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Xalapa, Veracruz

I'm BETA TESTING the App.

Something works, something don't, like the fact that the fact that it won't register your Battleline Dragon army despite meeting the requirements. It also can't identify when you have an artifact that gives your Hero the Wizard Keyword.

Then, they updated there the warscrolls they didn't in the webstore; Megabosses are all insane.

Funny to mention that, while building my Stegageddon list, they stop counting Stegadons as Behemoths in Thunder Lizards armies at all, so you have to count them as Troops instead. Same story with BCR.

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That last bit is correct; the battleline replaces behemoth.

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Florence, KY

 CMLR wrote:
Funny to mention that, while building my Stegageddon list, they stop counting Stegadons as Behemoths in Thunder Lizards armies at all, so you have to count them as Troops instead. Same story with BCR.

That should be correct according to the 'Conditional Battlefield Roles' rule:

25.5.1 CONDITIONAL BATTLEFIELD ROLES
Sometimes, the Notes column on a Pitched Battle profile will tell you to change the battlefield role of units of that type if certain conditions are met. For example, choosing a certain model to be your general can mean the battlefield role of certain units changes to Battleline. Where this is the case, unless noted otherwise, the unit loses all of the battlefield roles in the Battlefield Role column of its Pitched Battle profile and just has the battlefield role specified in the Notes column instead

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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 Ghaz wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
Funny to mention that, while building my Stegageddon list, they stop counting Stegadons as Behemoths in Thunder Lizards armies at all, so you have to count them as Troops instead. Same story with BCR.

That should be correct according to the 'Conditional Battlefield Roles' rule:

25.5.1 CONDITIONAL BATTLEFIELD ROLES
Sometimes, the Notes column on a Pitched Battle profile will tell you to change the battlefield role of units of that type if certain conditions are met. For example, choosing a certain model to be your general can mean the battlefield role of certain units changes to Battleline. Where this is the case, unless noted otherwise, the unit loses all of the battlefield roles in the Battlefield Role column of its Pitched Battle profile and just has the battlefield role specified in the Notes column instead


Yes, that's Battleline. Not Troop. I thought it was not clarified for Battalions.

Also to note, they DID put Legion of the First Prince as it's own faction, instead of a subfaction in StD.
   
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 CMLR wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
Funny to mention that, while building my Stegageddon list, they stop counting Stegadons as Behemoths in Thunder Lizards armies at all, so you have to count them as Troops instead. Same story with BCR.

That should be correct according to the 'Conditional Battlefield Roles' rule:

25.5.1 CONDITIONAL BATTLEFIELD ROLES
Sometimes, the Notes column on a Pitched Battle profile will tell you to change the battlefield role of units of that type if certain conditions are met. For example, choosing a certain model to be your general can mean the battlefield role of certain units changes to Battleline. Where this is the case, unless noted otherwise, the unit loses all of the battlefield roles in the Battlefield Role column of its Pitched Battle profile and just has the battlefield role specified in the Notes column instead


Yes, that's Battleline. Not Troop. I thought it was not clarified for Battalions.

Also to note, they DID put Legion of the First Prince as it's own faction, instead of a subfaction in StD.


A Troop is just a unit that isn't a Leader, Artillery or Behemoth, which a Stegadon in Thunder Lizards qualifies for (it is not a Leader, Artillery, or Behemoth).

Also, yes, Legion of the First Prince was never a subfaction of StD and if you were expecting it to be there for some reason, I don't know what to tell you. In other, similar news, Stormcast Eternals are also not a subfaction in StD.
   
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Rihgu wrote:
A Troop is just a unit that isn't a Leader, Artillery or Behemoth, which a Stegadon in Thunder Lizards qualifies for (it is not a Leader, Artillery, or Behemoth).

Agreed. A Thunder Lizards Stegadon would not be a 'Monster' unit for a Core Battalion. It would be a 'Troops' unit.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 CMLR wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
Funny to mention that, while building my Stegageddon list, they stop counting Stegadons as Behemoths in Thunder Lizards armies at all, so you have to count them as Troops instead. Same story with BCR.

That should be correct according to the 'Conditional Battlefield Roles' rule:

25.5.1 CONDITIONAL BATTLEFIELD ROLES
Sometimes, the Notes column on a Pitched Battle profile will tell you to change the battlefield role of units of that type if certain conditions are met. For example, choosing a certain model to be your general can mean the battlefield role of certain units changes to Battleline. Where this is the case, unless noted otherwise, the unit loses all of the battlefield roles in the Battlefield Role column of its Pitched Battle profile and just has the battlefield role specified in the Notes column instead


Yes, that's Battleline. Not Troop. I thought it was not clarified for Battalions.

Also to note, they DID put Legion of the First Prince as it's own faction, instead of a subfaction in StD.


Battlefield role includes behemoth. It's not behemoth anymore and thus in bttalion fits to troop. It says right vhere loses all of battlefield roles...That is also why Thunderlizard can fit as many stegadon as points allow.

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Thank you everyone, but are you BETA TESTING the app right now?

You can't put any SoB Battalion at all.

And yes, Legion of the First Prince was (kind of) in the previous StD Battletome.
   
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 CMLR wrote:


And yes, Legion of the First Prince was (kind of) in the previous StD Battletome.

It was a Chaos Grand Alliance army. It was very strange. Will be interesting where they put it if it's kept.

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 CMLR wrote:
And yes, Legion of the First Prince was (kind of) in the previous StD Battletome.

No. This is the Slaves to Darkness battletome:

Spoiler:


While there was a warscroll for Be'lakor in the Slaves to Darkness battletome, the were no rules for the Legion of the First Prince. Those rules were found in the Soul Wars: Wrath of the Everchosen book:

Spoiler:

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Xalapa, Veracruz

 Eldarain wrote:
 CMLR wrote:


And yes, Legion of the First Prince was (kind of) in the previous StD Battletome.

It was a Chaos Grand Alliance army. It was very strange. Will be interesting where they put it if it's kept.


No, it wasn't in a Grand Alliance.


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 Ghaz wrote:
 CMLR wrote:
And yes, Legion of the First Prince was (kind of) in the previous StD Battletome.

No. This is the Slaves to Darkness battletome:

Spoiler:


While there was a warscroll for Be'lakor in the Slaves to Darkness battletome, the were no rules for the Legion of the First Prince. Those rules were found in the Soul Wars: Wrath of the Everchosen book:

Spoiler:


Yeah.

Checked out that you can't place any SoB unit in any Battalion in the App?


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Great news everyone! While building my Thunder Lizard army in the BETA app:

Remember the Sub-commander? less than 10 wounds? so far, the app not only is not registering either increased wound count provided by aditional rules (Thunder Lizard monsters have two extra wounds), but your Leaders qualify as a Sub-commander if you have 10 wounds anyway.

Let's see if this gets fixed or is working as intended. The BETA still has the Doby troggoths with +1 hits missing, and SoB are not working as intended, after all.

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So checking out the app myself, the knight dracious is pretty solid.

and looks like stormdrake guard can be taken in 1s or 2s. (which I think is an indicator that the knight dracious is an optional build in a stormdrake guard pack)

Looks like a bsic all dragon army would clock in at just over 1000 points

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It is great that if one buys the kit of two and assembles the a character they now let the remainder be run as a unit instead of being left as odd-man-out.

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I'd Love to see that change for the Blightlords.

@CMLR I have the Everchosen book here and Chaos Ascendant/First Prince are their own Chaos Allegiance. What makes you think it's a Slaves subfaction?

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 Crimson Devil wrote:
That's what 7th edition is about. Yelling "Forge the Narrative Pussy!" while kicking your opponent in the dick.
 BlaxicanX wrote:
A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.


 
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It is great that if one buys the kit of two and assembles the a character they now let the remainder be run as a unit instead of being left as odd-man-out.


reminds me a little of how they did custodes

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Kind reminder to send any possible feedback to the link in the article. Sub-commanders at 10 wounds and even at 10 natural wounds AND ignoring additional wounds is massive.

BrianDavion wrote:
So checking out the app myself, the knight dracious is pretty solid.

and looks like stormdrake guard can be taken in 1s or 2s. (which I think is an indicator that the knight dracious is an optional build in a stormdrake guard pack)

Looks like a bsic all dragon army would clock in at just over 1000 points


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 Eldarain wrote:
I'd Love to see that change for the Blightlords.

@CMLR I have the Everchosen book here and Chaos Ascendant/First Prince are their own Chaos Allegiance. What makes you think it's a Slaves subfaction?


Already been corrected. It was because convenience of keywords and the oddity of a possible Battletome for LotFP.

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Sub-commanders at 10 points and even at 10 natural points AND ignoring additional wounds is massive.

What is this referring to?
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
So checking out the app myself, the knight dracious is pretty solid.

and looks like stormdrake guard can be taken in 1s or 2s. (which I think is an indicator that the knight dracious is an optional build in a stormdrake guard pack)

Looks like a bsic all dragon army would clock in at just over 1000 points


Yeah there's singles for guard to ensure the spare you get if you build hero isn't waste. In similar way you can get fulminators in singles(oddly not other variants)

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I wish they would just consolidate dracothian guard and non-thunderstike paladins into one warscroll with multiple weapon options. SCE have some serious bloat issues.

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 Eldarain wrote:
@CMLR I have the Everchosen book here and Chaos Ascendant/First Prince are their own Chaos Allegiance. What makes you think it's a Slaves subfaction?

IIRC when they previewed the SCE rule last week that calls out specific factions as being Chaos, it was interesting to note that neither "Beasts of Chaos" nor "Legion of the First Prince" were listed - and one argument as to why the latter wasn't there was that they fell under the Slaves to Darkness heading.

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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 Dysartes wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
@CMLR I have the Everchosen book here and Chaos Ascendant/First Prince are their own Chaos Allegiance. What makes you think it's a Slaves subfaction?

IIRC when they previewed the SCE rule last week that calls out specific factions as being Chaos, it was interesting to note that neither "Beasts of Chaos" nor "Legion of the First Prince" were listed - and one argument as to why the latter wasn't there was that they fell under the Slaves to Darkness heading.


just as tellingly, in the factions listing in the AOS 3.0 core rules, Belakors legion isn't listed as a faction.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
@CMLR I have the Everchosen book here and Chaos Ascendant/First Prince are their own Chaos Allegiance. What makes you think it's a Slaves subfaction?

IIRC when they previewed the SCE rule last week that calls out specific factions as being Chaos, it was interesting to note that neither "Beasts of Chaos" nor "Legion of the First Prince" were listed - and one argument as to why the latter wasn't there was that they fell under the Slaves to Darkness heading.


just as tellingly, in the factions listing in the AOS 3.0 core rules, Belakors legion isn't listed as a faction.


It is in the BETA app.
   
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We still have a mystery Kruleboyz character that has a hawk perched on his arm or shoulder correct? On page 31. Is that a unit leader for the Gut-rippas? I don't recall seeing a sprue for the Gut-rippa's yet.

I thought for sure that would be a Underworlds warband dude, but he's not in that boxed set. Perhaps a Warcry warband?


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 nels1031 wrote:
We still have a mystery Kruleboyz character that has a hawk perched on his arm or shoulder correct? On page 31. Is that a unit leader for the Gut-rippas? I don't recall seeing a sprue for the Gut-rippa's yet.

I thought for sure that would be a Underworlds warband dude, but he's not in that boxed set. Perhaps a Warcry warband?



If he's not in the Battletome and not in Underworlds... yea, must be Warcry. Bit weird he was in an army shot with battletome units.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 nels1031 wrote:
We still have a mystery Kruleboyz character that has a hawk perched on his arm or shoulder correct? On page 31. Is that a unit leader for the Gut-rippas? I don't recall seeing a sprue for the Gut-rippa's yet.

I thought for sure that would be a Underworlds warband dude, but he's not in that boxed set. Perhaps a Warcry warband?



If he's not in the Battletome and not in Underworlds... yea, must be Warcry. Bit weird he was in an army shot with battletome units.


Could also be a store opening event kind of model.
   
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 nels1031 wrote:
We still have a mystery Kruleboyz character that has a hawk perched on his arm or shoulder correct? On page 31. Is that a unit leader for the Gut-rippas? I don't recall seeing a sprue for the Gut-rippa's yet.

I thought for sure that would be a Underworlds warband dude, but he's not in that boxed set. Perhaps a Warcry warband?


Might be from the crossbowmen box whenever that releases.

There was a mention of this during the "Dominion Celebration", which showed off the full kit:
Alongside them are the Man-skewer Boltboyz with a new Boltboy Boss option.
   
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Ah, good catch.

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The Boltboy boss is the one with the backbanner he's already been shown,

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/07/03/warhammer-preview-online-dominion-celebration/

This either a Warcry warband or a later release revealed accidently.

   
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Right behind you.

...or it's parts in the box, which I didn't think I would have to explain but apparently do?

Yes. They showed one with a banner on his back.
   
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It's a box of 3 and none of the bodies match they don't have lower leg armour,the clothing is different and boltboyz don't have spears or scareshields it's not an option on the warscroll in the new app it's just too different to be a boltboy option the boss is likely just an alt head and the backbanner. Gutrippa maybe we'll know tomorrow night when the NZ store updates.

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