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Anung Un Rama wrote:I really enjoyed Mark Millars inital run on the Ultimates, but a lot of his comics seem to be very violent. I usually don't have problems with fictional violence in movies or games, but it always feels like Millar gives his artists some very specific instructions and the result makes me squirm a bit.
My local comic shop is getting a lot of my money these days. Just last week I bought the Arkham City TPB and when I came by today they had the 3rd Streets of Gotham TPB, the Hush finale, if I'm not mistaken.
Ouze wrote:So I was flipping though some old comics the other day, and I came across some of my old Aliens\Predator etc stuff. You guys ever read Batman vs Predator? I know team ups and movie crossovers and generally a sure-fire recipe for mediocrity, but it was a really awesome story. Great writing, art was by one of the Kuberts. I highly recommend it.
They apparently did 2 more of those, and each one was strongly in the crap camp I thought the first one would be. Avoid those.
The first one is one of my favorite storylines... I didn't like the 2nd one as much... never read the third.
Loving Poison Ivy in BoP, could very quickly become a favourite comic depending on how it goes.
Tried Uncanny X-men 1, but couldn't get into it, didn't like some of the redesigns, but I'm still struggling with this, nearly all mutants are dead/depowered storyline.
I always hoped the age of apocalypse would be a future that was avoidable, or so far off it would never really come to light other than the odd time travel escapade. Having it so firmly entrenched on the horizon is a big turn off for me.
"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
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reds8n wrote:Sure some of you saw the Jim lee redesign of Darkseid t'other day
which.. well.... It's Darkseid, as drawn by Jim Lee ? .... Should have stuck with the design in the early Morrison JLA run, that was a Darkseid to be a fear't of.
Read the latest JL, and thought it was interesting that...
Spoiler:
...Cyborg's tech is apparently of Apokalyptan (sp?) origin.
I'm reading House of Hush now and I love it. I fething hate Tommy Elliot but I think that's one of the reasons I can't get enough of this series. Bedbug is similar -- gross, creepy, in need of an ass-whupping? -- check, check, and check. Sometimes it's good to have villains that you enjoy seeing fail rather than always having ones with whom you can sympathize. Nobody draws Damian as well as Dustin Nguyen so, yeah, I wish there was more Dick & Damian. OTOH, it's good to see more with Bruce loving on Selina -- Heart of Hush is one of my all-time favorite Bat-stories. The only other woman I can even stand to see Batman with is Talia. It's kind of like with Dick -- it's either gotta be Babs or Starfire (although maybe not Starfire any more ...). Nothing else seems meaningful; just more potential ladies in refrigerators.
I read Noel last night and found it to be thoroughly ... okay. Jim Lee gives it a glowing foreward that I can't help but feel oversells the book. The art is absolutely great but far from iconic, as with some of Lee Bermejo's other work. Although Mr. Bermejo is obviously a fine artist he won't be putting any writers out of work with this entry.
There are some nice set-ups and while they are never over-played they also don't seem to really satisfy. Superman is in it, for example, as the Spirit of Christmas Present. Whenever Bats and Supes both happen to be in a pensive mood, there's the possibility for some really heavy conversation. Mr. Bermejo wisely keeps it relatively light here. (Pay attention Kevin Smith, you ass!) Superman gives us a fairly convincing "milk of human kindness" perspective but, like the rest of the book, Mr. Bermejo just manages to avoid really yanking on the heart strings, which is how the Christmas Carol is supposed to work. Encounters with Catwoman (Christmas Past) and the Joker (Christmas Future) are even less fulfilling, considering what they might have been. Maybe he needed more pages?
The best idea here, however, is framing Batman as Scrooge. It works very, very well at the beginning of the story even if it's almost hard to accept at first. But the metaphor becomes less and less apt as the book drives forward. In Dickens's Christmas Carol, Scrooge has a change of heart and becomes open to the love and joy and peace that he formerly renounced. This can't really happen with Batman. If it did, Batman would have to retire. But Mr. Bermejo blithely ignores this, what could be an excellent gothic, tragic twist, and shoehorns a "he wants people to remember him as noble" angle in that doesn't make a lot of sense from any perspective, least of all Bruce's.
I think Mr. Bermejo knew this was a thin spot in his story. Noel's narrator tells us at the beginning of the book that we have to believe that people can change if the story is going to make sense. The problem is that Bruce doesn't change -- but, hey, tell that to Peter Tomasi, who has Bats celebrating his parents' wedding anniversary instead of commemorating the day of their murder. We'll see, as the years go by, if Mr. Tomasi's contribution in that regard "sticks." (Can you tell that I'm doubtful?)
To sum up, Noel's a nice book and well worth the cover price for any Bat-fan. How can I say that after seemingly panning it? Well, it's a thoughtful book. It really made me think about my favorite character in a new light -- not bad for me since I've been thinking about this 72-year-old character for the last 26 years. The art, while not establishing any new standard for Batman, is a very fine treat. The cityscapes are pitch-perfect (I hope whoever gets a hold of the film franchise after Nolan will read this book) and the visual pacing of the story is very, very engaging.
Noel may not be a book that we'll talk about ten years from now but that's fine with me. They can't all be gold and silver ain't bad.
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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Loving Poison Ivy in BoP, could very quickly become a favourite comic depending on how it goes.
Tried Uncanny X-men 1, but couldn't get into it, didn't like some of the redesigns, but I'm still struggling with this, nearly all mutants are dead/depowered storyline.
That's because the group has splintered into Team Cyclops and Team Wolverine. Team Cyclops is the almost-villianous rogue state guys. Check out Wolverine & The X-Men for more old school x-men stuff. Seeing Wolverine struggle as the headmaster of a school is actually pretty funny.
My last order from the UK arrived: Hush Beyond. And I friggin' loved it. The best Batman Beyond episodes where when Terry met older Bat-villians and partners and this comic delivers. The writer really got the flair of the show right too. Especially old Bruce yelling "McGuiness!" in his headset all the time
Seriously, I need more Beyond comics!
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:I still haven't even seen the Return of the Joker movie.
You should change that. ASAP. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is the best "episode" the entire show had. It brings everything that makes Beyond so much fun and is a another great duett between Mark Hammil and Kevin Conroy.
All the Invisibles. All of it. In one book. 1536 pages worth. The Invisibles Omnibus collecting The Invisibles Volume 1 #1-25, Volume 2 #1-22, Volume 3 #12-1 and the short story from Vertigo Winters Edge #1. All written by Grant Morrison, with art from the likes of Steve Yeowell, Jilll Thompson, Dennis Cramer, Chris Weston, John Ridgway, Steve Parkhouse, Kim DeMulder, Paul Johnson, Phil Jimenez, John Stokes, Tommy Lee Edwards, Dick Giordano, Mark Buckingham, Mark Pennington, Michael Lark, Keith Aiken, Marc Hempel, Ray Kryssing, Philip Bond, Glyn Dillon, Ivan Reis, Warren Pleece, Sean Phillips, Jay Stephens, Frank Quitely and… Grant Morrison himself.
got all the original series, been, slowly, picking up the tdpbks, but this is great news indeed.
This is one of the best comic book series ever written, if you're even vaguely into the modern sci fi/fantasy genre then this is pretty much essential IMO. The Jimienez illustrated sections are especially gorgeous, even by his standards.
Not due until August 2012, so plenty of time to save pennies too.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude
All the Invisibles. All of it. In one book. 1536 pages worth. The Invisibles Omnibus collecting The Invisibles Volume 1 #1-25, Volume 2 #1-22, Volume 3 #12-1 and the short story from Vertigo Winters Edge #1. All written by Grant Morrison, with art from the likes of Steve Yeowell, Jilll Thompson, Dennis Cramer, Chris Weston, John Ridgway, Steve Parkhouse, Kim DeMulder, Paul Johnson, Phil Jimenez, John Stokes, Tommy Lee Edwards, Dick Giordano, Mark Buckingham, Mark Pennington, Michael Lark, Keith Aiken, Marc Hempel, Ray Kryssing, Philip Bond, Glyn Dillon, Ivan Reis, Warren Pleece, Sean Phillips, Jay Stephens, Frank Quitely and… Grant Morrison himself.
got all the original series, been, slowly, picking up the tdpbks, but this is great news indeed.
This is one of the best comic book series ever written, if you're even vaguely into the modern sci fi/fantasy genre then this is pretty much essential IMO. The Jimienez illustrated sections are especially gorgeous, even by his standards.
Not due until August 2012, so plenty of time to save pennies too.
Has anyone read Daredevil: Shadowland? I saw it at the local comic store in 2 TPBs. Seemed like another DD story where he gets a lot of help from Luke, Spidey and Iron Fist and I usually like those stories.
I skipped that whole thing. It is poorly reviewed and I've never really followed DD anyway. I think actually DD is the bad guy in it but I'm not sure. All I know is Black Panter is basically the new DD and "The Man Without Fear."
You know who's a pretty bad artist? Rob Liefeld. I was collecting Infinite because of the writer but I just can't take it anymore. Unfortunately still have one on order.
Still working my way through the pages of Crimiinal. Also read
Astro City: Dark Ages conclusion. Fantastic read! Somehow
Busiek creates storylines that fit a decade's worth of material
into the time span of just a single trade volume.
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Reading Deadpool Classics 3, thank again to Canuck for recommending it. While I love the current Deadpool in stories like Merc with a Mouth or Hit Monkey, this "old" 'pool is way more interesting as a character. He still wants to be a hero (and I thought that was a new thing) but in this classic version he has some real problems getting there. He's not crazy, more like "broken", which, if you think about it, fits the character.
Anung Un Rama wrote:Reading Deadpool Classics 3, thank again to Canuck for recommending it. While I love the current Deadpool in stories like Merc with a Mouth or Hit Monkey, this "old" 'pool is way more interesting as a character. He still wants to be a hero (and I thought that was a new thing) but in this classic version he has some real problems getting there. He's not crazy, more like "broken", which, if you think about it, fits the character.
Your welcome. Ya, when bad things happen to him in that I actually feel bad for him. Now he's just a cartoon character. What issue does that get too?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I suspect/wonder if we might well see Bruce Wayne step down or be injured and replaced, perhaps indeed by the mentioned cop. If so i reckon that person will die or be killed which will lead to Bruce Wayne's return.
Just a guess.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
