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A pyrovore formation with an apocalypse template would be fun with a 3 model clampack for pyrovores and biovores.

Well Tau should be next but I heard they got pushed back now - not sure what's going to happen with SoB. There will probably be some more new supplements as well.

If and when Tyranids get a new codex I hope it's more balanced and doesn't have to heavily rely upon flying circus to be competitive. I'm all for a great codex.

Just remember as much as this codex is codex hive tyrant the last one was codex tervigon

Well, for starters, it is going to be quite a bit thicker, considering just how many units have been added to the army.

'ello guys, I've got a bit of a debarkle.
I've never particpated in a tournament, but there's one coming up in the next few weeks.
An 800 point game with no formations or escalation.
I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out what I should take out of the units I have.
A trygon.
A hive tyrant.
three tyrant guard.
Twenty termagants.
ten Hormagaunts.
Three ripper bases.
A carnifex.
A tyrannofex.

Apologies for the silly question, but I'd like y'all's opinion.

 the shrouded lord wrote:
'ello guys, I've got a bit of a debarkle.
I've never particpated in a tournament, but there's one coming up in the next few weeks.
An 800 point game with no formations or escalation.
I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out what I should take out of the units I have.
A trygon.
A hive tyrant.
three tyrant guard.
Twenty termagants.
ten Hormagaunts.
Three ripper bases.
A carnifex.
A tyrannofex.

Apologies for the silly question, but I'd like y'all's opinion.

If Tyrant has wings, I'd definitely take that, preferably with Devourers. Same with the carnifex, Devourers are nice. Other than that Rippers and Tyrannofex are big useful, I'd take 3x3 rippers and a TFex with Acid Spray and Electroshock grubs

 the shrouded lord wrote:
'ello guys, I've got a bit of a debarkle.
I've never particpated in a tournament, but there's one coming up in the next few weeks.
An 800 point game with no formations or escalation.
I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out what I should take out of the units I have.
A trygon.
A hive tyrant.
three tyrant guard.
Twenty termagants.
ten Hormagaunts.
Three ripper bases.
A carnifex.
A tyrannofex.

Apologies for the silly question, but I'd like y'all's opinion.

Ok, here is something that should work for you fairly well, provided you have your models geared correctly.

1 Hive Tyrant with Wings, 2 sets of Twin Linked Devoured with Brainleech Worms, Electroshock Grubs.
10 Termagants
3 Ripper Swarms with Deep Strike
1 Carnifex with 2 sets of Twin Linked Devoured with Brainleech Worms
1 Mawloc (proxy or head swap, the 2 are nearly identical)
1 Tyrannofex with Electroshock Grubs

And this should be fairly effective for you.

If you can pick up a tyranocyte for your tyrannofex you'll scare the crap outta whatever it lands near

guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


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sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


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sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

Unless you have someone of bringing reserves in by the end of Turn 1 then no.

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


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sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

Nids have no way to be completely null deployed without some sort of other faction helping out.

But hey, hide a couple of Spore Mines somewhere and you're good to go

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

You mean the second part? I edited that... game turn isn't any player turn? I mean, your turn, your opponent's turn, both are player turns

Wallur wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

You mean the second part? I edited that... game turn isn't any player turn? I mean, your turn, your opponent's turn, both are player turns

A game turn is both your and yours opponent's turn. For example, your first turn and your opponent's first turn make the first game turn.

 Tyran wrote:

Spoiler:

Wallur wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

You mean the second part? I edited that... game turn isn't any player turn? I mean, your turn, your opponent's turn, both are player turns

A game turn is both your and yours opponent's turn. For example, your first turn and your opponent's first turn make the first game turn.

Oh, Thank You !

So If I go 2nd, and my enemy kills everything on his 2nd turn, I have to roll for reserves on my 2nd turn (after his 2nd turn) and got some units enter from reserves, and I end my 2nd turn with units on the table, so the 2nd Game Turn I end it with units on the board and don't get tabled?

Wallur wrote:

 Tyran wrote:

Spoiler:

Wallur wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

You mean the second part? I edited that... game turn isn't any player turn? I mean, your turn, your opponent's turn, both are player turns

A game turn is both your and yours opponent's turn. For example, your first turn and your opponent's first turn make the first game turn.

Oh, Thank You !

So If I go 2nd, and my enemy kills everything on his 2nd turn, I have to roll for reserves on my 2nd turn (after his 2nd turn) and got some units enter from reserves, and I end my 2nd turn with units on the table, so the 2nd Game Turn I end it with units on the board and don't get tabled?

Correct.

And there is no longer any limits to how many models you can have in reserve.

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

 Tyran wrote:

Spoiler:

Wallur wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:

Wallur wrote:

TNasty wrote:
guys i have a question, can a player start 1th turn without nothing in the table or he have to deploy something ? if someone start with all on reserv he lose automatically ?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
sry if i ask all here but i like to talk with tyranids player haha

First, you can't leave all on reserves, you have to deploy half your units and half on reserves at maximum (excluding the ones that must enter via DS or from reserves, like Tyrannocyte)

Second, you lose if you have nothing on the table, So if you end a turn with nothing on the table, you lose.

That was 6th edition. And its only ending a game turn now, not player turn.

You mean the second part? I edited that... game turn isn't any player turn? I mean, your turn, your opponent's turn, both are player turns

A game turn is both your and yours opponent's turn. For example, your first turn and your opponent's first turn make the first game turn.

Oh, Thank You !

So If I go 2nd, and my enemy kills everything on his 2nd turn, I have to roll for reserves on my 2nd turn (after his 2nd turn) and got some units enter from reserves, and I end my 2nd turn with units on the table, so the 2nd Game Turn I end it with units on the board and don't get tabled?

Correct.

And there is no longer any limits to how many models you can have in reserve.

Oh, also true... thing was that some times I read the rules from Tyranid Codex 6th ed, (since I had that at hand) and I read it from there, forgot what I read from the 7th ed BRB.
Thank you for correcting that.

With all the mix-up that is going on with the codex, has anyone looked at genestealer heavy armies again lately?

I ran my 70 stealer list against Daemonkin the other week. That was an absolute bloodbath, but I just managed to win the game turn 6 because of a unit of ObSec stealers

Eldercaveman wrote:
I ran my 70 stealer list against Daemonkin the other week. That was an absolute bloodbath, but I just managed to win the game turn 6 because of a unit of ObSec stealers

Sweet, that must have looked spectacular on the table. Did you run formations or just a CAD?

Can anyone sell me on the Tyranofex?
Like the model but on the table he seems like an expensive waste of time.

 dan2026 wrote:
Can anyone sell me on the Tyranofex?
Like the model but on the table he seems like an expensive waste of time.

The Tyrannofex is, in my opinion, the best Heavy support we have. Combination of high toughness, wounds, and 2+ save makes him incredibly hard to kill, an absolute brick for under $2.00. He can take electroshock Grubs, the best 10 points in the game, as well as being able to get in a Tyrannocyte where he can easily double-flame any troops on an objective. At this point he is killing troops, in cover, in your opponents backfield and most likely won't die. Perfect for clearing off objectives and sitting on them, or claiming Linebreaker, or finishing off a Vehicle with his Grubs. I use one in every game now that the Tyrannocyte is back, and I'll tell you how he does at the ATC this weekend.

 jifel wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Can anyone sell me on the Tyranofex?
Like the model but on the table he seems like an expensive waste of time.

The Tyrannofex is, in my opinion, the best Heavy support we have. Combination of high toughness, wounds, and 2+ save makes him incredibly hard to kill, an absolute brick for under $2.00. He can take electroshock Grubs, the best 10 points in the game, as well as being able to get in a Tyrannocyte where he can easily double-flame any troops on an objective. At this point he is killing troops, in cover, in your opponents backfield and most likely won't die. Perfect for clearing off objectives and sitting on them, or claiming Linebreaker, or finishing off a Vehicle with his Grubs. I use one in every game now that the Tyrannocyte is back, and I'll tell you how he does at the ATC this weekend.

Cool thanks.

Do you run him with Acid Spray or Fleshborer Hive?
I cant see the Rupture Cannon being worth it.

Edit: I see you say double template. That make sense.

I'm new, and curious about the weapons for the tyrannocyte, is it really worth paying for venom or stranglethorn cannons? Since it's BS 2 and instinctive fire, that could be a big scatter and end up anywhere, deathspitters they could be 25 shots on a 5+
What do you use with your Tyrannocyte?

A TFex with Egrubs and Acid Spray ignores all cover saves so for each hit with each of them (assuming you drop them in the same place) you average 0.75 wounds per model hit.

Against eldar or ravenwing you will kill 2.25 if you hit a full squad of 3 with both templates. We don't have anything else that can do that at range

barnowl wrote:

Eldercaveman wrote:
I ran my 70 stealer list against Daemonkin the other week. That was an absolute bloodbath, but I just managed to win the game turn 6 because of a unit of ObSec stealers

Sweet, that must have looked spectacular on the table. Did you run formations or just a CAD?

Yeah it's basically Leviathan, so 9 troop Genestealers, then the Manafactorum Stealers, 3 Flyrants, and a Malonthrope or Venomthrope.

None of your Genestealers would have had ObSec. ObSec only comes with the CAD or Skyblight

 Frozocrone wrote:
None of your Genestealers would have had ObSec. ObSec only comes with the CAD or Skyblight

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Sorry that was a bit of a quick post fail, the original list used just Leviathan, but now some tournaments around here have begun allowing 3 sources it's evolved into this...


CAD

Flyrant, Electro, Devourers
Flyrant, Electro, Devourers

5 x Stealers, Broodlord
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers

Leviathan Detachment

Flyrant, Electro, Devourers

Venomthrope
Venomthrope

5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers

Manafactorum Genestealers

5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers
5 x Stealers

Makes more sense now.

Sounds like a fun list to be honest. Not sure how many Stealers the opponent could kill before they get there, lol