more than that.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/16 15:15:43
No, you've got this strange delusion in your head about compound words.
"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
I don't know where you got this oppression bs from, but the Tau are the opposite of oppressive.
I think it's absolutely hilarious that you've worked yourself into such a screaming, raging, senseless, hysterical froth over a fictional alien race in a toy soldier game.
I can see you now, forehead soaked in sweat as tears stream down your face. "Tau... are... not... oppressive... you... heretic!!!" You scream as you slam your fist onto your keyboard, choking on your own bile as rage consumes you.
When you're feeling better, you might consider actually reading the wiki articles that you linked. A wiki should never be considered an authoritative source for anything because it is constructed by fans, but since you have chosen them as sources I think you should at least read them. They explain the dark side of the Tau canon very clearly.
From the Tau entry in the lexicanum:
In the dystopic Warhammer 40,000 universe, the Tau are the "least evil" race. They are more merciful, liberal, and progressive than the other races. They do not wish to exterminate other species, but integrate them into their empire. They have a thriving scientific tradition. Most importantly, they are not subject to the corrupting influence of Chaos, arguably the root cause of the tragic history of the humans and the Eldar. They were originally intended to be the "good guys" of the setting. However, fans felt the Tau were too likeable for the grim setting, so later editions introduced some darker aspects, such as the mind-control powers of the Ethereals and their habit of exterminating conquered populations that stubbornly refuse to integrate into the Greater Good."
Not a very well-written passage, but it will suffice for a start. First off, what's so wonderful about the Roman empire? They were savage murderers who brutalized the Mediterranean world for centuries, torturing thousand upon thousands of humans to death in the most gruesome and public manner imaginable just to display their power. The Roman empire was grimdark indeed, and a much greater inspiration behind the Imperium of Man than the Tau Empire. But you knew this already because High Gothic is represented in fluff as Latin to reflect the Imperium's stark, obvious, undeniable Latin influences.
Simon Spurrier's Xenology explains that the Tau ethereal caste controls the minds of other Tau through use of pheromones. This pheromonal control is possible through use of an organ that the Tau "borrowed" from an alien species called the Q'orl before reverse-engineering it to suit Tau physiology. They serve the "greater good" because they have no choice and little capacity for independent thought, and the "greater good" is whatever the Ethereals want it to be.
More importantly, the Tau exterminate any sentient who does not submit to their hierarchy. Not very noble, liberal, open-minded or respectful of life if you ask me.
I am very sorry that your precious Tau are not as noble as they seemed when GW introduced them to the 40K setting. But the 40k setting is grim and dark. The grimdarkness rubs off on everybody, and nobody comes out clean.
Sweating and pounding on the keyboard? I've never gotten that worked up over an argument, not even even when it was face-to-face. I've reread what I said, and I was calling out bs, not typing "YOU'R SUCH A fething IDIOT, YOU'RE STUPID, YOU'RE OPINION IS STUPID, I DISAGREE, SO GO DIE IN A HOLE!!!" Seriously, you're trying to act all superior and high and mighty, but you're failing miserably. This is fun for me, arguing is fun. It might be my second favorite activity.
Also, Lexicanum is not a comprehensive source. It is a collection of information from other sources. Now, I asked for a source for the whole "extermination" thing, and you have yet to provide one that doesn't contradict itself a few paragraphs later. The sources that I am linking are collections of information, as well - however, I am providing many sources, which (mostly) support eachother.
Anyways, on to me using the same source that you used to prove you wrong...
The Tau are the most open and tolerant of the races in the galaxy, which means that they prefer not to destroy all other races on sight and are nowhere near as xenophobic as the Imperium. They are appreciative of the ways of the humans, Eldar, and other sentient races, but hold their own values as superior above all others.
Their tolerance also extends to themselves, as the Tau recognize even lowly Fio'la workers as being as important to the operation and well-being of the Empire as Shas'vre Battlesuit leaders or even the highest Aun'o.
The Greater Good, or "Tau'va," is the central philosophy that unites all Tau. It teaches that every sentient being is equal and plays an important part in Tau society. It tells its adherents to put away petty squabbles and unnecessary things to unite for the greater good of the rest of the race.
Most reports generally indicate that the human auxiliaries serving the Tau Empire are relatively well-treated, with many serving the Tau voluntarily
While on the surface the Tau may seem like wonderful altruists, especially when compared to the extremely brutal Imperium of Man, the fiction shows many sinister undertones. The Tau can be ruthless with alien cultures who don't fit in to their utopian society. Cultures which resist assimilation into the Tau Empire are subjugated by force. The Vespids, due to their insectoid mentality, could not relate to the Tau in any way until the Tau implanted "communication helms" into their brains, which then transformed them into compliant and model citizens.[5] Whilst many assimilated humans do enjoy more liberties and comforts than they did under Imperium rule, those who stubbornly resist are sometimes interred in re-education camps or subjected to sterilization programs.[6]
This here is a perfect example of brainwashing. It could be considered a form of genocide, but it is still a leg up over mass extermination. Every government in the world using brain washing to a certain extent, though, for some, it might just be propaganda, while, for others, it might be mass societal reeducation.
I direct you to the following threads that discuss the topic of Tau treatment of aliens within their Empire:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?107273-Humans-within-the-Tau-Empire - this one has lots of official fluff listed in it about the horrible things the Tau have done, and most of it has little ground to stand on. Even the mass sterilization thing (from DoW, which is an unreliable source, at best) was just conjecture on why the human population of a Tau world was decreasing.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/943419-warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-soulstorm/42016118?page=8 - this here is a lengthy thread, so I've skipped a few pages. Read the whole thing if you want, but the link will take you to page 9, wherein lots of good information regarding the Tau Empire's treatment of aliens is. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but it's a very interesting argument.
More importantly, the Tau exterminate any sentient who does not submit to their hierarchy. Not very noble, liberal, open-minded or respectful of life if you ask me.
.
I say again, source. Please. No official canon that I or any of my friends has read has ever mentioned this. My cousin plays Tau, has Codices from several editions, and has read all of their novels, played DoW, and has yet to hear about mass extermination. Please enlighten me, oh wise one. With a source.
Simon Spurrier's Xenology explains that the Tau ethereal caste controls the minds of other Tau through use of pheromones. This pheromonal control is possible through use of an organ that the Tau "borrowed" from an alien species called the Q'orl before reverse-engineering it to suit Tau physiology. They serve the "greater good" because they have no choice and little capacity for independent thought, and the "greater good" is whatever the Ethereals want it to be.
Xenology is written through the perspective of an Inquisitor, not the God-Emperor or the Laughing God (arguably omniscient beings, who would actually be solid sources for this kind of thing). He believes that the Ethereals use pheromonal mind control, but it doesn't make much sense for them to have reverse-engineered an organ from another species when the the Ethereals emerged during the equivalent of the Tau Dark Ages
Not a very well-written passage, but it will suffice for a start. First off, what's so wonderful about the Roman empire? They were savage murderers who brutalized the Mediterranean world for centuries, torturing thousand upon thousands of humans to death in the most gruesome and public manner imaginable just to display their power. The Roman empire was grimdark indeed, and a much greater inspiration behind the Imperium of Man than the Tau Empire. But you knew this already because High Gothic is represented in fluff as Latin to reflect the Imperium's stark, obvious, undeniable Latin influences.
Somebody disputed my observation of the Tau's similarities to the early Roman Republic, I was just listing some obvious similarities.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I play Space Marines/Inquisition. Not Tau. This should have been obvious from my rank and profile picture.
This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2015/08/16 20:59:11
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
2BlackJack1 wrote: Like the title says which race/faction deserves to be the winner in the End Times of 40k? Now, please keep fanboyism on the down low, and it doesn't matter how improbable the faction is to win, just if you want them to. So, who should be the lucky weiner to rule the galaxy?
The Imperium, who have had an undisputed rule and have fallen to decay and rule through fear, superstition, and oppression?
The Orks, who live to fight and want nothing more?
The Tyranids, who have to fight on for their next meal, where defeat means starvation, and yet victory means the death of all other life?
The Craftworlds/Not Dark Eldar (not too good with Eldar fluff) who try to follow their Paths and want to reclaim their old empire?
The Dark Eldar, who live on in hedonism and aren't willing to change, but continue on with their vile tasks?
The Necrons, who have recently awoken to find their galaxy torn by war and also have an empire to reclaim?
The Tau, the newcomers who seek to conquer and assimilate the others into their own ranks?
Chaos, who in its fractured and infighting wish to topple the Imperium and have endless souls at their disposal? (Depends on which part of Chaos you're talking about, I guess)
None, they are all awful and don't deserve the right to rule?
All the xenoforms not completely annihilated by the Imperial forces during in the Great Crusade.
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
Furyou Miko wrote: No, you've got this strange delusion in your head about compound words.
Maybe you should go back to school for Japanese.
Drones don't have ranks. They're drones. A human with rank gets a rank assigned. Gue'vesa'la. Gue'vesa aren't soldiers, just friendly humans, just like drones are friendly machines. 'kor isn't a rank when applied to Mal for vespid.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/17 04:54:18
- 22nd Rhayé Storm Division : 2000points (Spetsnaz-themed IG)
- Ordo Xenos : ~700pts
3000 - 天空人民军队
1500
2000+ - The Sun'zu Cadre.
I've never gotten that worked up over an argument, not even even when it was face-to-face. I've reread what I said, and I was calling out 
Squats 
