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So my next wave of comics have come through, still waiting for Dark Knight and Voodoo, but the rest have arrived. Still quite impressed, not sure there are any I would stop getting as of right now.
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Batwoman #2 - This is fast becoming my fave title, after quickly adjusting to the art style I am quickly becoming a huge fan of Kate Kane and her way of looking at things. Having Batman pop up a couple of times has worked quite nicely and I am really enjoying the tutor relationship she has with her cousin, Flamebird. Also where that might lead, (hoping for a female dynamic duo myself.) Story is pretty good as well, liking the starting villian/ghost thing, and the fact a large organisation is looking to unmask her.
Nightwing #2 - Got to thank Manchu for giving me enough interest to pick up Nightwing #1 last month, now two is here and I am liking where they seem to be taking him. If I am reading it right it looks like Nightwing is about to go out on the road, which should throw many interesting possabilities up for plots and stories to come. Eitherway, never seen a lot of Dick Grayson (other than the movies) before as a character, and I'm starting to like him.
Batman #2 - Another good issue, wasn't expecting much less mind, of all the DC characters he's always been either number one or number two, depending on what show is on, in fact he probably is in my top five all time heroes, even though up until DCNU I was a Marvel only guy comic wise. Seems to be setting up a nice set of baddies for the time being and they seem quite interesting, a probable threat, also any villians Batman is insisting don't exist, and seems annoyed with in general as a faction catches my interest. I'll be honest and say I can't wait to see him face off against his first classic Batman villian, but they seem to be a good opener.
Batgirl #2 - Mirror is a great starting Villian, really like the idea of his twisted ethos, and also having Batgirl as a target. I really like the story style and the comic art and the conflicting emotions she's feeling reagarding the 'mircale' of regaining her ability to walk after the Killing Joke. Of course from what I can tell, some DC fans are less enamoured with this change, but as someone who missed 90% of Oracle, other than its occasional appearance in a cartoon, its not a big issue for me. In general the comic is nicely plodding away and looking forward to the next one, certainly in my top five at the moment.
Catwoman #2 - Current fave title, love the whole persona they have for her in the first two books, although I was a huge fan of her in Batman Returns, and this seems to resonate nicely for me, really eager to see who they develop with this storyline, and its seems the last panel of issue two, has introduced her first real villian opponent, even if he seems to look like a lower tier villian. The dialogue and connections they are putting between Catwoman/Selina and Batman/Bruce are really fun, certainly helped by its teen + rating, can't wait for issue three.
Birds of Prey #2 - I mainly got this comic, just because I want to see how they are going to pull Poison Ivy being in a 'good' team, and so far she's not arrived, well she does right at the end, but she's not really been in a full comic yet. However I am quite happy with Black Canary and Starling, and really liked the arrival of Katana this issue. I'd say this comic to me has a lot of potential, and I am eager to see where it goes. Being a fan of teams in general, any sort of play off multiple characters is likely to capture my attention, and this looks like it will be doing just that. A solid second issue for me.
Suicide Squad #2 - I'm enjoying it, but its fast becoming obvious that a lot of these characters they are introducing aren't going to last long, and I'm not sure (well other than Harley) that the main three as noted pre to the launch of issue one, are my fave characters. My hope is that El Diablo will spur somekind of anti-hero plot line to devolp, and see some of them break away and try and take the fight to those who put them on this path. Of course in all likelyhood El Daiblo will be dead by issue six. Overall, the comic is Interesting, but not sure I'm a fan as yet.
Red Hood and the Outlaws #2 - After the annoying Starfire background last issue, I was expecting to dislike it again, however, I can't help but like Red Hood and Arsenal, Starfire stills needs improvement, serious improvement, but I am really enjoying Red Hood. As someone just coming into DC comics for the first time, and having around 99% of my DC knowledge from movies, cartoons and the occasional glance at Wiki/Comic Vine, I was surprised and very interested to learn Red Hood/Jason is a former Robin, Batman ally, and is obviously who Batman was referring to when speaking to Batwoman in Batwoman #1. I was thinking this might be the first title I might drop, after issue two, I'm not so sure.
Justice League #2 - I wasn't expecting to enjoy Justice League as much as I am, individually I'm not the biggest fan of Green Lantern, Flash, Supes and even Wonder Woman, but so far I am really enjoying the restart of the League. The banter between Green Lantern and Batman has been excellent reading, and overall plot and seemingly 'new' origin of Cyborg is looking very nice. Darkseid being the intial opponent seems a good move as well, throw them a threat big enough to unite the team, and yeah, I wasn't expecting to say this, but its in my top five. Looking forward to issue three, and potentially might convince me to look at the individual comics of the main characters at a later date.
On a side note, anyone picking up I have only noted four for my current top five, is due to the fact I am considering Dark Knight in there just off the strength of the first issue, really looking forward to that one, not so sure on Voodoo, unless it improves quickly it might be the first one I drop, but overall DCNU is working very nicely for me.
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@MDS: Great reviews. Sadly, I am still waiting for my books but you've really ramped my up about my Bat- (and Cat-) titles. Seeing as you liked BoP the past two months, you may want to check out the Huntress miniseries.
Yeah, I am starting to think I should have squeezed Huntress in there. A) She's another Gotham based character, and B) I've always liked her in any of the cartoons she's appeared in.
Might see if I can find an Issue #1 and #2 when I next go to Ipswich, and possibly start collecting her from #3 if I like it.
On a side note, really impressed with Econimic Comics, had all my issues dead on so far even though I'm only a two month old customer. Also when I asked for five sleeves and card backs, as the Ipswich store doesn't give card backs (and charges a lot more per issue) they only charged me 20p. Spot on.
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I've not read the Detective comics this time, so no idea sadly. I had to draw a line somewhere, and I didn't take that one, or Batman and Robin from the main four Batman titles.
On a side note, just grabbed Huntress #1 and #2 off ebay, didn't realise it was a short run comic otherwise I'd have got it.
Are any of the others just on short runs?
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Ah good, was more worried one or two of the comics I was enjoying, like Catwoman was a short run.
Mmm, wonder if Huntress will sell enough to get a regular series, or will she just pop back up in Birds of Prey at a later date?
Regardless, will be looking forward to reading them, although typically had to get them from two different stores, whats the bet issue #2 arrives first.
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Anung Un Rama wrote:Liefeld is penceling Hawk and Dove in the new 52. And you probably get most Deadpool stories before me. I'll have to order them from the UK or wait for the translation.
Have you read the Deadpool Marvel Max story and/or Deadpool: Pulp?
No, I don't read any Deadpool anymore because of the aforementioned problems. I don't even know how he got like this. For me, Deadpool ended when Joe Kelly left the original series.
Joe Kelly's Deadpool is a far more interesting character, that's for sure. But I love the completly whacky split-personality Deadpool as well. Merc with a Mouth, Dark Reign, Hit Monkey, Suicide Kings, I had blast with all of them.
FEAR ITSELF #7 SPOILERS, NOW SPOILER TAGGED BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO DO THAT THEMSELVES!
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WTF? Captain America lifted Thor's hammer!
Thor's dead!
The mosque near ground zero is a well liked food bank supporting the community in time of need.
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WTF? Captain America lifted Thor's hammer!
Thor's dead!
The mosque near ground zero is a well liked food bank supporting the community in time of need.
Wait.. what.
I'm struggling to get back into X-men at the moment, thats just.
"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
MDS, you mentioned earlier in the thread that you used to subscribe to the "red v. blue" mentality about not reading DC and I realized that, Batman aside, I was the same way as a kid. Now, I find it's the reverse -- without an exception in the Marvel line-up like there always had been in the DC one. I've paged through a few recent Marvel titles without anything piquing my interest. The X-Titles' convultions make Final Crisis through Flashpoint look simple, for example. The Avengers, meanwhile, is trying desperately hard to replicate the gravitas of the JLA -- with little success, IMO. I wish they'd do a "Ultimate Doctor Strange" or something.
My point is that I'm not hating on Marvel to hate on Marvel. I think they're a better company than DC in a lot of ways, actually. I just can't get into the content.
Meanwhile:
Patton Oswalt, regarding DC Comics, wrote:For right now, I'm mad at them; we're having a fight; they're sleeping on the couch; eventually I'll let them back in the bed.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:FEAR ITSELF #7 SPOILERS, NOW SPOILER TAGGED BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO DO THAT THEMSELVES!
Spoiler:
WTF? Captain America lifted Thor's hammer!
Thor's dead!
The mosque near ground zero is a well liked food bank supporting the community in time of need.
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He did if before iirc.
Isn't the first time either.
I don't care.
Sorry. Seemed like I was the only one following it...
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Manchu wrote:MDS, you mentioned earlier in the thread that you used to subscribe to the "red v. blue" mentality about not reading DC and I realized that, Batman aside, I was the same way as a kid. Now, I find it's the reverse -- without an exception in the Marvel line-up like there always had been in the DC one. I've paged through a few recent Marvel titles without anything piquing my interest. The X-Titles' convultions make Final Crisis through Flashpoint look simple, for example. The Avengers, meanwhile, is trying desperately hard to replicate the gravitas of the JLA -- with little success, IMO. I wish they'd do a "Ultimate Doctor Strange" or something.
My point is that I'm not hating on Marvel to hate on Marvel. I think they're a better company than DC in a lot of ways, actually. I just can't get into the content.
Meanwhile:
Patton Oswalt, regarding DC Comics, wrote:For right now, I'm mad at them; we're having a fight; they're sleeping on the couch; eventually I'll let them back in the bed.
I think when you're a kid everyone's like that. You're either Marvel or DC. Sony or Nintendo etc. Obviously, as adults we're a little more mature and I'm just looking for good stories. My two favorite books are Image now and I used to hate them. Anyways, when it comes to the big 2 if you didn't grow up with them it can be really inaccessible to try to get into now. Like obviously I'm just going to be more familiar with the C-List Marvel stars like Spider-Woman and War Machine than with Black Canary and Huntress. It's hard to follow two huge universes at once. That's why I was hoping Batman would get the full reset, like not even Robin, but it seems like he's the least rebooted of all.
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Huntress one arrived this morning, Cheers fr the heads up Manchu, a good read, and it notes on the issue, she'll be rejoining Birds of Prey after the mini series, so damn glad you raised it.
I should really pay more attention, didn't do much research before I put in my intial order. Heh.
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Watched X-Men: First Class over the weekend again, now I feel like reading some X-Men comics. Can anyone recommend something? Preferebly something with Magneto in it.
That movie was cooler than most of the comics. My friend bought all of the Age of Apocalypse TPBs, he's going to lend them to me later. Should be good I think.
Alpharius wrote:The Age of Apocalypse is fun, but it also unfortunately spawned a monster in all that came after it...
I dunno. I really enjoyed Warren Ellis's take on X-man.
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"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude
Denny O'Neill wrote:Batman's not just not Jewish, he's also a Republican. I would like to have him on my side, but I wouldn't want to hang out with him.
Some interesting conversation about Bob Kane, Will Eisner, Batman, and the Spirit from NYCC.
Anung Un Rama wrote:How's Joss Whedon's run? I heard good things about it.
Do you mean for Astonishing X-men?
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Alpharius wrote:The Age of Apocalypse is fun, but it also unfortunately spawned a monster in all that came after it...
I dunno. I really enjoyed Warren Ellis's take on X-man.
BY that I meant that they keep going back to that particular Apocalyptic Well...
I'm reading Uncanny X-Force right now. They've been in the AoA universe for like 7 issues now. Still, pretty interesting, though a bit convuluted. That's the problem when you write a good story, people can't get enough then they ruin it.
Anung: Deadpool's on the team. Somehow it's slipped under your Deadpool radar! He doesn't have time to be schizoid in it so I like him there.
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Anung Un Rama wrote:How's Joss Whedon's run? I heard good things about it.
malfred wrote:
Anung Un Rama wrote:How's Joss Whedon's run? I heard good things about it.
Do you mean for Astonishing X-men?
I think Whedon's Astoshing X-Men actually exists in it's own little pocket universe. You don't need any preexisting knowledge of what happened before or elsewhere in the Marvel U. Don't know anything about the actual stories themselves but they'd probably be a good one to check out.
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Manchu wrote:
Denny O'Neill wrote:Batman's not just not Jewish, he's also a Republican. I would like to have him on my side, but I wouldn't want to hang out with him.
Some interesting conversation about Bob Kane, Will Eisner, Batman, and the Spirit from NYCC.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Batman's a Republican? Isn't his defining characteristic being against capital punishment?
His defining characteristics also seem to be: being a billionaire who thinks the justice system is too soft on criminals.
He's also a humanitarian striving to help the poor and downtrodden.
He's not an aloof Billionaire like Trump. He's aloof from other billionaires and very away of what's going on on the streets and in back alleys like....Bruce Wayne.
KamikazeCanuck wrote:He's also a humanitarian striving to help the poor and downtrodden.
Well, actually, he's a philanthropist. He gives money away to charities but I've never seen either Batman or Bruce Wayne advocate higher taxes for an expansion of government-provided social services. Furthermore, Batman does not fight crime primarily to help the poor and downtrodden but rather to avenge those who have suffered the injustice of crime. Whether a wealthy entrepreneur or penniless urchin, Batman will hunt your down and punish you for your crimes. And, as it so happens, Batman's enemies are not usually wealthy except insofar as heists and arms/drugdealing have made them so. Contrast this to Superman's nemesis, who has been a legitimate billionaire and off-again-on-again CEO of a (usually) legitimate business since the 1980s.
