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I definitely didn’t see this coming after building a Sea wolf army with the old kits. But I love these - picking up at least 1 box if not 2. Can’t wait to see the new rules and fully embrace the chaos.

 Crimson wrote:
The models are nice, but it is a bit silly as they very recently did a chaos marauder revamp for AoS. But I guess GW's weird insistence of keeping the model lines separate means that marauder lovers of both systems now have a ton of different sculpts to choose from.

I did buy the big Darkoath set with the intention of square-basing them. I haven't painted them yet, so I'll wait to see how well a 'mixed' unit would look with these new guys, or if they should stay apart.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Wow did not have new marauders on my bingo card this year. But his concerns me:

Every miniature has a choice of two heads, and their shields and hand weapons are interchangeable so you’ll be able to build varied units.

Older kits were totally modular with any head or arm fitting any body, not sure if 2 heads per body means each body can use one or two heads, or that the kit had 40 heads for 20 bodies. Hopefully the latter.

From the article:

“ Just like the regular Marauders they sneer at from atop their powerful steeds, each Horseman has a choice of two heads.”

It reads as the latter to me.

Seems a but odd that GW said that they weren't going to include Daemons because Chaos is less powerful in this period of time, and then update multiple Chaos units.

Or maybe GW are canning Daemons and that was just a lie.

And just as with the Darkoath, a little effort will allow the heads to be on any body. Given that these dudes are all guys, there won't be any extra gender-based division, either!

Quite funny as I'd hit the "first unread" posts that were all about GW not updating core infantry and then bang here comes these marauders.

I absolutely love them, excellent refresh and as others have said further up, they're superb as just general "barbarians".

Although I won't get them for TOW (I'm waiting for some refreshed Elves now!) I could see myself converting them up as Catachams for my Feudal Guard regiment for 40k.

Absolutely knocking it out of the park with these sculpts.

I do wonder, given the timescale, if we are now starting to see some kits that GW greenlit after their planned "release a few old kits for the grognards and leave it at that" plan changed in light of TOW selling incredibly well on launch.

It might mean that we're in for a lot more new kits than expected as it's only around now (given the lead time on these things) that we would expect to see an expanded release schedule.

Resculpting some of the lower quality core sets is absolutely the way to go. High elves and tomb kings could really benefit.

Awesome sculpts.

It immediately re-ignited my desire to use these to round out my Darkoath army in AoS. Just to show that the army is a collection of various tribes.

If the Beastmen Gor kit, which doesn't need an upgrade nearly as much as some of the other ToW kits gets this kind of treatment, I'll jump in 100% on ToW.

Note how they are updating the models which are not found in the battalion box.
I wonder if this is foreshadowing for the other factions.

 Astmeister wrote:
Ellyrian reavers were only slightly updated to have an individual sprue instead of the old combined sprue from Blood Island starter Box (or whatever the name was).

These marauders are totally new.

Were the Reavers not totally new sculpts? I thought they were

Vorian wrote:

 Astmeister wrote:
Ellyrian reavers were only slightly updated to have an individual sprue instead of the old combined sprue from Blood Island starter Box (or whatever the name was).

These marauders are totally new.

Were the Reavers not totally new sculpts? I thought they were

They added some command flair to them.

I did not see pics of the sprues of the Tomb Kings Royal Heralds anywhere online so here you go

There was a set of Reavers in the high Elf/Skaven box way back when, but those were push-fit/easy build IIRC. The new Reavers are a full kit in the same style which may be why people are thinking they are older than they are.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Seems a but odd that GW said that they weren't going to include Daemons because Chaos is less powerful in this period of time, and then update multiple Chaos units.

Or maybe GW are canning Daemons and that was just a lie.

I dont see what one has to do with the other. They didnt uodate any daemons kits, and updating chaos mortals kits has no bearing on the fluff starus of the daemons.

scarletsquig wrote:
Absolutely knocking it out of the park with these sculpts.

I do wonder, given the timescale, if we are now starting to see some kits that GW greenlit after their planned "release a few old kits for the grognards and leave it at that" plan changed in light of TOW selling incredibly well on launch.

It might mean that we're in for a lot more new kits than expected as it's only around now (given the lead time on these things) that we would expect to see an expanded release schedule.

Resculpting some of the lower quality core sets is absolutely the way to go. High elves and tomb kings could really benefit.

I can speak with some degree of authority on the topic that this kit has been planned in some form for longer than TOW has been on the market. Whether or not they had the greenlight for mass production I dont know, but the sculpting and prototyping was done before TOW released.

Damn, those are some sweet Marauders! Definitely look more like they live in the cold North, instead of the old kit where nobody knows what a shirt is.

Also, this:

New rules for the four Cults of Chaos...

Finally some decent God-specific rules?

I wonder if some of those new rules might be some kind of norsca based subfaction? Cause those look very much like Norsconian inspired "totally not viking raider" models.

Even if Norsca themselves aren't around (either in the game timeline point or in the game); it sets the seed for the chaos forces being very much based in the northern reaches.

~Which honestly until just now I'd not really noticed had been a change in the Chaos army presentation. That they steadily (esp through AoS) became more and more bare chested and more Barbarian/Conan style instead of more Viking like they were in a lot of the older stories and such.


So its very cool to see them come across like this.

 KidCthulhu wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

I did my best to resize the warrior using the mini-bases as a guide:



I'll stick with my Bearmen of Urslo...

Doesn't seem to be much in it. You could slightly build up the warrior's base to give it a few mm height and it wouldn't be noticeable.

These models just look awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing what other releases are coming because this says something really positive about their commitment to the game.

As much as I'd love new sculpts for chaos trolls and warhounds, I feel like we'd most likely get that mounted shaman before those other models (probably via FW)

 GaroRobe wrote:

As much as I'd love new sculpts for chaos trolls and warhounds, I feel like we'd most likely get that mounted shaman before those other models (probably via FW)

Didn't we already get the mounted shaman as a made to order when the WoC Journal came out?

 skrulnik wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

As much as I'd love new sculpts for chaos trolls and warhounds, I feel like we'd most likely get that mounted shaman before those other models (probably via FW)

Didn't we already get the mounted shaman as a made to order when the WoC Journal came out?

Yeah but he means a new mounted shaman as opposed to a classic model on made-to-order or put back into production.

 GaroRobe wrote:
As much as I'd love new sculpts for chaos trolls and warhounds, I feel like we'd most likely get that mounted shaman before those other models (probably via FW)

You mean this guy, who's literally on the webstore right now?

For those who are hoping for new Tomb Kings skeletons (something that I, as a Tomb Kings player, wouldn't really mind), they've already revealed (or was it an unintentional leak?) an upcoming battalion box for them, presumably replacing the current starter box as I expect those to go away at some point. That battalion has a box of the current Skeleton Infantry (which they show built as 20 Warriors and 16 Archers), a box of Tomb Guard (20 dudes, and they are newer than the regular guys) and a Necrosphinx (which includes a foot Tomb King if you build it as a Necrosphinx). I doubt they would release something like that and then reveal new Skelly Bois. I expect new models of those to be years off, but they will probably happen.

 GaroRobe wrote:


As much as I'd love new sculpts for chaos trolls and warhounds, I feel like we'd most likely get that mounted shaman before those other models (probably via FW)

The title is somewhat extra-funny for ze Germans - Westerland is (besides being a pretty generic "Ye olde placename") a small town on the island of Sylt, mostly known for being in a punkrock song by Die Ärzte and for the fact that the rich & famous like to hang out there. Think Brighton, or the Hamptons. The mental image of a band of marauders razing some snobby oyster bar just does something for me...

That's exactly what happened after 9 euro ticket was introduced. The punks invading Westerland! ?


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I wonder if the new marauders are an answer from GW to the very pretty Northern Alliance Barbarians from Mantic?

Well that's a surprise!

Nice sculpts, but man, just was not ready for new plastic units, for them to be replacing an existing plastic kit, and for it to be Chaos Marauders. Nice update though.

 Crimson wrote:
The models are nice, but it is a bit silly as they very recently did a chaos marauder revamp for AoS. But I guess GW's weird insistence of keeping the model lines separate means that marauder lovers of both systems now have a ton of different sculpts to choose from.

I share the bafflement at the insistence of keeping the ranges so separate, especially when it means not having units, factions, or particular sculpts in Old World because they're still in use in AoS. That said, if this in any way indicates a future strategy (too early to say), I might be on board with it: having parallel lines with a bit more high fantasy in AoS (like: scantly clad barbarians) and more grimdarky style in Old World (like the more Norse-inpsired Norscans). I know Warhammer Fantasy was never strictly one thing or another, with massive over-the-top things in some games/stories/editions/armies and a much more understated, realistic and gritty atmosphere at other times, but as a fan of the latter, this could be a welcome development and an actually positive outcome from this split.

My thoughts on the name went to LotR:

Where was Gondor when the Westerland fell?

Hey, these would look effing superb atop the Chaos War Mammoth.

 Hellebore wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

I did my best to resize the warrior using the mini-bases as a guide:



I'll stick with my Bearmen of Urslo...

Doesn't seem to be much in it. You could slightly build up the warrior's base to give it a few mm height and it wouldn't be noticeable.

These models just look awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing what other releases are coming because this says something really positive about their commitment to the game.

Agreed. I'm also pleasantly surprised that they seem a bit more...restrained than you typically expect from modern GW. Certainly a huge step up from those abysmal Bretonnian foot knights. I hope it'll be possible to squeeze them on to 25s despite being STANCED and quite actively posed though, so far I've managed to stick with my approach of 6th edition base sizes with expander-trays if I ever start TOW and it'd be good to continue with that.

 Astmeister wrote:
I wonder if the new marauders are an answer from GW to the very pretty Northern Alliance Barbarians from Mantic?

If they are, I will be happy as I just managed to get 3 Northern Alliance Army boxes at half price. Combined with Shieldwolf Shieldmaidens, Victrix Vikings and Rus, I am going to be able to have a really varied and styled army. I will just need to find a way to Chaos-ify them up. If I get the GW Battalion box for these miniatures, I might make the Marauders and Horsemen into character models, considering how detailed they are.

One of the choices for the Marauder unit is Great Weapons, so I will be interested to see what those end up looking like.

The Northern Alliance Clansmen are kind of too old to be something GW would react to them now

Yet Mantic announced in September that the Varangur (the evil northmen) are getting their own full model line.

So if (big if) GW is reacting to Mantics releases, it would be more likely that they try to get their models out first and not after.