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No need for apologies, zeronyne. I can assure you that this is no kind of heated argument as far as dakka goes. Head over to the off topic threads for a real headache.

Let me clarify one thing, Luna. I don't find the sculpt offensive. I don't even think it's inappropriate to the P&M threads. Finally, I do think it took skill and talent to create. I just think that it's kind of dumb, transparently gross, and certainly inappropriate to the hobby as played in a FLGS.

I also think that it's dumb--actually, let's say "ridiculous equivocation"--to claim that 40k being about war and violence is the same thing as creating models that stimulate (pun!) onlookers into debates about what makes something pronography. Affixing a dildo to a Leman Russ chasis and calling it my Slaaneshi-themed LatD armor is not justified by this being a game about war.

Manchu wrote: I also think that it's "ridiculous equivocation" to claim that 40k being about war and violence is the same thing as creating models that stimulate (pun!) onlookers into debates about what makes something pornography. Affixing a dildo to a Leman Russ chasis and calling it my Slaaneshi-themed LatD armor is not justified by this being a game about war.

Manchu wrote: Affixing a dildo to a Leman Russ chasis and calling it my Slaaneshi-themed LatD armor is not justified by this being a game about war.

sounds brilliant someone do it!

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:

Manchu wrote: Affixing a dildo to a Leman Russ chasis and calling it my Slaaneshi-themed LatD armor is not justified by this being a game about war.

sounds brilliant someone do it!

If the lack of lobster claw + extra male appendage screams foul to what i think is a sculpt with great potential , then oh well . Thats what conversion is for.

I'm not sure how people plan to convert some dudes sculpture that isn't being mass produced in any fashion and doesn't appear to be replicable outside of simply molding another one. Thats the issue. It's not a model. It's a furry porn sculpture you found on 4chan which another user found on fur affinity which its creator posted there because it was too graphic for him to be professionally connected too. What part of that train of events made it ok to post something like this on a website designed and (supposedly enforced) as one navigable by all ages?

This whole debate is just spinning its wheels. It has nothing to do with 40k, it's not an available model, and if you wanted inspiration there are many pictures with quite a bit of effort in them depicting this already. There are plenty of drawings of monsters eating little girls on fur affinity too, should you post them here? It seems pretty tyranid themed. Theres quite a bit of fecal play too, that sounds a lot like nurgle!

Don't hide behind the veil of "Art!", it's transparent.

ShumaGorath wrote:I'm not sure how people plan to convert some dudes sculpture that isn't being mass produced in any fashion and doesn't appear to be replicable outside of simply molding another one. Thats the issue. It's not a model. It's a furry porn sculpture . . .

Frist of all, .

Secondly, good point. This is not at all a conversation about painting or modelling any more and, in hindsight, I'm not totally sure it ever was. It's more about aesthetics and taste now.

Would a mod kindly remove it to OT? (Looks like it's been Frazz's baby already anyway.)

i don't see why moving this to somewhere else is neccesary. the off topic section is for oftopic discussing a particular model happens on P&M all the time...

As has been said above, I think a large part of the reaction is simply due to the model having a todger.

Regardless of the fact that it wasn't sculpted for gaming, I think it reflects Slaanesh very well - equipped for the giving and receiving of pleasure in every way

I don't believe Slaaneshi daemons should be conventionally beautiful - finding them beautiful is just one more indication of how far gone Slaanesh worshippers are in their search for pleasurable experiences...

Slink wrote:I don't believe Slaaneshi daemons should be conventionally beautiful - finding them beautiful is just one more indication of how far gone Slaanesh worshippers are in their search for pleasurable experiences...

That's quite a good point.

As to moving the thread, it isn't necessary. I believe it's preferable given that this discussion had been teetering on the edge of the old "what is pornography" or "what is freedom of speech" topics rather than having anything to do with hobby topics. But it probably won't be moved (mods have never once listened to anything I've said) so no worries.

Well, unless their's an issue I think closing it is good at this point. We've had good comments but I am leery of it going bad overnight. If anyone has an objection please PM me and I will circle in the morning.

Cookies to what ancient Middle Eastern statue this keeps reminding me of. Must have been a toy I had as a boy, back in good old Kadesh. Everything was great until those Assyrians came along. Stupid Assyrians...

Seems done to me.

wuestenfux wrote:I'd mount it on a DE Raider.

Awesome. Just had to make before the lock. I like the model, but would never field it.

I am jsut sorry i mised out on the swf file, I am a Furvert after all

*chuckles, amused*

for more fun.. do a image search for "jaguar mother alien" somewhere whereit's allowed, and yes, I do own one..

I also have a FA account..

It looks kinda good but I cant tell much so.....

awesome stuff

DC