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Someone on B&C mentioned 80 base for the bike, 90 for the Jetbike with the hurricane bolter and 105 for the Missile Launcher.

15 bikes with 10 missile launchers for 1500, two captains on bike for 320, and a -1 hit Vexillus on foot (if you have poitns for tda, sure) to make it 2000? Probs not competitive, but will look cool!

Only 4cp, though spend one for a +1 invuln relic on the other captain down to 3...

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Connecticut

Missiles aren't great, imo. Go far Bolters.

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I think I might go for something like a battalion with 3x5 guards (not least because I’ve got the models), and two biker captains for HQ. I can’t really see why you’d take any other hq.

Wardens look interesting. I guess if I had a squad of those and two vexillas then I’d have 3 elites - enough for a vanguard detachment. So maybe I could run three captains on bikes and have 7cps.
   
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 carabine wrote:
 Red Comet wrote:
When I look at today's pre-orders and other stuff they've talked about in the warhammer community articles I notice only 10 of the 13 datasheets are known. What are the last 3? Are Praetors on bikes their own datasheet?
Captain-general
Shield Captain
Shield Captain in terminator armor
Shield Captain on bike
Custodian Guard
Custodian Wardens
Allarus Custodians
Vexilus Praetor
Vexilus Praetor in Terminator armor
Venerable Dreadnought
Venerable Land Raider
Vertus Praetors

Hrm, even I'm one short....


Warden with Vexilus is missing in your list.
   
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Hmm, the Contemptor and Land Raider seem rather dull don't you think?

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 Cephalobeard wrote:
Missiles aren't great, imo. Go far Bolters.


Need some form of anti tank other than piercing them with their long, thick lances, right?

Though I suppose Hordes will be their bigger issue...

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Hurricane Bolters in bulk will help with hordes, up to a point anyway. But then you aren't taking the melta of course. Balancing anti-horde with anti-tank is going to be tough for the Custodes IMO.

Or you could just play AM!

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Maybe present your opponent with some imminent threats, deep striking termies or the troops through the strategem and get the bikes in their face to give a couple of dreadnoughts time to move up the board and deal with the tanks, pure AC I can't see winning any tournaments but would be fun for friendly games.





 
   
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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Given the size of those lances, Custodes are obviously over compensating for something.....

Ridiculous.

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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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 Ratius wrote:
Given the size of those lances, Custodes are obviously over compensating for something.....

Ridiculous.


Yeah, the length of their jetbikes, so as to act as cavalry.

Save the Freudian jokes for extreme cases, they get old super fast.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

TBH I think "because he's riding on a flying bike" is one of the few times the justification for having a HUEG weapon makes some sense(after normal suspension of disbelief for the whole flying bikes thing).

Looking at them, I think I might like the bikes afterall, I'd just have to leave off the canards so it has a more traditional jetbike profile.

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 Ratius wrote:
Given the size of those lances, Custodes are obviously over compensating for something.....

Ridiculous.


The lance needs to be a little big bigger than the mount to work. Not like the FW ones where the lance is smaller than the lenght of the jetbike.
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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Save the Freudian jokes for extreme cases, they get old super fast.


Woah their chief, was only a light hearted comment.

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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be

By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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 Ratius wrote:
Save the Freudian jokes for extreme cases, they get old super fast.


Woah their chief, was only a light hearted comment. Who pissed in your cereal this morn?


I think you might be taking "that joke gets old really fast" as more hostile than it is. Think a tone of mild, weary frustration at seeing that joke every time something is vaguely cylindrical or long.
   
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My bad, apologies.

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Dman137 wrote:
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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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 Galas wrote:
 Ratius wrote:
Given the size of those lances, Custodes are obviously over compensating for something.....

Ridiculous.


The lance needs to be a little big bigger than the mount to work. Not like the FW ones where the lance is smaller than the lenght of the jetbike.
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I am so glad the Jetbikes are bundled as a 3, was really expecting 2 per box. well there's my Emperor's Children Bikers sorted.

I really don't know whether to start a Slaanesh warband first or keep em as AC, the low models count is extra appealing for someone like me who can't paint an army to save his life.

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Doesn't look like there're anything to make the "Dawneagle" jet bike look different from other bikes. Except from the different chest plate of the rider.
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/21/next-weeks-pre-orders-ever-changing-ever-vigilant/

Yeah going by the preview for next week I can't spot what makes the shield captain biker distinct from the others, besides the lack of a helmet (and just like the custodian guard, a bare head that I don't like the look of at all).
   
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I hope the veteran box is 45€ like the normal one. But probably it will be 50€ just to make them stand out with a little symbolic "elite" premium price.

But they are basically the same kit. You change Swords+Shields for skirts

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Connecticut

They appear to be indicating it's the helmet that makes the difference, yeah.

I'll likely end up either painting my bikes differently or simply adopting different basing styles for the ones intended to be Captains.

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I have a problem.

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I'm considering to make it easily to visually pick out on the table top having my officers have a differant colour of helmet plume, not quite sure what colour I'd go with though.

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BrianDavion wrote:
I'm considering to make it easily to visually pick out on the table top having my officers have a differant colour of helmet plume, not quite sure what colour I'd go with though.



I was thinking the same thing. As my Custodes are black, I was thinking in White Plume to captains, because the normal ones wear a red one. But maybe Purple will look good too.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Connecticut

Oh. That's smart, too.

Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.

I have a problem.

Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.

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Using your rules isn't being a dick.
 
   
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 Galas wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm considering to make it easily to visually pick out on the table top having my officers have a differant colour of helmet plume, not quite sure what colour I'd go with though.



I was thinking the same thing. As my Custodes are black, I was thinking in White Plume to captains, because the normal ones wear a red one. But maybe Purple will look good too.


Yeah I was thinking black, the officers aren't quite 100% ready to remove all marks of mourning yet. Purple might be good too, it's often considered a royal colour so making officers purple... yeah a lotta sense

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I have 3 of the fw bikes. The original plan was to use them as squad leaders, but they will stand out more as hqs.
   
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Does anyone know whether the hurricane bolters will be bog standard or have some sort of advantage over the non Custodes variant? Blood of kittens reported they'd have -1 AP, but so far this is the only source and I don't know how reliable this is. -1 AP would be insanely good though.
   
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Gryphonne wrote:
Does anyone know whether the hurricane bolters will be bog standard or have some sort of advantage over the non Custodes variant? Blood of kittens reported they'd have -1 AP, but so far this is the only source and I don't know how reliable this is. -1 AP would be insanely good though.
If they are -1 AP, they become the absolute best option for weapons on the jetbikes.

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I too plan on using FW Bikes for my HQ. I'm thinking of cobbling together 6 bolters from my MkIV armor marines.


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Gryphonne wrote:
Does anyone know whether the hurricane bolters will be bog standard or have some sort of advantage over the non Custodes variant? Blood of kittens reported they'd have -1 AP, but so far this is the only source and I don't know how reliable this is. -1 AP would be insanely good though.
If they are -1 AP, they become the absolute best option for weapons on the jetbikes.


I couldn't agree more. Total horde slayers if that's true. Even makes them okay at killing light to medium vehicles.

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