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 Crablezworth wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
How long before someone makes a carapace landing pad for the warmaster?


That needs to happen for sure, there are already ones out there for the warlord.


Have a link for those? It would be interested in taking a look.

For... science.

EDIT: Found one! But it looks like a conversion
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There's one for the warlord on the battle bling store, hoppefully they'll do one for the warmaster.

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https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/982021490/landing-pad-carapace-upgrade-compatible?ref=shop_home_active_57


If they release one hopefully they'll make it fit in where the carapace weapon is mounted so it's more central like the one you posted.

the angle is obviously bad lol but it'd be a cool option, instead of missile it just sends out a skimmer.





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 Crablezworth wrote:
There's one for the warlord on the battle bling store, hoppefully they'll do one for the warmaster.


I'm sure they will. Battlebling have been pretty good so far in providing weapons of all sizes.

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SamusDrake wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
There's one for the warlord on the battle bling store, hoppefully they'll do one for the warmaster.


I'm sure they will. Battlebling have been pretty good so far in providing weapons of all sizes.


I wonder if we'll see warmaster ccw weapons from them before gw previews the weapon cards for the warmaster iconoclast.

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 Crablezworth wrote:


I wonder if we'll see warmaster ccw weapons from them before gw previews the weapon cards.


Probably in the form of a gigantic sword.


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 Crablezworth wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
LOL, as cool as that would be, I think the AI aircraft are a bit too big for that to work. Maybe if they ever release the chibi-hawks, but I think there's a good chance they'll skip over those aircraft.

Ya it's closer to 6mm, hope they come out around the same time.


At risk of reigniting that debate, what are you referencing as "closer to 6mm"?

I thought 6mm was the correct scale, with "8mm" referring to the scale of a Space Marine in Titanicus.

I remember someone posted pictures of the rear access hatch of the Warlord and it matched perfectly with a 6mm Vanguard miniatures figure.
   
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 Jack Flask wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
LOL, as cool as that would be, I think the AI aircraft are a bit too big for that to work. Maybe if they ever release the chibi-hawks, but I think there's a good chance they'll skip over those aircraft.

Ya it's closer to 6mm, hope they come out around the same time.


At risk of reigniting that debate, what are you referencing as "closer to 6mm"?

I thought 6mm was the correct scale, with "8mm" referring to the scale of a Space Marine in Titanicus.

I remember someone posted pictures of the rear access hatch of the Warlord and it matched perfectly with a 6mm Vanguard miniatures figure.


I don't own any Titanicus models, but for AI I've measured all the planes that have fluff dimensions, and I own a bunch of 6mm representations of real world aircraft, AI is definitely closer to 8mm. The Ork Bommers even have Grot models you can measure, from memory they're a bit over 5mm in a seated position, and given they're Grots, I think a human being 8mm tall would be about right.

But I think the 6mm vs 8mm debate originates from 40k itself not having consistent scaling. *shrugs*

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But I think the 6mm vs 8mm debate originates from 40k itself not having consistent scaling. *shrugs*

Basically this. The important thing, to me, is that the AT and AI stuff looks right besides most epic regular stuff (vehicles and the like) and to the Vanguard/Onslaught/printed stuff

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It's relative, from 6 to 8 it's about 25%. Some stuff on a titan's base looks weird at 8mm just because it works against the big stompy robot thing a bit, also the warmaster has limited space on it's base in particular.


All 6mm even the perturabo, so basically like vanguard for basing. But ya an 8mm tank or plane would be tough to fit, warmaster would have to be standing or stepping on it.



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SamusDrake wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:


I wonder if we'll see warmaster ccw weapons from them before gw previews the weapon cards.


Probably in the form of a gigantic sword.




I hope if they do a claw it can be either version, I guess without knowing the rules though it might not matter. I wonder if the sword will get something unique like range 3 for some reason, it will likely be such a high strength that any special rules will barely be noticed.

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I don't have a Warmaster, so can't really check, but I've used "8mm" marines and tanks for bases without much of an issue.

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 Crablezworth wrote:
It's relative, from 6 to 8 it's about 25%. Some stuff on a titan's base looks weird at 8mm just because it works against the big stompy robot thing a bit, also the warmaster has limited space on it's base in particular.


I think it's maybe because 40k titans aren't actually all that big? Some of the art draws them as being massive, but whenever GW actually makes them into models, they're not as big as one might feel they should be.

But yeah, I don't own any of the titans to check.

One thing about scale, sometimes it's better not having a consistent scale anyway. If you have a game where you focus on the titans, it probably makes sense to undersize the aircraft and humans, if you have a game where you focus on the aircraft, maybe it's better to undersize the titans to represent them being far away.

Random question, the armour plate bits you paint as coloured on the various classes of titans (warlord, reaver, warhound, warmaster), are they always separate from the underlying mechanical bits? So basically, if I wanted to "speed paint" them, could I leave all those coloured bits off and paint 90% of it with rattle cans, just cleaning up the edging afterwards?
   
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 Crablezworth wrote:


I hope if they do a claw it can be either version, I guess without knowing the rules though it might not matter. I wonder if the sword will get something unique like range 3 for some reason, it will likely be such a high strength that any special rules will barely be noticed.


Thinking about it, the Iconoclast only seems to differ in two heads, two weapons and thus two weapon cards.

Being as you already own a Warmaster, have you noticed anything different about the smaller sub weapons in the Iconoclast image? If they were different I would lean more towards a new GW plastic kit rather than a FW release...

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Random question, the armour plate bits you paint as coloured on the various classes of titans (warlord, reaver, warhound, warmaster), are they always separate from the underlying mechanical bits? So basically, if I wanted to "speed paint" them, could I leave all those coloured bits off and paint 90% of it with rattle cans, just cleaning up the edging afterwards?

Usually yes, you could have the plates separate, but you'd need to be careful that you're actually able to glue them afterwards, as some poses might prevent it.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:


I hope if they do a claw it can be either version, I guess without knowing the rules though it might not matter. I wonder if the sword will get something unique like range 3 for some reason, it will likely be such a high strength that any special rules will barely be noticed.


Thinking about it, the Iconoclast only seems to differ in two heads, two weapons and thus two weapon cards.

Being as you already own a Warmaster, have you noticed anything different about the smaller sub weapons in the Iconoclast image? If they were different I would lean more towards a new GW plastic kit rather than a FW release...


Three weapons and three heads I think. The smaller weapons are all identical, but they are on a different sprue to the main weapons and heads, all the pieces that have changed on the Iconoclast are from a single sprue. If there were changes to the smaller weapons then I think that would more likely to indicate that it was a FW kit, as that would otherwise require more than 1 sprue to be changed.

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Albertorius - you have done well with positioning that. I have struggled with the one Titan I did, and have usually just stuck to infantry.

Crablezwoth - that Perturabo base looks awesome! Although he would have to be careful, I can imagine the after-battle incident report involving that Titan. "Well we saw him running around down there and tried to step to one side, but then he swerved at the last second and then there was a horrible crunching sound!"

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Regarding the scale thing, I've noticed that GW is going for "1/4th of 40k" when designing Titanicus and Aeronautica stuff. A 32mm Space Marine is then 8mm. Thing in 40k is that the scale is all over the place. Regular humans such as Necromunda gangers or Rogue Trader crews are taller than genetically modified super soldiers in power armour, just to give you an example.

So for regular humans, I think you can get away with going for anything between 6mm and about 7.5mm for normal humans and then go for 8mm to 8.5mm if you wanna do Space Marines. Terminators would most likely be 9mm to 9.5mm.

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Tavis75 wrote:


Three weapons and three heads I think. The smaller weapons are all identical, but they are on a different sprue to the main weapons and heads, all the pieces that have changed on the Iconoclast are from a single sprue. If there were changes to the smaller weapons then I think that would more likely to indicate that it was a FW kit, as that would otherwise require more than 1 sprue to be changed.


Ah, I see.

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Hmmmm...apparently the Iconoclast...
...will be making its way to battlefields in the imminent future
.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/21/heavyweight-paintjobs-four-warmaster-titans-painted-by-members-of-the-studio/

...with any luck, on Sunday, it will be "Coming Soon...". "Titans and Thunderhawks", maybe?

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SamusDrake wrote:
Hmmmm...apparently the Iconoclast...
...will be making its way to battlefields in the imminent future
.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/21/heavyweight-paintjobs-four-warmaster-titans-painted-by-members-of-the-studio/

...with any luck, on Sunday, it will be "Coming Soon...". "Titans and Thunderhawks", maybe?


My guess is October, for one I'm hoping and thinking it will possibly not be alone and like the last warmaster release, will hopefully coincide with the long awaited traitor book's release. No rumours, just a hunch that it would fit well with october being the book is likely full of rules for corrupted knights and titans. Mostly just wishful thinking but imminent could mean weeks.

Total wish listing but at this point I'd really love if they released a card warmaster terminal with a full set of cards the encompasses both warmaster boxes. Even if they offer the sprue separately like they do for the warlords there'd still be no way to get the cards outside of lucking out on ebay or buying
the iconoclast box just to get arms and carapace weapons and cards. I love my warmaster, I just never am going to field two of them, which makes it like the best candidate of any of my titans to be as modular as possible.

Those are some nice paint jobs, it's a shame it wasn't the iconoclast.

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 Crablezworth wrote:

Total wish listing but at this point I'd really love if they released a card warmaster terminal with a full set of cards the encompasses both warmaster boxes. Even if they offer the sprue separately like they do for the warlords there'd still be no way to get the cards outside of lucking out on ebay or buying
the iconoclast box just to get arms and carapace weapons and cards. I love my warmaster, I just never am going to field two of them, which makes it like the best candidate of any of my titans to be as modular as possible.


You could always get a second to let your opponents have one in a mirror match? That doesn't solve the card issue if you wanted 2 plasma Warmasters to face off though.

I don't like the flimsy unit sheets so will be doing my own to replace the one which comes in the box - and if I'm doing that, might as well print sufficient weapon cards to cover the alternative builds when the weapon sprue comes out.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
Hmmmm...apparently the Iconoclast...
...will be making its way to battlefields in the imminent future
.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/21/heavyweight-paintjobs-four-warmaster-titans-painted-by-members-of-the-studio/

...with any luck, on Sunday, it will be "Coming Soon...". "Titans and Thunderhawks", maybe?


Article today says the new Aeronautica is coming very soon so you may be right
   
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 xttz wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Hmmmm...apparently the Iconoclast...
...will be making its way to battlefields in the imminent future
.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/21/heavyweight-paintjobs-four-warmaster-titans-painted-by-members-of-the-studio/

...with any luck, on Sunday, it will be "Coming Soon...". "Titans and Thunderhawks", maybe?


Article today says the new Aeronautica is coming very soon so you may be right


Nice, make this happen for real


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And being as they can't write rules to save their lives, one can always use the Aero-map for Battletech!


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Article today says the new Aeronautica is coming very soon so you may be right


Ah, the warm glow of being right. Makes one feel like Ming the Merciless when he tells Flash that he's having a party with guests....and...balloons.

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It will be interesting to see if the Traitors book has Corrupted Titans or not. I can see it going either way.

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 gorgon wrote:
It will be interesting to see if the Traitors book has Corrupted Titans or not. I can see it going either way.


It pretty much has to or something is wrong. For one, they've been referenced in the rules so if not in the traitor book it'd be disappointing to have to get yet another supplement after getting what's largely a compendium. But also, the loyalist book re-printed the psi titan rules, so the traitor book would be pretty lacking if it didn't have corrupted rules. Hell one of the newer rules from the traitor book is a piece of a wargear that directly affects corrupted enemies. It'd be really disappointing to have it be it's own book we have to wait till next year for.

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I think AT has to start moving toward corrupted titans if its ever going to mature as a game. Mirror Matches and mirror forces can only sustain the game for so long and GW has released many of the bigger and more iconic models for the Imperium. Sure they can always add more over time, but by that same virtue the more they add for the Imperials the more they've got to add for any Chaos/Xenos force to counter them to bring them up to standard.

I think they are more than at a comfortable mirror-match position and the game must be selling well for them to be putting money into more models and bigger ones.

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Theres also the matter of renegade knight banners, which would be...interesting.

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