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Ok, I made the original quote about good players not letting the Deceiver into combat with the Plaguebearers.


Then, you quote me, and direct it at Brian specifically, because of his earlier example of getting his Deceiver whacked by Plaguebearers.



Then I respond to let Brian know that I was commenting in general, and not directing it at him.


Then, you respond and say that you/me were directing it at him. I assume you meant you. Adding that you have known them for a while, which is cool.


Then, I respond that you may have directed your comment at him, but I wasn't directing mine at him. Then, I let you know that I too have known them for a good bit as well. Then I threw in a joke about Brian being on top tables in tournaments, thus "hiding" from me there out of my reach.

I'm not sure where you got lost.....There is no venom or anything if that's what you're asking. Just making comments and jokes. Does that help?



Clay

Afrikan Blonde wrote:So is anyone willing to make a bet Necrons will win it all with only two troop choices?

The Ard Boyz tournament has had 2 winners, Daemons and Necrons. So Necrons already have won the Ard Boyz.

Ok back on track, the post before your last one just threw me off a bit.

Yeah we had a conversation at Maul @the Mall about playtesting against nurgle demons and Big D getting pwnt by a fairly large unit of them. They had brought another warfan guy, cant remember his name, that I played in the first round. He was running a nurgle list with 3 princes while I run the nurgling/SG varient.

I have not played against necrons in forever, I know watching Neil play against 2 monolith/ Big D crons in the last round of the Chicago GT with horde orcs was just brutal. The kid playing necrons was the one that is always hanging around with Brad and Elias, so by no means was he a push over. He got phased out due to the fact that a few 30 man mobs got into his lines and just destroyed him This happend about 6 inches from his back table corner, there was absolutly no way for it to be avoided.

After playing Walt the one time Daemons vs Necrons, one of my first moves was to add more Plaguebearers, for just such an occasion. Of course, we haven't played since then, but I'm sure we will.

I switched back to Orks for the Ard Boyz after that beatdown for 2 reasons.


1. Ive been playing Orks for going on 15 years, and since the statline hasn't changed that much, I know them pretty well at this point, so they were in my comfort zone.


and,


2. After watching the GUO scatter back onto Fateweaver and get lost in the warp, I just didn't want to have all this random crap happening to my army in a big tournament setting. I could just imagine playing near the top, shooting for a top 3 finish, and then rolling a 1 or 2, for the half of army that comes in. So, I took the random elements out mostly.

Anyway, I hope to start making it up to Tennessee for future tournaments now that I am back attending tournaments in general, so we might get paired up at some point.


Clay vs Clay, now what could go wrong there?




Clay

Bad scatters only happen to nice daemons.

DarthDiggler wrote:

Afrikan Blonde wrote:So is anyone willing to make a bet Necrons will win it all with only two troop choices?

The Ard Boyz tournament has had 2 winners, Daemons and Necrons. So Necrons already have won the Ard Boyz.

Yea but that was in 4th ed, alot has changed since then and necrons have been hit with the 5th ed nerf bat pretty hard.

I'm intrigued by your list, it certainly sounds easy to beat, but is deceiving indeed . Would you say that it might work out in a downgraded 2000pts version? You'd have to take only 2 Destroyer units, and they would be far less in numbers, as well as only fielding 2 Mono's, but the strategy would be fairly the same.

Oh and congrats on those great games!

Primarch wrote:
Clay vs Clay, now what could go wrong there?

I think Clay would win.....

Afrikan Blonde wrote:So who here seriously thinks Necrons are a contender this year?

Any given Sunday - anything can happen.....

Cron's get MUCH stronger at the 2500 point level. 40KE plays them well and has a good list.....

Anything can happen....they have the same odds as any other army IMHO at the 'ardboyz level.

Sure any army can win but some are stronger than others... some much stronger and personally I don't see Necrons finishing in the top 3 this year.

Good job on the win

Seems to me that 40kE is playing the best Necron army build possible. This doesn't mean it's not a weak codex, as I suspect any deviation from Deciever/Monoliths/Destroyers is going to cut the strength of the list a lot.

I do think you are vulnerable to Phase Out, but exploiting that vulnerability is going to be hard. The targeting choice for the opponent is going to be 100% based on what he's got. It could be good advice for flying mechvets as melta + demo charge could put an entire unit on the ground.

Thank god for living metal though, without it making Monoliths nigh immune to melta weapons you would be in real trouble.