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2009/12/17 22:16:41
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Yeah, you're right...I think it was the Chief. I'm also having trouble remembering when Josh got weather powers...I thought he was a pure energy blast guy. Strange.
Re: Jane, Morrison's sendoff with the empire of the chairs was just a perfect exit for the character. I dunno how you mess with that. That issue is just Morrison at his best to me. The writing is heartfelt.
Superboy Prime needs to be retired with extreme prejudice. I also liked it better when all the other Kryptonians were dead, too. Although Kara's cute, so she gets to live.
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2009/12/18 04:03:15
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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KK: I think you should check out Supergod.
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=7326
I'm an Ellis fanboy, though.
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2009/12/18 14:19:04
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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I am going to have to make time to read the Batman writers guidelines real soon.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/18 14:55:53
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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I've been reading Supergod. Cracked me up to see Steve Austin in there.
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2009/12/23 11:33:55
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/24 05:42:50
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Master of the Hunt
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It's been a long time since I picked up a comic book, but I wanted to give a thumbs up for some of my favorites.
Poison Elves, Deadpool (1st run think it was Mark Waid maybe? sorry can't remember writers), Gen 13 (I know "fanboy"), the DC/Marvel crossover was actually kinda good, the Age of Apocolypse is what got back into comics so long ago, Forgotten Realms, and was always a fan of the team books like Avengers and JLA.
Poison Elves was by far my favorite though with Deadpool and Gen 13 always seeming to make me laugh.
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dwarfs, wood elves, dark elves, bretonnians, WOC,
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2009/12/24 06:51:31
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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I just read Frenchie's origin story in The Boys.
Question: WTF was that?
Answer: Only the greatest origin story EVAR.
The town of Franglais?
Les Saintes de Haw Haw?
The straining melody of the accordion?
I think I have to read that issue again.
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2009/12/30 02:17:32
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Is Supergod a serious book, dark humour or something else entirely? The title is intriguing. : )
I am following Cable.... I bought all the issues then read them over a three day weekend recently. There was a crossover with X Factor and I am presently trying to get those issues.
I bought a comic written by Neil Gaiman (sp?) and want to read it soon.
G
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2009/12/30 11:31:29
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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malfred wrote:I just read Frenchie's origin story in The Boys.
Question: WTF was that?
Answer: Only the greatest origin story EVAR.
The town of Franglais?
Les Saintes de Haw Haw?
The straining melody of the accordion?
I think I have to read that issue again.
I read the littler preview and it did look good, but I'm only up to the end of Vol III in the tpbks so I'll have to hold off for a while yet.
I gather the copies of Blackest Night sent out to stores early under a do not sell provision were leaked onto the web.. .. *lack of surprise*. It's been a good series so far but I do feel it has dragged a bit in the middle, I'm hoping that they actually do something with the ending that has repercussions in some way, even if it just a temp ban of people coming back from the dead so quickly. I read something about DC doing a new "History of the DC Universe" and set of "Whos Who" next year so they might even use it as (yet another) continuity straightener.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/30 11:53:43
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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infilTRAITOR wrote:...alongside 'Judge Dredd's America'
That is, to my mind, the finest Dredd story ever, absolutely magnificent with some quite breathtaking artwork.
I just finished the 3 G-novel Durham Red story arc. The Scarlet Cantos, Vermin Stars and Empty Suns. Written by Dan Abnett. Very nice, good art and Ms Red is one of my all time favourites.
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2009/12/30 16:39:57
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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So can anyone tell me more about Supergod? It's sounds very interesting for sure !
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- edit -
I did a quick bit of research on Supergod on the Internet... Definitely will hafta checks it out for sure.
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2009/12/30 18:02:05
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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Green Blow Fly wrote:So can anyone tell me more about Supergod? It's sounds very interesting for sure !
G
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I did a quick bit of research on Supergod on the Internet... Definitely will hafta checks it out for sure.
http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=7326
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2009/12/30 18:45:53
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks malf. Do you know if the series is finished?
G
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2009/12/30 19:58:13
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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2009/12/30 21:40:04
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cool!
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2010/01/04 16:47:13
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Finished volume 4 of The Boyz... quite strong stuff even by Ennis' standards... I did feel elements of this plotline, along with one or two other little areas in the series so far, are a bit recycled from Preacher and previous works, but if it aint broke then etc etc I guess.
Blackest Night trundles along nicely, some interesting choices for the new "deputies" in the book. I am still vey much of the opinion that Wonder Woman could normallt snap Mera like a twig, let alone when she's a BL as well.
Oh... you guys seen this teaser...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Og08kapNkY/Sz7VVpwe1wI/AAAAAAAAELU/2pG1eFD51h4/s1600-h/Spider-tease.jpg
... I know a fair few spidey fans who would be chuffed if certain people/relatonships were restored ASAP... Marvel wouldn't be cruel enough to tease and then not deliver... would they ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/01/04 21:17:08
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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Yeah, Ennis definitely re-does his "Superheroes are the lame" theme in The Boys.
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2010/01/04 21:30:30
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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It's not just that, there's the whole St. Patrick's day thing.. again ( in fairness I think it is actually the same bar and kind of an in joke but still ), more "if they'd all just be American and not Italian/romanian/whatever-American they'd be fine" thing.. again...and parts of the whole G Men story arc reminded me of the whole De Sade -- you remember the guy with the armadillo-- bit at the start of Preacher -- kiddie fiddling bad guy, drugs, porn.. mistaken identity etc etc.
That said I do enjoy seeing the relationship between Hughie and his new bird as it develops.
I still actually LOL at bits of it, but.. hmm.. I just feel the internal logic, so to speak, of the world just doesn't quite gel somehow. Not least the discrepancy between how actually useless the majority of the supes appear to be powers/abilities wise and their role and status in the setting. I get the swipe about "false idols" and all that with regards to us readers and our world, but I don't think it quite works for the internal logic of the stories he's trying to tell. IF the greater % of the supes are so useless powerwise then I don't get how this then works with meta human defense being the next big money making scheme for THE CORPORATIONS.
Meh.. is just a comic book I guess  ..
I am kind of curious to seeing when Homelander will finally snap and what he'll unleash on the world.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/01/05 01:32:25
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I've decided to start boycotting DC. They're making a complete pigs ear out of running that company.
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2010/01/05 10:33:46
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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So.. you're on Batstrike then are you ? Holy picket lines !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/01/05 16:48:49
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Yes!
I really think the stories DC are writing are damaging the industry though. A new reader picking up any of the big epics of recent times is going to be lost in the self referential continuity obsessed crapfest that's going on. Imagine if you saw Dark Knight, thought "Man, Batman is cool!" and picked up some comics, say, Batman RIP or Final Crisis? You're going to put them back on the shelf and back away slowly, probably thinking that comics are for nutjobs. Considering how awesome Dark Knight and Batman Arkham Asylum both are, I can see that scenario played out all over the place.
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2010/01/06 12:42:10
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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hmm.. I take the point about Final Crisis.. but in fairness those sort of crossovers are only ever for the regular hardcore fans.. and it was a great story too so ya boo sucks to you !
I do agree that - and I loved Batman RIP and most of the follow ons afterwards -- it was an odd choice to jettison Bruce Wayne as Batman when the character as a whole has never been bigger in the publics mind due to the films. But I kind of like the fact they let the writers do what thet wanted to do as such rather than forcing them down a path they didn't want to go down.
I think the "earth one" books they've announced might be good for the new reader.http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article& id=23954
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/01/06 20:26:54
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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reds8n, FYI the new Doom Patrol focuses on Negative Man and his backstory...including bringing the Morrison run into continuity. Kinda. I just paged through it (I'll read it fully later tonight), but it looks like it still doesn't quite make sense and is swept under the rug as being him not remembering things fully. I may be misrepresenting things. But I guess to be fair to Giffen, how do you really sort out and make sense of DP history?
So just how many weeks has it been since a Batman & Robin issue was released? It feels like about eight.
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2010/01/06 20:35:17
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Reds8n, I do think Earth 1 books might be good, but the Ultimates thing with marvel didn't work out too well (except Ultimate Galactus, which was alright). Also, it's tainted by the stupid assed multiverse metanarrative bullcrap that DC have been wallowing in since Infinite Crisis.
I picked up some Invincible today, as I don't want my boycott to hurt my friendly neighbourhood comic shop. I'm hoping it'll be pretty good, Kirkman is a good writer and he shares my views on the industry at the moment.
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2010/01/06 22:29:31
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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@ Mr. Gorgon.. cool, I'll check that out. I agree it's impossible.. I still hope they leave Crazy Jane alone though.
@ Da Boss.. I must admit the fact that the Ultimates line even has to exist should say/tell something to the companies... but i do think they're in a catch 22 situation. Ignore continuity and the hardcore/longterm readers feel cheated and many of the writers lose aspects they love working with -- I genuinely think the world would be a worse place without Roy Thomas and his love of in universe continuity, hell he wrote entire stories to explain away minor flaws in continuity.. and bless him for it. That's the pay off long term fans get.
But..I accept that "we" need to keep attracting new readers who might well be lost or put off by being expected to start at issue #123 of a series. Which is ironic really : as a teenager, in the fairly recent 90s, when comic book stores and back issues were well established, it was part of the process... acquiring "the knowledge" so to speak... ... that kind of made the whole collecting thing so much fun. In, a very daft, way it was kind of like being part of a "secret" club or some such-- much in the same way that GW fans get snotty over "facts" X/Y/Z and so I guess -- and.. yeah.. it was kind of a thrill when you got issue #666 which revealed the actual identity of "Mister X" or whatever. Especially as you'd already read in Wizard/equivalent about what the original writer had planned instead and.. and.. etc etc...
I dunno.. I just think.. ideas about the viability of the paper and ink medium aside, that in the rush to attract more and more readers we are, perhaps, in some danger of losing what attracted us to the comics in the first place.
...bah...I'm getting old... must stop drinking spirits on a weeknight.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2010/01/06 22:41:29
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I see your point, but at the same time, it's not those self referential stories or big shake ups and retcons that got me into comics. It was the stories and the characters. I was always a bit confused by all the references, to be honest, and when I put the effort into finding out what was being referenced, I was usually mildly disappointed. The fact is, the industry isn't doing too well at the moment, and it's totally failing to bring in new readers- especially kids. I know for myself, reading comics from a very young age really helped my literacy, which no doubt helped me do well in education overall. I'd hope that lots of kids these days could get the same experience. I think time spent marketing to long term fans is largely wasted, since if the story is good, we'll read it anyway. It's my (entirely subjective) opinion that the new continuity obsessed stuff hasn't even been that good, for the most part. (There are, of course, exceptions).
I certainly don't think that paper and ink comics are in any way not viable- to my mind they're at least as viable as novels. The biggest problem with them is that they are written by fanboys for fanboys, and are impenetrable to the average person.
I'm not back in school until Friday, so I don't feel bad for my beers. I'm reading Invincible by Kirkman for the first time at the moment (local shop only had book four so I decided to jump in to assess whether it was immediately accessible or not). It's quite good, if you like your teenage superhero drama (which I do )
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2010/01/08 14:27:24
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Now that I've actually read it, there's an interesting twist in the Doom Patrol issue. And I don't think you have anything to worry about regarding Crazy Jane.
Did anyone else pick up the first issue of Siege? I'm not normally big on the Marvel "event" stories, but the first one was pretty good. Nice pacing.
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2010/01/09 22:48:45
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I have never been much of a DC fan.
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2010/01/10 07:16:02
Subject: The comic book discussion thread.
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Madrak Ironhide
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Haven't read much DC or Marvel at all other than the side storylines. I started to like
Iron Fist, and then I didn't. I started to like Iron Man, and then I didn't.
I think the longest running storyline I follow these days belongs to webcomics
such as somethingpositive.
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2010/01/12 13:00:07
Subject: Re:The comic book discussion thread.
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Brightest Day then ?
Hmm...I think event fatigue might well see me skip most of this, still Johns on Flash is a plus I guess.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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