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I assume FW will simply discontinue their production of any models as they did when the Skyray and Piranha. With all the new stuff they're pumping out it's not like they'll really be losing a ton of money.

I really hope the plastic Nightspinner looks better than the FW one. I've always thought that model looked ridiculous, not very grimdark.

Of course GW is moving labor-intensive FW resin to lights-out mass-production plastic. The only point of FW continuing to exist at all is to have the early adopters pay for the basic model design via sales of limited edition resin variants.

Oh yeah, War Walkers as Fast, and Falcons as Transport would be obvious corrections to the Eldar army list.

Death Korps of Krieg Manticore lol... I saw a similar model yesterday on in my local hobby shop for the WW2 truck.

landingshortly of Warseer wrote:got this confirmed:

- eldar fire prism / night spinner plastic: 39,90 EUR
- eldar anti grav platform: 22,50 EUR

i was also told that an ork buggy is on its way.

cheers.

Think those prices might be rounded up/down a few cents but seems about right to me.

@ reds8n - do you know any details of the anti-grav platform?

Just one platfom with 2x crew and the gun options seems expensive, whilst a battery of 3 would be incredibly cheap - unless the whole thing has been redesigned to be bigger overall (perhaps with an eye on making eldar arty more powerful in the next 'dex?)

..not yet I'm afraid.

I'd heard something about these a while back, but am quite surprised they're being rolled out now as it seems.

I'd assumed it was going to appear at the next Eldar update..who knows...maybe even alongside those reworked jetbikes.

Last I'd heard -- not seen I stress -- they were getting something that looked like a Falcon turret kind of look, on 'seer Daemon Prince Adramalech says

Oh they are very lovely.....think vyper gunners cradles and you wont go far wrong

I reckon this will indeed be a single platform, presumably with multiple/all weapon options.

I did hear something ages ago about some multipack of 3 type boxset...*shrugs* maybe that was scrapped, or might be a future splash release, or maybe even an Xmas deal if the battleforces/battalions are indeed getting squatted.

Sorry I cannot be more help here, as/when I get something I'll holler.

*sound of brakes squealing*

Battleforces/Battalions getting squatted?
When did I miss this!!!!!!!!

*Ears prick up* Did someone mention buggies... *hopeful look*

It was a rumour doing the rounds a short while back, that the Beastman battalion would be the last one they do,aside from a few limited edition/splash release at Xmas, army launches and the like.

haven't heard anything conclusive one way or another yet.

... no sign or even a whisper of a Blood Angel battleforce set yet. Which is..disconcerting in this regard.

Course could just be a blip caused by UNKNOWN FACTOR X or somesuch.

Battleforces/battalions getting squatted would be awful. I love most of the box sets, and have gotten multiples of some of them.

Still, I hope to see the Nightspinner and new Eldar units soon! The waiting is just killing me!

So, do the rules for the Nightspinner in WD mean that they're relegated to Apocalypse games and 'opponent consent' or does it make it an 'official' unit for the Eldar Dex?

GWs ever malleable design and rules process had changed to keep things in one book for ease of use, etc. Are they changing that direction (again)?

Not sure yet, but GW has any sense (ho ho), I think they will make them official. People won't buy otherwise.

EDIT - Scratch that, the kit incluces a plastic fire prism as well doesn't it? People will buy regardless

I like the idea of battleforces and batallions but for me personally I've never gotten one. So you get like 4 units for the price of 3 or around that. It's nice but for me I've never seen one that I wanted to buy because there's always 1-2 things in the box that I just don't want. About the only one that seems useful to me at all would be the imperial guard batallions, but I'd rather they changed the name to a platoon box set since that's really what you're getting...

Flashman wrote:Not sure yet, but GW has any sense (ho ho), I think they will make them official. People won't buy otherwise.

EDIT - Scratch that, the kit incluces a plastic fire prism as well doesn't it? People will buy regardless

QFT Love me some plastic sets. I wonder if the Eldar support weapons do well, will they rework the Ork ones into plastic? Or maybe the Thunderfire Cannon the next go round for Space Marines?

Plastic Techmarines with all options... mmmm... at last.

I've almost never seen and Eldar Support platform actually used in games even by the most devoted Eldar players, which is a shame because I think they can be both powerful and entertaining given the rules for them. And given recent precedent, the current cost of $33 US for the metal version of the model kit is unlikely to change much at all for the plastic version.
Battleforces and similar bundle deals are great. I have purchased many such box sets over the years.

reds8n wrote: It was a rumour doing the rounds a short while back, that the Beastman battalion would be the last one they do,aside from a few limited edition/splash release at Xmas, army launches and the like.

haven't heard anything conclusive one way or another yet.

... no sign or even a whisper of a Blood Angel battleforce set yet. Which is..disconcerting in this regard.

Course could just be a blip caused by UNKNOWN FACTOR X or somesuch.

My local redshirt told me the same thing when beastmen came out.
take that with the condiment of your choice

I can't see the battalion thing being true.

Did Beastmen have a Spearhead box though? Because I haven't seen any of those in awhile.

Spearhead sets went the way of the dodo quite sometime ago.

I have 9 painted support platforms that i have never used. i am looking forward to some update to their Rules and models. I probably wont shell out another 250$ but i will certainly popularize them with melting my opponents faces or .... sending them into the warp.

If only the rumor was they were getting new rules to accompany the new model.

Can't see them doing rules for the Support Platforms which would be a shame, because any nice new rules for the Night Spinner should be reflected in the rules for Shadow Weavers (which are rubbish).

I remember the good old days of Epic (or Space Marine as it was called then) where Shadow Weavers left tangled webs on the battlefield that troops crossed at their peril.

Well, it figures, the closest thing GW offered in the way of good value for money is supposedly being phased out.

It's just as well I guess, the battleforces/battalions were getting really crappy anyway, might as well not have them at all. The new Tyranid box especially, $105 and it doesn't even have a carnifex in it.

New models doesn't mean something need new rules, so it's still a silly assumption. When the Guard Stormtroopers are finally released, I sincerely doubt we'll see new rules for them.

Kanluwen wrote:
New models doesn't mean something need new rules, so it's still a silly assumption. When the Guard Stormtroopers are finally released, I sincerely doubt we'll see new rules for them.

When the current rules are inadequate, and they want to pump sales of the new models, then I would say it's quite possible for the support platforms to have new rules in WD.

Your IG analogy, isn't a fair one either, since they recently got a new codex, and it's been several years since the Eldar have gotten one.

Sidstyler wrote:Well, it figures, the closest thing GW offered in the way of good value for money is supposedly being phased out.

It's just as well I guess, the battleforces/battalions were getting really crappy anyway, might as well not have them at all. The new Tyranid box especially, $105 and it doesn't even have a carnifex in it.

I really really really doubt this will come to pass.
Army boxes? I can understand why they got rid of them. They were a specialty item that ended up being bought just for the limited edition model and early access to the Codex, then the rest broken into lots and sold on eBay for the most part.
Spearheads? Same deal, just no limited edition model.

Battleforces/battalions supposedly make up a large percentage of their beginner sales.


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Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
New models doesn't mean something need new rules, so it's still a silly assumption. When the Guard Stormtroopers are finally released, I sincerely doubt we'll see new rules for them.

When the current rules are inadequate, and they want to pump sales of the new models, then I would say it's quite possible for the support platforms to have new rules in WD.

Your IG analogy, isn't a fair one either, since they recently got a new codex, and it's been several years since the Eldar have gotten one.

Perfectly fair one.

The Stormtrooper rules absolutely blow.

Wtf is a Nightspinner?

Monofilament firing gun on a tank. Kind of sweet really.

Sasori wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:The rules are being released in White Dwarf, alongside of the "Spearhead" expansion rules.

I think he meant for the support platforms, since there is a rumor they're getting new models as well.

Exactly. Support Platforms are short range, high cost, and small effect - change the rules, and they'll be fine.

If the range stays as-is, at least make them Relentless with bigger effect!


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Kanluwen wrote:New models doesn't mean something need new rules, so it's still a silly assumption. When the Guard Stormtroopers are finally released, I sincerely doubt we'll see new rules for them.

Guard has Kasrkin models for their Stormtroopers, so no update was needed.

The new Stormtrooper models are likely to be model-specific to, and released as part of Codex: Inquisition / Grey Knights (not C: Sisters of Battle), with new rules. That would make sense.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Wtf is a Nightspinner?

Something that looks like this:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Monofilament firing gun on a tank. Kind of sweet really.

Think of it as an artillery sized Warp Spider gun...

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:New models doesn't mean something need new rules, so it's still a silly assumption. When the Guard Stormtroopers are finally released, I sincerely doubt we'll see new rules for them.

Guard has Kasrkin models for their Stormtroopers, so no update was needed.

The new Stormtrooper models are likely to be model-specific to, and released as part of Codex: Inquisition / Grey Knights (not C: Sisters of Battle), with new rules. That would make sense.

You beat me to it!

I see this as exactly would will (or at least, should!) happen.

New codex, new spiffy rules (learning the lessons for why they aren't so good now!), and awesome new plastic models = win for everyone.