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There is a very cheap narrow long boat on Temu (search “resin dragon boat incense holder” there is usually a Viking style boat with shields and a Chinese type with scales and fishtail) which works well with 28mm figures, but may be too small for these new big fellas.

Are the prices for the Made to Order 4th edition empire already known?

 Fenriswulf wrote:
So, the book just has the two Marauder units in it, and no others, so it looks like I won't be able to make a focused Norsca list from it. And the upgrade in base size for their stat line is not great. Disappointing.

I bought the Revell Longship in anticipation. It's neat. Just needs a bit of Chaosifying and it'll be good.

Given that the book also requires the use of the previous Chaos arcane journal on top of the original Ravening Hordes, hopefully it won't be too long before we get some proper 'Armies of The Old World: Warriors of Chaos' book compiling them all together. Maybe once second edition rolls around.

angryboy2k wrote:Does anyone have the GBP or CAD prices for this box? I've seen the EUR price but that's it...

€140 = £116, CAD$220, USD$175 (in GW exchange rates based on the Xiphon Pattern Interceptor)

Astmeister wrote:Are the prices for the Made to Order 4th edition empire already known?

MTO prices aren't known until they go up on the GW website for order they don't release them on the weekly price lists as they are direct only and aren't a general order item.

Battalions are €150 or £115 for TOW.

Imagine €10 less for a "Reinforcement Set" means it's going to be somewhere £110 or lower

Vorian wrote:
Battalions are €150 or £115 for TOW.

Imagine €10 less for a "Reinforcement Set" means it's going to be somewhere £110 or lower

Ah yeah those kits are oddly priced

Necromunda: Hive Secundus is €140, £108, USD $180, CAD$215

Holy scale creep Batman!
If they had the stat line to reflect it, that'd be fine. But these are just humongous now, with no appreciable gain in usefulness.

Sorely tempted by these marauders, but I'll probably wait for the inevitable redo of the chaos warriors kit

I'd like to see some comparison pics with Darkoath to see how well the ranges work together.

The new Marauders are more Viking and the Darkoath more Conan. Though honestly I fully expect to blend them up too. Even if it just means having one unit of Vikings in the army.

It's little different to how AoS had all those Warcy Warbands with different styles running around. Chaos can easily support the notion of different clans/groups coming together and having very different styles whilst fighting under the same banner (for a time)

One would expect the kurgan to look more like the darkoath, while these guys look like norscans.

Chaos has plenty of tribes to pull unique designs from.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Holy scale creep Batman!
If they had the stat line to reflect it, that'd be fine. But these are just humongous now, with no appreciable gain in usefulness.

The infantry looks quite decent next to a Warrior! I'm tempted to pick a box later on just to add some Marauder to my list (currently have none). Warhammer horses continue to be ridiculously big though.

I'm pretty happy with that size. I found the Dark oath disappointingly dainty (particularly the leader on the horse).

These guys look taller, which is great news.

Is that top pic a comparison of a Marauder horseman old model to new one? Or darkoath to new marauder kit?

The new Marauders look fine size wise next to a plastic Chaos Warrior.

Honestly glad the Marauder Horsemen got a slightly larger horse. The old ones looked absolutely tiny, even in comparison to similarly aged plastics.

Primaris/Stormcast Chaos Warriors on 40mm squares sometime in the future!

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Primaris/Stormcast Chaos Warriors on 40mm squares sometime in the future!

Has anything new for TOW been particularly big compared to the size of the kits released near the end times?

So GW sent me the Chaos Marauders Army Reinforcement set and here are the new Marauders on their 30 mm bases next to other Old World and AoS Chaos models from our collection. I also wrote an in-depth review with HQ sprue images and a build guide over on my blog: https://taleofpainters.com/2025/11/review-chaos-marauders-army-reinforcement-set/

What do you think? I feel the new Marauders line up very well with Chaos Warriors and other recent models like Jade Warriors.

Size looks good. Warriors still have some height over the new marauders and look more bulky.
And ditching ponies and giving the horsemen… horses is a good change.

I just spend 352 euro on made to order empire and regret nothing

 Astmeister wrote:
I just spend 352 euro on made to order empire and regret nothing

I only have some regrets on the empire as the LotRs MTO was today also. The price increase on the middle earth one was insane, but I'm getting very close to "completing" my collection, so seemed silly to miss out at this point.

 Astmeister wrote:
I just spend 352 euro on made to order empire and regret nothing

Perhaps GW should start selling Hobby Insurances for these kind of things.

Well, it seems my chaos warriors army will get bases and there will be more marauders.

Also they will get competition by tilean pike and shot.

Definitely interested in that map that they just showed on pre-order even though they dropped the update early.

Dang the marauder box is already sold out online in the US. Well fingers crossed a local store has 2 of them for me. I also don’t see the empire stuff available for preorder unless I’m blind.

*Nvm I’m blind they are here: https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/the-old-world-armies-of-the-old-world-empire-of-man-sqlp?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WH_22nd_November_Ferren_Areios_&utm_content=&utm_term=

Oh great, I didn't realize the LOTR Made to Order was happening too. If I don't get Bill the Pony now I probably wont see that model again.

Gah this weekend has been expensive!

Dang. I got one each of the Empire Made to order, and doubled down on the Halberdiers for good measure. Pricy weekend!

Yeah, ouch, those were more expensive than I'd hoped. I decided to just get the halberdiers and their command section and skipped the handgunners and archers.

In case someone here is interested in Warhammer, the base version of Vermintide 2 is free on steam this weekend just in case there is a fan of the Old World hanging out in this thread.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/552500/Warhammer_Vermintide_2/

 Skywave wrote:
Dang. I got one each of the Empire Made to order, and doubled down on the Halberdiers for good measure. Pricy weekend!

Very pricey! Just as a FYI sort of thing- This is pretty much what I ordered too, but for the archers I have a few plastics from the old battlemasters range. I think one unit of archers from the MTO + one command set, plus about 3 plastics should bring the unit up to a nice round 16 models. You can usually pick up the battlemasters pretty cheap from ebay if you keep your eye out and they should mix in with the unit without too much notice.

Keeps the MTO unit a more reasonable price without having to double up on extra models there.

Its even worth keeping an eye out for a full box of battlemasters on the cheap as the models help fill out units for all sorts of old world bits.