Eldar Nightspinner Confirmation/Spearhead thread

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**Scottywan82**

Alpharius wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:

And no idea if the Russ is a proper new Russ (ala the new Demolisher kit) or a half-assed repackage w/price increase (ala the 'new' Basilisk).

They wouldn't dare pull that Basilisk stunt again, would they???

Seriously, sometimes i wonder what game you play.

**bhsman**

Scottywan82 wrote:Seriously, sometimes i wonder what game you play.

Yea man, if only GW would sell stuff like River Trolls or Gargoyles or Killa Kans or Boar Boyz or something instead of just that one time where they raised the price of stuff, but you're right, there is no hope in this valley of death~

**Nurglitch**

bhsman:

Hey now, being a gigantic faceless corporate titan of evil is hard work. Sometimes you have to take time off from stealing candy from babies and push old ladies into traffic. I'm sure they lowered the slave-wages paid to their 3rd-world labour force in order to increase the lead content of the Killa Kans.

**Scottywan82**

bhsman wrote:Yea man, if only GW would sell stuff like River Trolls or Gargoyles or Killa Kans or Boar Boyz or something instead of just that one time where they raised the price of stuff, but you're right, there is no hope in this valley of death~

Are you telling me, you really don't believe they would bring out a recut LRBT without any of the other variants? you really don't believe that they'd waste a release slot on something that useless?

**Alpharius**

Scottywan82 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:

And no idea if the Russ is a proper new Russ (ala the new Demolisher kit) or a half-assed repackage w/price increase (ala the 'new' Basilisk).

They wouldn't dare pull that Basilisk stunt again, would they???

Seriously, sometimes i wonder what game you play.

Um yeah, I was kidding...

Still, hopefully the backlash was large enough, and the sales were low enough, on the Basilisk kit to prevent this from happening.

Of course, lead times being what they are, it is already too late, if this indeed the case...

**bhsman**

Scottywan82 wrote:Are you telling me, you really don't believe they would bring out a recut LRBT without any of the other variants? you really don't believe that they'd waste a release slot on something that useless?

It's certainly possible, but more often than not posts like yours perpetuate the idea that GW is some comic book villain and that not capitalizing letters is acceptable.

**BrookM**

It's a bit too late to take in criticism, seeing as kits aren't done in a week.

**Scottywan82**

bhsman wrote:It's certainly possible, but more often than not posts like yours perpetuate the idea that GW is some comic book villain and that not capitalizing letters is acceptable.

While yours perpetuate the idea that GW is the world's most perfect company, and make me glad for the Ignore button.

**Kirasu**

Ive already made my own custom apoc rules for the nightspinner in anticipation of GW continuing to make it totally useless

**bhsman**

Scottywan82 wrote:While yours perpetuate the idea that GW is the world's most perfect company, and make me glad for the Ignore button.

If a bad joke was all it took then you must be a very patient person indeed yes

No, they aren't a perfect company, but such cynicism is unfounded.

Kirasu, what do your house rules for the Nightspinner look like?

**Kirasu**

bhsman wrote:
Scottywan82 wrote:While yours perpetuate the idea that GW is the world's most perfect company, and make me glad for the Ignore button.

If a bad joke was all it took then you must be a very patient person indeed yes No, they aren't a perfect company, but such cynicism is unfounded.

Kirasu, what do your house rules for the Nightspinner look like?

**H.B.M.C.**

bhsman wrote:... such cynicism is unfounded.

No it's not.

**xowainx**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
bhsman wrote:... such cynicism is unfounded.

No it's not.

Not really, it's not like they said it was a new kit or anything, even in White Dwarf they said it was just being reboxed so that it didn't have the old Chimera chassis sprue in it, as it would have been the only kit left that did, and thus would have looked out of place. Sure the price rise was crappy, but it would have happened sooner or later to bring it in line with the Hellhound/Demolisher kits (in effect charging for the accessories sprue). If they hadn't have swapped it out people would have just moaned that they were ripping off people by "tricking them" into buying the older hull.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Scottywan82 wrote:While yours perpetuate the idea that GW is the world's most perfect company, and make me glad for the Ignore button.

yeah man thats exactly what he said

**reds8n**

Hey look ! Something kind of related to the topic and/or 40K ! ON Dakka !

anyway, some news about this :

Hello

I could chat some time with Mr Cruddace last Sunday in the Games day about the spearhead expansion

Well, about miniature releases, nothing. "Wait. Read the WD magazine and look at the website."

About the rules of this expansion he was a bit more talkative.

Basically, the point of this expansion is to play only with tanks and vehicles. Deployment is made contrary to the usual games (on deep (¿?))
Some tanks will be able to take targets but not the other.
I’ve seen him to be enthusiastic about the game system. So i asked him: What about armies without tanks, like tyranids? He was warned: “Tanks are replaced by monstrous creatures”

So the vehicles are chosen like normal units, in squadrons if one unit is like that.

Well, that’s all i remember after 2 days and the Waaagh roaring every two minutes in the area.

I think the deployment thingy is about setting up on the short board edges instead of the long ones. Also, I'm fairly certain that what they actually mean is all tanks can be fielded in squadrons even if that isn't a usual codex option.

Thanks to Messrs. Hoarmurel and Quaarin for the scoops and translation work.

**Redemption**

H.B.M.C. wrote:And no idea if the Russ is a proper new Russ (ala the new Demolisher kit) or a half-assed repackage w/price increase (ala the 'new' Basilisk).

Well, one important difference between the Basilisk and the LRBT is that the current LRBT turret doesn't fit on the new chassis because of the new locking turret rings. So either they'd have to make a new sprue with a top hull that has the old turret ring just to be able to fit an old sprue, or they have to make a new sprue that has a new turret. Which do you think is more likely?

Besides, some people in the know already mentioned the new kit will have all missing variants.

**H.B.M.C.**

Personally I think it will be a new kit - but will it have all four remaining Russ types on it?

**Gargskull**

Hope for four, expect three!

**Redemption**

Like I mentioned, various people in the know, which have been correct in the past, already mentioned that it'll have all 4 missing variants.

**bhsman**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
bhsman wrote:... such cynicism is unfounded.

No it's not.

Yea man it's not like I mentioned Boar Boyz or Gargoyles or just about every plastic kit that made the transition from metal to plastic or even from resin where people ended up saving money lol

**Just Dave**

bhsman wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
bhsman wrote:... such cynicism is unfounded.

No it's not.

Yea man it's not like I mentioned Boar Boyz or Gargoyles or just about every plastic kit that made the transition from metal to plastic or even from resin where people ended up saving money lol

Ooomph. Well played!

On Topic, I'm apprehensive about the idea of spearhead - I don't really feel more emphasis on vehicles is needed, particularly when they could be using their time to update ye olde codices or keeping up the interest in apocolypse or planetstrike.

I do however like the idea of these regular releases of plastics, particularly more 'interesting' ones such as new (kind of) vehicles. I hope that they may publish some extra rules within White Dwarf that can be used with the Weapon Platforms or that people who play for fun may use them...

**bhsman**

Just Dave wrote:Ooomph. Well played!

Thanks. Now I just hope nobody decides to add it to their signature.

On Topic, I'm apprehensive about the idea of spearhead - I don't really feel more emphasis on vehicles is needed, particularly when they could be using their time to update ye olde codices or keeping up the interest in apocolypse or planetstrike.

I do however like the idea of these regular releases of plastics, particularly more 'interesting' ones such as new (kind of) vehicles. I hope that they may publish some extra rules within White Dwarf that can be used with the Weapon Platforms or that people who play for fun may use them...

I wouldn't be so worried; stuff like this selling encourages GW to come up with more interesting rulesets for the players who don't have time to work out complicated rules for campaigns. Not to mention that if the June 2010 White Dwarf outsells all others from previous years, maybe GW will also be convinced to start printing extra rulesets in the magazine again. Either way, we win.