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Ah crud. Seems the basis of my idea has already been hashed in part here. Good thing thought that I did not think of anything truly original, seems like i was not the only one to realize that the Imperium was a source of Chaos

Hey, if you have the individuality to come up with an idea for yourself, then your deffinitly on the right track. Whether or not other people have come up with it, out of your knowledge, is only slightly relevant.


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Just a note here, The Black Templars symbol is very close to the Crusaders symbol, which puts me thinking that i dont see how the Space Marines are any better than Chaos at all...

The Chaos Gods represent our bad urges and seek to consume or destroy us, sooo...

I vote bad. Very, very bad. Which is why we should purge them with fire. ^ ^

well, mainly all 40k background is based on the fact that everyone is bad and evil. The Imperium itself and the Craftworlds are evil.... as Chaos.

All of them makes something awful to some others, being sacrifices, demonic mutations, massive killing. There's no difference... BUT there is something that denotes a good thing from a bad one.

In all their random hatred, xenofoby and such, the Imperium has not at least deamons who would devour life and transform planets in wastelands such Chaos has. Chaos changes bodies throught spells and horrible demonic mutations.... are they different from other things such as the Imperial Servitors, Techmarines and such ? Yes.

Chaos taints the souls of the ones that follow it, you are damned, you have a God that will use and kill you with no second thoughts and will also decieve. It will transform your body in something non human.

I play SM and starting CSM but sincerely I know that both of the factions are BAD.... CSMs are more bad due to the daemons thing.

Truthfully everyrace in the galaxy is evil. Look at it the imperium is more akin to facism as well as the tau. The eldar are so high on themselves they feel no race compares to their knowledge. The orks just like to kill(WHICH IS AWSOME), chaos is well chaos and just delves into their pleasures...I can go on and on and on but really their is NO GOOD in the universe of warhammer just war.

I picture conversations like this as being exactly how chaos cultists recruit Imperial citizens.

They're only as bad as every other race or empire.

From looking at the whole situation. The emperor is good, The Imperium.... very very bad. Nurgle is good, in a very strange way (He seems to be the only entity that has compassion and happiness). To serve Nurgle you just have to get over the whole rotting and disease thing. He champions those who are in despair and brings hope to them in the form of defiance. The other Chaos Gods are, at least as I see it, very evil. But the Chaos Gods cannot help what they are, they are the mind stuff of mortals. So the Chaos Gods are only as evil as the mortals that feed them.

The chaos gods may cause evil: death, pain.. But the chaos gods themselves are more like forces of (un)nature than anything with control of itself. The do have minds but they don't think they way that we would. I imagine (as there is a lot of contradicting information on this) that they don't have free will and are more likely to have control over themselves apart from that they don't learn so any ideas that they don't start with like peace just don't make sense to them. This keeps them doing the same thing for 1000000... of years owever uneffective they are.

I'm sure that if slaanesh could learn it would protect the humans in exchange for them doing pleasurable experiences. I say this because we know that the aim of all the chaos gods is to gain enough power to dominate the other 3 and that they do this by mortals feeling their emotions

The Chaos Gods in and of themselves are neutral, they don't really care about anything. But from the perspective of the mortal races who live on the whims of these gods, they are evil masters, toying with their fates and demanding sacrifice so they can become all the more powerful.

As far as the chaos "taint" in peoples souls goes, How it any difference from a middle aged, working class, money earning racist? Is it at all different from the Xenophobia of the Imperium and Eldar?

Playing with the lives of mortals for your own enjoyment equals evil my friend.

Theres a reason CSM are called slaves to darkness.

The emporer betrayed a traitor marines Primarch and now he yells "Rejoice in the coming oblivion!" Because any step on the eightfold path is a step torwards oblivion.

But at least you won't be bored.