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The current barbarians have 25mm bases and I think that was also the case in 6th edition when they were released (about 25 years ago).

So I guess we are seeing all new Armies before the old ones getting their refresh

Finally, a Path to Glory campaign lets you take a 500 point army on the warpath, growing them in size and strength as you play, accompanied by three new scenarios themed around the Marauders. You’ll need Arcane Journal: The War of Settra’s Fury for the campaign and three Battle March size scenarios, and Ravening Hordes for the main Warriors of Chaos army rules.

and with this we now also know that TOW is getting the Necromunda treatment in book releases

 warboss wrote:
I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

I did my best to resize the warrior using the mini-bases as a guide:



I'll stick with my Bearmen of Urslo...

they look great (i wonder if there are 5 or a full 10 unique bodies... it's hard to tell with the unit ranked up)

 Nevelon wrote:

 Londinium wrote:

 Astmeister wrote:

And it is the first time since the ToW release that a core infantry unit is updated imho?

I think so - most of the other new releases have been character models or centrepiece things like the Bone Dragon.

Just looked at GW’s website to see what marauders were for sale, and was shocked to see those old guys. Not only are they ancient, but also horrible models. Not enough rose colored nostalgia to make them look good. They cannot have been selling many of those old kits. Especially since “feral warriors from the cold north” is not exactly a bespoke niche of minis that only they were providing.

Yeah, the old Marauder infantry were always pretty terrible looking in my opinion. I could never bring myself to buy any. These new ones look great.

Well well well. We finally got propper barbarians.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Those maruaders look really nice and remind me of the hill tribes from Game of Thrones.

Spoiler:

I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

Largely, what was 20mm is now 25mm and what was 25mm is now 30mm.

Also, these are great.

Ironically, Marauders are not one of the 25mm that switched to 30mm. They're still on 25s.

I think these lads will be on 30s now

Heck those look darn fantastic!!!!!

Fantastic to see and yeah now anything is possible with a big core model army update on the fly like this!

Hopefully it’s the Skellington next.

Do a basic Skellington for Wet and Dry Dead, then package with suitable upgrade Sprues?

I'm actually kinda worried they will drop new TK skeletons now....and by that I mean I finally wont have an excuse not to buy them.

Two core units resculpted for an Old World faction? Excellent news.

Excellent kits, and even better, they are for TOW

Those marauders are fantastic. Even if I never get any army of them I'd love to paint up a small warband. I'm curious about changes to the rules for them. The article says "New miniatures means new unit profiles" so I wonder what they're going to modify. Maybe they'll be getting an extra strength or the equivalent of a lion cloak to represent the attire of the new miniatures.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hopefully it’s the Skellington next.

Do a basic Skellington for Wet and Dry Dead, then package with suitable upgrade Sprues?

There's already a great set of skeletons for wet undead, I'd rather a bespoke tomb king undead. Other than being a skeleton they'd have very little in common. If done well they'd have different weapons, different armour, different banners and different armoured heads.

Vorian wrote:

 warboss wrote:

I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

Largely, what was 20mm is now 25mm and what was 25mm is now 30mm.

Thanks! So likely noticeably bigger but not hugely (pun intended so). I've been rebasing some RPG figs from 25mm circular to 30mm circular and it's a bigger bump than expected but not unreasonablely so.


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 KidCthulhu wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

I did my best to resize the warrior using the mini-bases as a guide:

Thanks! I'm not up on my Chaos lore in WHFB/OW but I was under the impression that Chaos warriors were the cream of the crop of the norseman and therefore typically the biggest and baddest even before you include the armor. Scale creep is just a thing that's been going on with GW for decades so it's a trope to complain about it most of the time but, in this case, with the massive improvement in the sculpts I'm completely ok with that trade off (like I also was in 40k with the Primaris Intercessors with Mk X armor).

Wow did not have new marauders on my bingo card this year. But his concerns me:

Every miniature has a choice of two heads, and their shields and hand weapons are interchangeable so you’ll be able to build varied units.

Older kits were totally modular with any head or arm fitting any body, not sure if 2 heads per body means each body can use one or two heads, or that the kit had 40 heads for 20 bodies. Hopefully the latter.

Modern GW models look like a series of clouds coming together and congealing into a body and there's literally nobody we can complain to about it and get change.

They do look bigger than Chaos Warriors, but the company has a secret hack to solve this, you just buy the old Chaos Warriors box, THEN you buy the new AOS Chaos Warriors box, at like $8 a guy or whatever, then you throw the old models away, you don't need them, but you keep the square bases, then bam!, you base the new Chaos Warriors on square bases, now they're Old World legal and all to scale.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Wow did not have new marauders on my bingo card this year. But his concerns me:

Every miniature has a choice of two heads, and their shields and hand weapons are interchangeable so you’ll be able to build varied units.

Older kits were totally modular with any head or arm fitting any body, not sure if 2 heads per body means each body can use one or two heads, or that the kit had 40 heads for 20 bodies. Hopefully the latter.

Seems fairly clearly worded as the former.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Those maruaders look really nice and remind me of the hill tribes from Game of Thrones.

Spoiler:

I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

Largely, what was 20mm is now 25mm and what was 25mm is now 30mm.

Also, these are great.

Ironically, Marauders are not one of the 25mm that switched to 30mm. They're still on 25s.

The 90s maruaders were all on 20mm bases, which was awkward as they had to have a 25mm Chaos warrior as their unit champion. Their plastic selves were originally on 20mm bases as well

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Those maruaders look really nice and remind me of the hill tribes from Game of Thrones.

Spoiler:

I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

Largely, what was 20mm is now 25mm and what was 25mm is now 30mm.

Also, these are great.

Ironically, Marauders are not one of the 25mm that switched to 30mm. They're still on 25s.

The 90s maruaders were all on 20mm bases, which was awkward as they had to have a 25mm Chaos warrior as their unit champion. Their plastic selves were originally on 20mm bases as well

My plastics are from the original release and they have 25s.

JWBS wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Wow did not have new marauders on my bingo card this year. But his concerns me:

Every miniature has a choice of two heads, and their shields and hand weapons are interchangeable so you’ll be able to build varied units.

Older kits were totally modular with any head or arm fitting any body, not sure if 2 heads per body means each body can use one or two heads, or that the kit had 40 heads for 20 bodies. Hopefully the latter.

Seems fairly clearly worded as the former.

In addition to that, I would expect the beards to be a major limiting factor.

Pretty sure 90s metal marauders were 20, the plastic marauders that replaced them were 25.

 Astmeister wrote:
There were also the very pretty Knight on foot for bretonia but this is core infantry!

Are elyrian Reavers core?

These guys were updated also

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Vorian wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Those maruaders look really nice and remind me of the hill tribes from Game of Thrones.

Spoiler:

I'll echo the concerns about the potential scale creep as, like Jon Snow, I know nothing about the base sizes in Old World compared with classic WHFB. Are those the same size square bases they used for decades?

Largely, what was 20mm is now 25mm and what was 25mm is now 30mm.

Also, these are great.

Ironically, Marauders are not one of the 25mm that switched to 30mm. They're still on 25s.

The 90s maruaders were all on 20mm bases, which was awkward as they had to have a 25mm Chaos warrior as their unit champion. Their plastic selves were originally on 20mm bases as well

My plastics are from the original release and they have 25s.

Wild. My memory, of being so annoyed by having to rank up my metal marauders, insisted that the problem persisted into the plastic era! My brain is rotting...

Ellyrian reavers were only slightly updated to have an individual sprue instead of the old combined sprue from Blood Island starter Box (or whatever the name was).

These marauders are totally new.

 frankelee wrote:
Pretty sure 90s metal marauders were 20, the plastic marauders that replaced them were 25.

Was this the first instance of GW changing a unit's base size?

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 frankelee wrote:
Pretty sure 90s metal marauders were 20, the plastic marauders that replaced them were 25.

Was this the first instance of GW changing a unit's base size?

No, it happened several times. Minotaurs were on 25mm bases for a while, then switched to 40mm, for example.

Bah, the new marauders dont even have iconic sculpted eyebrows -how can I take these serious?

Jokes aside though, these guys looks incredible to me. Great news for the game as a whole. O frabjous day!

These are great. No notes, no criticism, just nailed it. I always liked Norscan-flavoured Marauders over Arnie Barbarian style.

I do have a bit of sadness at the retirement of the horsemen plastics, those were much better than the infantry and have been a great source of bitz over the years, but the new ones are pretty sick so I'll get over it.

Think I'll grab a box of each when they come out on their own and expand my Mordheim warband of Norscan sea raiders into a ~500pt WHFB army.

The models are nice, but it is a bit silly as they very recently did a chaos marauder revamp for AoS. But I guess GW's weird insistence of keeping the model lines separate means that marauder lovers of both systems now have a ton of different sculpts to choose from.

Tim the Biovore wrote:Absolutely love them, perfect designs

In hindsight though, man, Tomb Kings really keep getting shafted with the plastic updates, huh. Throw the Skeleton Warriors a bone, or 206.

Well,Tomb Kings are featured in the new edition of Blood Bowl, so maybe an update for Old World too?