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Solar Auxilia was, at least for me, the most beautifull Imperial Guard army.

Just look at those elite units, and that commander. But as others have said, all the times I have thought of starting a force with them its was like... this is the worst point-€ ratio ever.

Maybe I'll try to buy the command squad, at least, to make an army using plastic Tempestus Scions. But 70pounds-80€ is so insane... for that price I can buy SO many other Warhammer things. They are more expensive than a dammed Adeptus Custodes Achillus Dreadnought FFS!

"Hey, a new transport for your army that we just discontinued." you FW.

 Peregrine wrote:
"Hey, a new transport for your army that we just discontinued." you FW.

My thoughts exactly. It's so strange.

Solar Auxilia are so beautiful. I'd love to build an army of them, but it's just not going to happen. They cost far too much and there are no short cut options. If they made a boxed game including them (like BaC, BoP) it'd be a game changer.

Always fun when FW is forcing my hand. I've wanted a handful of Elysians to go with my Inquisitor, so I guess I'll have to order them today to be sure. I suppose I'd use them as Acolytes, but I wanted to see how the rules for Inquisitors turn out. I guess I'll need to place an order and just shelf the kit(s) until I know exactly how to use them.

I mean, I only really need 6 of them, so I'm thinking of getting one or both command squads as well as the weapons pack. I'd like to equip at least two of them with Plasma guns, aside from that I don't really know, except I know they clearly cannot be equipped with lasguns or shotguns. I'd appreciate advice on this.

In case anyone care to know, I've already got a fairly large DKoK army, and Elysians would contrast nicely with them as well as serving as a narrative device.

 Peregrine wrote:
"Hey, a new transport for your army that we just discontinued." you FW.

The only stuff I see going to Last Chance is the medic character, two gun platforms, the pintle gunners and the decal sheet.

Not sure that equates to "discontinued" line. Especially when they just released a new transport.

Forge World Hey guys
We are moving some models out of the range at the moment to make room for future releases - much as we'd love to, we can't carry on making every model forever and still release new ones.
We knew that you guys would want to know, so you had a chance to complete any unfinished forces before they go, so rather than remove them without warning - we've put them on "Last Chance to Buy".
As with any model that that we remove from the range, there's no guarantee it will come back or not, so If you do want to add these to your army or finish off an Elysian's force, we'd suggest you pick them up now.

Basically, in other words: hurry up, buy what's left and gtfo.

It's healthier if you think of FW as a couple of guys working out of their garage. Then their business decisions make more 'sense'.

There are countless examples, but one of my favorites is legion dice. They sold, but FW discontinued them when they apparently had some issues with the supplier. Now they go for a lot of money on the secondary market. Especially in light of that, you'd think that they would have found another supplier in the 14(?) months since they discontinued them. They'd be profitable, and it's not like they'd be a drain on FW resources, right? But nah. Dice are boring, so they moved on.

Two guys in a garage, and it all makes sense.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

The only stuff I see going to Last Chance is the medic character, two gun platforms, the pintle gunners and the decal sheet.

It doesn't exactly bode well for the rest of the line though. Discontinuing some of the DKOK tanks is disconcerting too. I wanted to order some of the turrets last year, but they were gone then already, and when I e-mailed them they told me that they are not coming back.

Note that the DKOK LRBT complete kits are still there, it's just the separate turrets going OOP.

If GW were smart they'd snap up the Solar Auxilia range and sell that as the default IG army under a new name (does the auxilia still exist? I don't think so, as it was part of the Imperial Army), the idea being that with Roboute's return and the custodes actually doing something for once the Sol's system IG regiments are also getting into the fight.

They probably won't though. Its more likely those noble guys will become the default army now that Cadia is broken.

 Peregrine wrote:
Note that the DKOK LRBT complete kits are still there, it's just the separate turrets going OOP.

Except Exterminator full kit is going. It is possible that the others will soon follow.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
If GW were smart they'd snap up the Solar Auxilia range and sell that as the default IG army under a new name (does the auxilia still exist? I don't think so, as it was part of the Imperial Army), the idea being that with Roboute's return and the custodes actually doing something for once the Sol's system IG regiments are also getting into the fight.

They probably won't though. Its more likely those noble guys will become the default army now that Cadia is broken.

The would also make great carapace veterans... if carapace veterans still were a thing...

 Crimson wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

The only stuff I see going to Last Chance is the medic character, two gun platforms, the pintle gunners and the decal sheet.

It doesn't exactly bode well for the rest of the line though.

I would agree if they didn't literally just put up a new model for that line .

 scottmmmm wrote:
Solar Auxilia are so beautiful. I'd love to build an army of them, but it's just not going to happen. They cost far too much and there are no short cut options. If they made a boxed game including them (like BaC, BoP) it'd be a game changer.

Yeah, while I am not keen on XIX century diver look, these look really nice and unlike all other FW and GW human ranges are truly unique. It's really mind boggling that after the success of Overlords from AoS (that sold very well thanks to similar aesthetic) no one thought of making HH III game with them vs say Mk V Sons of Horus. GSC sold very well in similar game box, too, why not exploit one of your best designs to literally print money?

 gorgon wrote:
Two guys in a garage, and it all makes sense.

You know, people whine all the time on the period GW was dictated by ex-salesman, but this is exactly what FW needs. Someone with common sense, knowledge of range, and economic knowledge to stop them from putting fingers in too many pies and to adequately support what they already made instead of always chasing new project, sometimes really harebrained. Someone who would throw Valdor design into garbage bin pile ordering it to be redone, and also took more care in ensuring 'boring' stuff like paints, dice, decals, and other accessories driving sales aren't neglected...

Forgive me for overthinking this, but is the Aurox the primogenitor of some modern-day 40K vehicle like this thing is.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Forgive me for overthinking this, but is the Aurox the primogenitor of some modern-day 40K vehicle like this thing is.

It certainly comes across as some kind of 30k Chimera, except without the weapons and the turret. Everything else is there.

Well, put in an order for Solar Auxilia. Missesd the rapiers, but ah well. You win some and loose some...

 Irbis wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Two guys in a garage, and it all makes sense.

You know, people whine all the time on the period GW was dictated by ex-salesman, but this is exactly what FW needs. Someone with common sense, knowledge of range, and economic knowledge to stop them from putting fingers in too many pies and to adequately support what they already made instead of always chasing new project, sometimes really harebrained. Someone who would throw Valdor design into garbage bin pile ordering it to be redone, and also took more care in ensuring 'boring' stuff like paints, dice, decals, and other accessories driving sales aren't neglected...

FW is what it is. They do a lot of great stuff because those items are labors of love. But because FW is very inspiration-driven, support can seem spotty or just plain strange at times.

Look at the HH line. The next black book is scheduled for late 2018, which probably means spring 2019 in FW time. Even if they get it out by Christmas, it'll still be almost two years between black books. Releasing a game in the form of a series of beautiful $100+ art books is already wonderfully insane. Put years between them though, and suddenly the whole thing becomes less sustainable. People find other things to do with their lives, right? Losing Alan Bligh's imagination was a big blow, but losing Alan Bligh the 30K product champion might eventually prove to be a critical hit. It was his labor of love, and that love of his really driving the thing for everyone else there. Meanwhile, the Specialist Games team is dealing with real GW-style deadlines and pressures, and not FW 'we'll sell them when we finish them' deadlines.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Forgive me for overthinking this, but is the Aurox the primogenitor of some modern-day 40K vehicle like this thing is.

Dunno what you intended to link to, but the Vultarax is related to the Blight Drone if anything. Looking close at the Aurox it is obvious that it's a Leman Russ/Chimera hybrid. The front of the track section is just vertically flipped. The crew compartment is a cutout of the Chimera hull. The engine module seems highly improvised with an exhaust like that. So if anything, this is the precursor to the actual Chimera, once its STC patterns were found a couple of hundred/thousand years later.

In other notes: Forgeworld have also outdone themselves again with the special offer of 3 Auroxes for the price of.......3 Auroxes.

Edit: I'm stupid, its actually the Malcador Track section, just slightly shortenend. The sponson guns have been replaced by doors, front part flipped.

Can’t beat that deal!

GiToRaZor wrote:
Dunno what you intended to link to, but the Vultarax is related to the Blight Drone if anything.

Which is precisely why I linked to it.

GiToRaZor wrote:
Edit: I'm stupid, its actually the Malcador Track section, just slightly shortenend. The sponson guns have been replaced by doors, front part flipped.

Oh, well, there you go.

Solar Auxilia Quad multi-laser and decals have already sold out.

I don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.

bummed to hear the skullcracker is discontinued, I figured the CD line would eventually start to crumble, this must be the beginning of the cycle.

Maybe it would be better if they instead did things cyclically. I realize they can't keep everything from 20+ years in stock at all times regardless of the demand (or lack thereof) but it would be nice if they spun up certain older, less popular things on maybe a yearly or biannual basis with just enough for preorders and a little bit extra until the mould wears out.

 warboss wrote:
Maybe it would be better if they instead did things cyclically. I realize they can't keep everything from 20+ years in stock at all times regardless of the demand (or lack thereof) but it would be nice if they spun up certain older, less popular things on maybe a yearly or biannual basis with just enough for preorders and a little bit extra until the mould wears out.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too forward thinking for a GW-adjacent company to do.

 Zingraff wrote:
I don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.

I would wager if we had sales data and the cost of refreshing the molds it would make sense.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Zingraff wrote:
I don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.

I would wager if we had sales data and the cost of refreshing the molds it would make sense.

And I wonder what that sales data looks like given the scope of Chinese and Russian recasters of those old lines. I guarantee that has put a major hurt on their bottom line.

Funnily enough, if you neglect a faction for literally years and make it very expensive £ - points, people stop buying it.

What was the last IA Elysians featured in that wasn't a re-issue? 8? That's less than a month shy of being 8 years old and in that time they've had no new models and the most perfunctory rules support for changing editions.

Not surprised to see them going, sad to see it happen.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Zingraff wrote:
I don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.

I would wager if we had sales data and the cost of refreshing the molds it would make sense.

And I wonder what that sales data looks like given the scope of Chinese and Russian recasters of those old lines. I guarantee that has put a major hurt on their bottom line.

That's certainly and unfortunately true. When they do this with models, it's basically FW saying 'we give up, you guys make them.' Of course, eye-watering prices tends to drive people elsewhere. Not saying that action is justified, mind you...just saying there's a likely cause.

Now, dumping SA decals...gonna file that one under 'two guys in a garage'.

 gorgon wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Zingraff wrote:
I don't understand why they're doing this to themselves.

I would wager if we had sales data and the cost of refreshing the molds it would make sense.

And I wonder what that sales data looks like given the scope of Chinese and Russian recasters of those old lines. I guarantee that has put a major hurt on their bottom line.

That's certainly and unfortunately true. When they do this with models, it's basically FW saying 'we give up, you guys make them.' Of course, eye-watering prices tends to drive people elsewhere. Not saying that action is justified, mind you...just saying there's a likely cause.

Now, dumping SA decals...gonna file that one under 'two guys in a garage'.

I am such a foolish fanboy that I am holding out hope it is just them dumping in favor of a better updated sheet (or ideally, sheets), like how they updated most of the Legions. It probably isn't though.