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Actually, the potatoes are just genetically modified strawberries. So he's both right and wrong.

dietrich wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Criminals would come? Son look at th4e prison populations in California, Texas, and the other border states.

I do know that. My point was that the US can't have an open border policy, and that it would create more problems not less problems. Partially because a lot of people coming across would be criminals, just like the Cubans that got asylum in the (iirc) 1970's. Right now, the criminals at least have to work (a little) to get into the US.

The US is the wonderful land of opportunity, but if everyone moves here, it won't be. While it's nice and ideal to think that we should shelter everyone, it's just not possible or practical. If we try to, the whole system fails. Yet, the US (as a whole) doesn't take the illegal immigration situation seriously.

Good points.

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Here is an interesting article on immigration and dual nationality. Although it concerns Japan specifically, a lot of the topics covered are relevant to other countries.

http://www.japanfocus.org/-Alex-Martin/3143

I agree with dual nationality up to one generation. Canada went through a nationality crisis during the last Lebanese Israeli war two summers ago. We had to evacuate somethign like 50 000 "Canadians" who were the grandchildren or great grandchildren of Immigrants to Canada who went back after they got their citizsenship. All of a sudden we have 50 000 people who have never lived im Canada, occasionaly not even their parents had lived in Canada, and they expected the Government to not only rescue them but to do it free of charge? Three months after the war ended most of them had already gone back to Lebanon. That is what I would call an exploitation of nationality. So they changed the law. Nationality now only passes for one generation if you live outside Canada. Which is fitting.

Edited for Number of Lebanese.

Source. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060919/evacuation_tab_060919?s_name=

I wouldn't worry about second generation 3- or 4-way citizenship situations. It must be very rare, too much hassle for the parents to arrange and it seems unlikely the children could feel a strong attachment to so many countries and want to bother.

Eh, it happens when they get caught in the middle of a warzone and want a free ticket out. All of a sudden its "I LOVE CANADA!!!!! WHO IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT? GET MY ASS OUT OF HERE!" And we don't even have a president.....


PS sorry for the all caps but oh well.

I find it hard to believe that Canada received 200,000 people from the Lebanon who had 3- or 4-way nationality. The total population is only about 4 million.

Having gone to the sight that the article came from I can honestly say I want to know what the banner ad is selling by saying "I don't need self defense lessons".

All it shows is people with knives and hoodies on rotation. Whats it trying to sell me?


Also "the communization of america"
"sweet misery: a poisoned world"
"whatever happened to america?"
"The coming battle"
"Americas CENSORED history"
"Brotherhood of darkness" <--- this one seemed oddly out of place


Also with the articles:

"The land of empty"
"No Speak English
Taking jobs from Americans"
"How to Turn a Free People into Slaves
We are raising our children according to the principles of tyranny
Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D. "
"OPINION
The Sad Road to Socialism
No country trapped in socialism survives
John Loeffler "


Really the sights a farm of extremist idiocy, and amusing banner ads targeted to right wing extremists.

ShumaGorath wrote:

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"OPINION
The Sad Road to Socialism
No country trapped in socialism survives
John Loeffler "


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That bit's true. You only have to look at the Scandinavian countries. Sweden, Denmark and Norway are all shabby, poor and unhappy, with a downtrodden zombie-like population roaming the streets.

Iceland, which embraces the full energy of capitalism in its banking system, is a roaring engine of prosperity with a solid currency and the full support of the people behind the government.

Well, short of fish; it's not like Iceland had a whole heap of choices.