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Hi all,

Well, I am 3D printing and painting another Godzilla model. This one is Shin Godzilla, from the 2016 movie.




Spoiler:


I just have the left food done so far.



Size reference with a Space Marine Scout.



The shiny grey patches are photosensitive resin, the kind I use for printing minis on my resin printer. For this model, I use it for two things: the first is to fill in seams when the seams are nice and tight - I just dab a little resin in there and blast it with that UV flashlight for a few seconds. Bigger gaps, I must use greenstuff.


Q&A:

Wait, this was an actual Godzilla?
Yeah, gak's wild. I saw it in theaters here. I think the movie was an analogy for Fukushima, because the big theme was that the government was paralyzed to do anything in the face of a national emergency. I dunno, ask Manchu for a correct answer - most of the allegories go over my head.

How big will this print be?
508 mm tall, 424 mm wide, 638 mm deep. To convert croissants per socialism into freedoms per gunpowder, you get about 20 inches tall, 17 inches wide, 25 inches long. This would make him the largest of the 3, as you can see by that big ass foot - the Heisei Godzilla next to him is 382 mm tall, 330 mm wide, 453 mm deep / 15 inches tall, 13 inches wide, 18 inches long.

That is roughly accurate to the movies - until the 2019 Godzilla, Shin Godzilla was the biggest non-animated one.

Spoiler:


How long will it take? How much filament?
I don't know, I didn't really keep good track of the print estimates the slicer threw out there. I probably should have, but no going back now. I can say that there are 3 body sections estimated to take about 3 days each, and then the tail sections are about 2 days each, and I didn't yet slice the spine plates... let's call it a month, month and a half of continuously printing at 0.1. I would guess maybe 3 rolls of PLA - so about $30 in material. Maybe less.

The head and hands will be printed at the same as the other parts are printing. Maybe 10 hours for the head, 3 or 4 for the hands.

Where did you get the model? How much did it cost?
I bought it from Gambody, and there is a half-off sale, so I paid $12.50.

What kind of printer are you using?
I use two printers - an Anycubic I3 Mega, which is a FDM (plastic) printer. That will do 90% of the model. However, the focal points I prefer finer quality, so I will print the head and hands with a DLP (resin) printer, an Anycubic Photon.

How likely are you to abandon this project, and thread, unfinished?
Not very, weirdly. I seem to be able to bring these home.

Where do you store these when you are done?
On the floor in the corner of the hobby room, since I don't have a display case big enough to put them in. Pretty lame but I have not yet come up with a better idea.

Why do keep making these?
I don't know.



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 Ouze wrote:
Why do keep making these?
I don't know.


Well I'm happy to watch the fruits of your sickness grow, so bring it on

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 Ouze wrote:
Why do keep making these?
I don't know.


Well I'm happy to watch the fruits of your sickness grow, so bring it on





Keep it up sir. I like the one on the right in the photo. Do you have more pictures from different angles?
I <3 godzilla!!!

I have to say the 1998 one with jean reno was probs my favourite looking one.

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 Argive wrote:
I like the one on the right in the photo. Do you have more pictures from different angles?


I do.

Hybrid Godzilla - this one was kind of a middle ground between the 2000 Millenium Godzilla and the 2014 Legendary Godzilla.

Heisei Godzilla - this is the one from the mid-80s to the mid-90s.


 Argive wrote:
I have to say the 1998 one with jean reno was probs my favourite looking one.


Spoiler:

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Awesome! I saw that movie on a plane flight and found it rather enjoyable. The Godzilla (fully formed) and all of its weapons were pretty spectacular. Can't wait to see this one.

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 Ouze wrote:
 Argive wrote:
I like the one on the right in the photo. Do you have more pictures from different angles?


I do.

Hybrid Godzilla - this one was kind of a middle ground between the 2000 Millenium Godzilla and the 2014 Legendary Godzilla.

Heisei Godzilla - this is the one from the mid-80s to the mid-90s.


 Argive wrote:
I have to say the 1998 one with jean reno was probs my favourite looking one.


Spoiler:


What can I say...

Nice thansk for the link. I think its been asked before but how much did he weight once complete ?

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I really like how the Heisei mini came out. The Millenial Godzila looks pretty good, too, but I am biased towards his earlier appearances.

So when will you make a Showa Godzilla, and which incarnation will you choose? (I'm a fan of the Terror of Mechagodzilla Godzilla suit.)


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Oh, and excellent paintwork.

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You absolute mad man!

Love your efforts, mate. G is one of my all time favourite things and I love seeing him rendered in all his glory as a (not so) miniature.



Can your printer really work constantly like that for a month without burning out, so to speak? Because that seems like a massive strain to put on it.

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Argive wrote:I think its been asked before but how much did he weight once complete ?


Oh snap. Glad you mentioned that because it was asked and I never answered in the previous thread (oops).

Heisei godzilla is 58oz / 163
Hybrid Godzilla is 43oz / 128g

They're roughly the same size, but because they don't have the same infill percentage, they're not equally dense. Less infill is better because it's less plastic used / faster print times, but it's also less strong and stable.


Snrub wrote:Can your printer really work constantly like that for a month without burning out, so to speak? Because that seems like a massive strain to put on it.


Good question. The answer is "we're gonna find out together"

I truthfully have no idea. The Hybrid Godzilla print was probably running about a month straight with virtually no breaks in between other than letting the bed cool off so parts could be easily removed... but I imagine anything that is hot with moving parts is going to break at some point.

The printer is more of a platform than a cohesive unit, though, if that makes sense? I already broke one build plate and got it replaced under warranty but it would have run about $25. That is, I think, the component most likely to break and while it's a bit of a hassle to replace, it's not exactly undoable - I already did it once and it took about an hour. If the hot end burns out, that's a $25 part. If the power supply dies, that's a $32 part, the extruder is $25-$45 - and so on, and so forth.

The resin printer needs to have the screens replaced every so often as a part of normal use, they are considered a consumable. They go around $40.

But even if it wasn't modular like that, it wouldn't matter because an entire new printer is $280 when they are on sale, and they are all the time, and even if I killed one every 6 months and had to replace I would still keep printing these goddamn Godzillas because for some reason this is a thing I do and $600 a year is a price I am willing to pay to obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul.

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Huge Toho/Goji fan here. I definitely approve of what you're doing. Have you considered doing prints of other Toho Kaiju like King Ghidorah, Rodan, Mothra, or Gigan? I'd love to see these done in a scale for Titanicus. Would be really neat to do some custom rules for the Toho crew.

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 Ouze wrote:
The answer is "we're gonna find out together"
Good answer.


$600 a year is a price I am willing to pay to obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul.
It's a price I too am willing to have you payl, to see this magnificent beasts come to resiny life!

But that's an interesting breakdown of potential costs. I don't know much about 3D printers, but they are the sort of thing I expected that if one thing broke, the whole thing went in the bin and you bought a new one. I'm surprised to see that they are so modular, as you put it.


Super interested to see this one through to the finish line though. More Godzillas are never a bad thing.

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Some thoughts after seeing Shingoji for the first time at the cinema:
Spoiler:
Shin Godzilla is the most authentic successor to Honda Ishiro's film simply because it does not take the eponymous creature for granted. In the several previous reboots, from both sides of the Pacific, each new incarnation of Godzilla may be mysterious to the films' characters but the monster is already familiar to the audience. This is because past reboots have treated Godzilla as more of a character and less of a symbol.

By contrast, 'Shingoji' is not a character. Its thoughts and emotions, if it has any, are as totally inscrutable as its motives. And unlike in many past Godzilla films, the human characters do not evaluate the creature on those terms. Why would they? Shingoji most obviously stands in for natural disasters; the 2011 Triple Disaster specifically. Do you ask an earthquake what it wants? Do you wonder if a nuclear meltdown experiences unhappiness? No, you just do everything you can to end the crisis and mitigate the damage. But is that all there is to Shingoji?

The creature is actually an 'empty signifier' for the mounting dangers threatening contemporary Japan. It isn't as simple as equating a suddenly humongous Godzilla to, say, a suddenly rich and influential China or a suddenly vulnerable United States. Shingoji could as easily stand in for the simmering movement to amend the Japanese constitution to allow for a more robust military. The monster is big enough to represent whatever issue. The high level point is, problems escalate in a seemingly abrupt way, just as the monster surprisingly evolves into more terrible forms. And, more importantly, escalation seems so abrupt because the institutional structures set up to manage problems inherently struggle to keep up.

The movie is overwhelmingly invested in government and bureaucracy. Even the scale of the monster itself is established relative to the hugely complicated systems of law and policy leveraged to deal with it and which make the creature and the havoc it wreaks even more difficult to manage - and yet, paradoxically, manageable at all. In this sense, this is not really a film about a monster attacking Tokyo so much as how modern governments process the challenges facing them: how the regime in power is only ever ready to fight the last war, as opposed to the next one. The haunting final scene promises our heroes' hard-won playbook will not suffice in the future.

Despite its heavy thematics, Shin Godzilla breezes through its two first acts on elegant, dry humor and Sagisu Shiro's tremendously engaging soundtrack. Unfortunately, the film has trouble moving past its expository talkiness to climactic action. The denouement relies more on off-screen/montaged political and logistical wrangling than physical confrontation with the monster. Even in the aftermath, we are left with the protagonists still babbling on and on. Without the threat, these characters and their dialogue don't hold up. But perhaps that is another theme: it's the danger that makes the hero.

Although not without serious flaws, Shin Godzilla is probably the very best Godzilla film possible in 2016. It is self-aware without being self-conscious. It has gravity but not at the expense of charm. Most importantly, it demonstrates that the franchise still has artistic and social relevance rather than being just another established property trotted out because no one has new ideas. Shin Godzilla takes risks that pan out more often than not.
Just for contemplation as you work on this project. I need hardly say I am really excited to see your progress!

   
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Darth Bob wrote: Have you considered doing prints of other Toho Kaiju like King Ghidorah, Rodan, Mothra, or Gigan? I'd love to see these done in a scale for Titanicus. Would be really neat to do some custom rules for the Toho crew.


That's totally an option: the license for the models allows for 3 prints, so I could run off more if I liked. They also include options that are chopped up differently - each model you buy comes with actually 3 different breakdowns of the mode: one is optimized for a plastic (FDM) printer, with the assumption you have a print bed of around 200mm or so. There is also one optimized for resin (DLP) printers, which is much smaller, hollowed out, and chopped into less pieces with an eye towards orienting them for removing supports. Long story short printing them in resin on a much smaller scale is very doable.

Not all of them are available, though. The only Mothra is the old larvae version, and the only Ghidorah is Mecha-King Ghidorah. There is totes a Rodan, but I haven't bought him even though he is my favorite kaiju due to some logistical problems - he is posed with his wings out like he is hitting the high notes at the climax of a power ballad, which means at the same scale as my Godzillae... he is gonna be like 3 feet wide. I have no place to put that. Gigan on the other hand looks good (although no buzzsaw), I just have not gotten to him yet.

These would all be a little more practical to do at the Titanicus scale, especially Rodan.

Also, I keep linking to Gambody because well, that is where the models came from. I'd like to make clear I'm not shilling for them; I don't know these guys and I sure don't get anything from them. If the models were on Thingiverse, I would point you there instead... and I do for Battlemechs, which are nearly always available free on Thingiverse. Just mentioning that since I've dropped a lot of links in this thread.



Manchu wrote:Speak of the devil and he shall appear.

Some thoughts after seeing Shingoji for the first time at the cinema:
Spoiler:
Shin Godzilla is the most authentic successor to Honda Ishiro's film simply because it does not take the eponymous creature for granted. In the several previous reboots, from both sides of the Pacific, each new incarnation of Godzilla may be mysterious to the films' characters but the monster is already familiar to the audience. This is because past reboots have treated Godzilla as more of a character and less of a symbol.

By contrast, 'Shingoji' is not a character. Its thoughts and emotions, if it has any, are as totally inscrutable as its motives. And unlike in many past Godzilla films, the human characters do not evaluate the creature on those terms. Why would they? Shingoji most obviously stands in for natural disasters; the 2011 Triple Disaster specifically. Do you ask an earthquake what it wants? Do you wonder if a nuclear meltdown experiences unhappiness? No, you just do everything you can to end the crisis and mitigate the damage. But is that all there is to Shingoji?

The creature is actually an 'empty signifier' for the mounting dangers threatening contemporary Japan. It isn't as simple as equating a suddenly humongous Godzilla to, say, a suddenly rich and influential China or a suddenly vulnerable United States. Shingoji could as easily stand in for the simmering movement to amend the Japanese constitution to allow for a more robust military. The monster is big enough to represent whatever issue. The high level point is, problems escalate in a seemingly abrupt way, just as the monster surprisingly evolves into more terrible forms. And, more importantly, escalation seems so abrupt because the institutional structures set up to manage problems inherently struggle to keep up.

The movie is overwhelmingly invested in government and bureaucracy. Even the scale of the monster itself is established relative to the hugely complicated systems of law and policy leveraged to deal with it and which make the creature and the havoc it wreaks even more difficult to manage - and yet, paradoxically, manageable at all. In this sense, this is not really a film about a monster attacking Tokyo so much as how modern governments process the challenges facing them: how the regime in power is only ever ready to fight the last war, as opposed to the next one. The haunting final scene promises our heroes' hard-won playbook will not suffice in the future.

Despite its heavy thematics, Shin Godzilla breezes through its two first acts on elegant, dry humor and Sagisu Shiro's tremendously engaging soundtrack. Unfortunately, the film has trouble moving past its expository talkiness to climactic action. The denouement relies more on off-screen/montaged political and logistical wrangling than physical confrontation with the monster. Even in the aftermath, we are left with the protagonists still babbling on and on. Without the threat, these characters and their dialogue don't hold up. But perhaps that is another theme: it's the danger that makes the hero.

Although not without serious flaws, Shin Godzilla is probably the very best Godzilla film possible in 2016. It is self-aware without being self-conscious. It has gravity but not at the expense of charm. Most importantly, it demonstrates that the franchise still has artistic and social relevance rather than being just another established property trotted out because no one has new ideas. Shin Godzilla takes risks that pan out more often than not.
Just for contemplation as you work on this project. I need hardly say I am really excited to see your progress!



Thank you for posting that. After reading, I think I will likely re-watch it again tonight.

Also, kind of a weird note, but one of the things I like the most about the movie is they do some novelty camera shots. A good example is docking a camera behind the siren of an emergency vehicle and then shooting from that POV. I don't really think I've seen that in other movies. They do it again at the end with the trains iirc.

Anyway, here is where I am so far:

Here is the tail. It's still not done! There are 9 tail sections, and these are the last 6. The first 3 are fatter and longer so there is still a lot more tail to go.

Spoiler:


If you look carefully, you can see my Pile of Shame in the reflection on the glass. I don't want to talk about that.

Size reference with Pete the Panicking SM Scout:

Spoiler:


For at least a month, "this much is printed now" is going to be the only kind of update.

Also, had my first clog! 13 hours into the 3rd tail section, it was printing a bunch of weedy nonsense. I posted a picture on the printer's FB forums, and they advised it was a partial clog (if it has been printing nothing at all, i would have figured it out on my own - but it was printing the skin but not the supports which was weird). Easy fix, just gotta get the nozzle up to heat and then ream it out with an acupuncture needle. 13 hours wasted though, but in the scheme of things, eh.





   
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That thing is actually fething huge.

I also look forward to a month of printed bits.

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You sir, are mad. In all the right ways.

Technical 3D printing question:

On filament prints, how do you deal with the layer lines on parts you can’t sand? Such as the rough hide of Godzilla? Is basic primer enough to hide them? What steps do you take to get it from printer to painted? Is there something you can tweak in the print besides layer height to minimize them? Such as boosting the temp?

Just getting into 3d printing, trying to figure this out myself.

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Wow, this is amazing. Really interested in the sort of pitfalls you face with this sort of project.

   
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 Nevelon wrote:
Technical 3D printing question:

On filament prints, how do you deal with the layer lines on parts you can’t sand? Such as the rough hide of Godzilla? Is basic primer enough to hide them? What steps do you take to get it from printer to painted? Is there something you can tweak in the print besides layer height to minimize them? Such as boosting the temp?


You have a couple of options in addition to sanding, none of which are super ideal.

If you print at 0.1 the lines are pretty minimal. You can just use regular primer, which I did for the first one - Vallejo via an airbrush. This is the easiest but also gives the "worst" results, the first Godzilla has the most obvious layer lines. They're still not that bad and for some projects, like the Groot I printed, they actually make the final product look better - for anything wood based, anyway.

You can print at 0.1 and use Rustoleum high level filler primer. I did this with my second Godzilla and I think it works pretty well. It's not perfect, but I am happy with it. You get markedly less visible layer lines. You have to be careful with this, though, because it's a spray can you can obliterate detail if you don't use a light hand with it.

Smooth-on sells a thin epoxy you can mop over your print to fill in lines. This would be ideal for some stuff, but is really going to obliterate fine detail if present. I have not used it but I could see it being perfect for the right project.

Finally, you can print in ABS and use cold acetone mist to smooth your parts. This works well, although it does melt the finest details, and I think it can turn your house into a firebomb if you screw it up. I have not tried this, although I have used acetone to chemically weld ABS parts together.

   
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Thanks for the tips. I think I might go looking for that primer, see if it helps.

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 Nevelon wrote:
Thanks for the tips. I think I might go looking for that primer, see if it helps.


I got mine at Autozone fwiw.
   
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Manchu wrote:Some thoughts after seeing Shingoji for the first time at the cinema ............
I really appreciate that write up, and it makes me want to see the film again too. I went into it excited because a) Godzilla and b) Hideaki Anno (Eva is pretty much my favorite anime ever), and left sorta shrugging at the plot and more bemused by Shin Godzilla's design(s). I think you're right on about it's markedly different treatment of Godzilla The Icon, particularly as I have the latest King of Monsters on my mind still.
Ouze wrote:Gigan on the other hand looks good (although no buzzsaw), I just have not gotten to him yet.
Nice Gigan!

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Update on printing progress. It's going to be at least a few more weeks with only printing type progress, unfortunately.

The fattest tail section took a little over 61 hours:

Spoiler:


But it's not the length, it's the girth:

Spoiler:


Note that this is the first time you see the bottom of a print, which has hideous texturing - on a finished model you will never see the bottom part of any print and I take pains to orient the parts to make the bottoms hard to see. That rough texture is terrific as a bonding service for superglue, though!

I believe the entire tail is complete now (although there are 2 seams I need to patch):

Spoiler:


This is a bit premature but... for painting, I was thinking about priming, and then basecoating him via airbrush in a molten red-orange, and then drybrushing brown and then a light dusting of black. The fins would be glowing purple. I am worred about the paint scheme because I've never done anything like that before - going for kind of a subdued Avatar of Khaine look, and I've seen a lot badly done Avatar of Khaines and have no wish to repeat those mistakes. I better do some research.

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Holy!!! that is massive! Going to look awesome freaking awesome when assembled fully i'm sure.

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fething Hell! That thing is bloody massive!

I'd for sure be trying that colour scheme out on a tester mini first! Not the sort of thing you want to bugger up on something of that size. If only for the fact it took you a month to make.

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Every time I see this thread update, I hear a Godzilla roar.

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I’m American and still said “Fething A!” Out loud when I saw that tail section, much less the whole tail. That’s a whole new scale of chaos Titan for apocalypse .

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 Snrub wrote:
I'd for sure be trying that colour scheme out on a tester mini first! Not the sort of thing you want to bugger up on something of that size. If only for the fact it took you a month to make.


Good call. I have a Hybrid Godzilla head I printed as an FDM printer test I better try it on.
   
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Holy gak that thing is MASSIVE. How heavy does it end up being?

   
 
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