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chaos0xomega wrote:I'm going to have to re-d/l solidworks then. I would like to provide better renders to you, my loyal fanbase...

...speaking of which, where are all the posts of validation from my adoring fans? I DEMAND VALIDATION!!!! AND ADORATION!!!!

(seriously, since May 2010 I only had 4 pages of posts.... on warseer I had 4 pages of posts in the first month(and half of them weren't mine...), what gives!?)

We're old. Pretty pictures impress, but vaporware is vaporware.

It isn't vaporware, I'm just lacking in encouragement.

Don't know about encouragement, but if you hit a good price point, you can be expecting remuneration...

Seriously, the weapons platforms are very nice. But I'd suggest Valhallan42nd's stance is not an unreasonable one. Get that thing in resin or whatever and you'll get some more positive words I'm sure.

Valete,

JohnS

cygnnus wrote:

Seriously, the weapons platforms are very nice. But I'd suggest Valhallan42nd's stance is not an unreasonable one. Get that thing in resin or whatever and you'll get some more positive words I'm sure.

Well considering that (barring the weapons) its finished, I'll be able to send the design to the printers as soon I get my student loan (about 3 weeks from now). However, that doesn't do me much good, as I need to find a caster.

Have you considered teaming up with Chapterhouse?

Great weapons platform! I could use with a pair of them for my DKoK.

Breotan is right, I would see if Chapterhouse is interested and I am sure they would be given the great looking model that you have designed.

I've considered it, but I'm not sure if I want to. As you probably know they are involved in legal action w/ GW. I am concerned that I will end up being involved in the situation (GW tried to nail Paulson Games for sculpting the superheavy walker (even though they DIDN'T sculpt it)), I don't want to end up in a similar position. Additionally, the heavy weapon platform is partially the product of me wanting money. I'm fairly certain I would make much much more directly selling the product, then by going through Chapterhouse. I would also have more control over the price, how it would be sold, etc. if I did it myself, whereas CHS would set whatever price they think is appropriate (which may be/probably is more than I would like it to be).

You should try using Photoworks, as suggested. Apply a material to the platform and hit the render. It's awesome, though it may be confusing at first.

Nice HWP, by the way

chaos0xomega wrote:I'm going to have to re-d/l solidworks then. I would like to provide better renders to you, my loyal fanbase...

...speaking of which, where are all the posts of validation from my adoring fans? I DEMAND VALIDATION!!!! AND ADORATION!!!!

(seriously, since May 2010 I only had 4 pages of posts.... on warseer I had 4 pages of posts in the first month(and half of them weren't mine...), what gives!?)

Your the best!!! Everything you make builds a desire in myself to spend loads of money.

Enough for you? Seriously, even that Heavy Weapons Platform is great.

chaos0xomega wrote:I've considered it, but I'm not sure if I want to. As you probably know they are involved in legal action w/ GW. I am concerned that I will end up being involved in the situation (GW tried to nail Paulson Games for sculpting the superheavy walker (even though they DIDN'T sculpt it)), I don't want to end up in a similar position. Additionally, the heavy weapon platform is partially the product of me wanting money. I'm fairly certain I would make much much more directly selling the product, then by going through Chapterhouse. I would also have more control over the price, how it would be sold, etc. if I did it myself, whereas CHS would set whatever price they think is appropriate (which may be/probably is more than I would like it to be).

If encouragement is what you need, then by all means: I have money. The things you are designing make me want to part with my money, because they are very cool, and fit with a retro sci-fi feel that fits my Wargames Factory Shock Troops quite well.

Please make the weapons platforms, so that I can give you my money.

LOL. I was just joking about the encouragement/adoration bit, but thanks guys

I think I figured out how I'm going to handle the weapons/no-weapons sales situation.... I just need to 1. Get the money I'm expecting, and 2. Find a moldmaker/caster 3. Finish the weapons

Right, so I have money, prints will be coming soon, I'm still playing with the model a bit before I send it off for a quote, seeing if there is anything I can improve on, and making sure that its suitable for printing/casting, etc.

I'm looking for possible manufacturers for this thing. I've decided, since most of you seem to have expressed interest in the platform sans weaponry, to push ahead without weapons for now (since I'm having a bit of modelers block in regards to them), this way you all have less to wait. The weapons will still be produced, its just going to be a while before we see them.

Obviously, no idea on a price yet, won't have an estimate until I can talk to the printers and the manufacturers.

chaos0xomega wrote:Right, so I have money, prints will be coming soon, I'm still playing with the model a bit before I send it off for a quote, seeing if there is anything I can improve on, and making sure that its suitable for printing/casting, etc.

I'm looking for possible manufacturers for this thing. I've decided, since most of you seem to have expressed interest in the platform sans weaponry, to push ahead without weapons for now (since I'm having a bit of modelers block in regards to them), this way you all have less to wait. The weapons will still be produced, its just going to be a while before we see them.

Obviously, no idea on a price yet, won't have an estimate until I can talk to the printers and the manufacturers.

Outstanding news! Can't wait to hear details on when it's up for sale (and hoping it'll come in a a price point that doesn't hurt too bad!), how it looks "in the flesh", etc... And great idea, from my perspective at least, on opting not to hold the platform up for weaponry. You can always work that later...

Valete,

JohnS

Update: no good news, I've tried emailing a couple of foundries, etc. No dice, haven't heard back from any of them a week later...

Update: slightly better news! I was directed towards another service, and these guys are LEGIT. Hoping to hear back from them soon, probably not until after the weekend, but depending what they say, I may be going towards plastic w/ this (fortunately I considered that when I started designing this thing. Going to have to make a couple minor modifications, but it shouldn't take long).

chaos0xomega wrote:Update: slightly better news! I was directed towards another service, and these guys are LEGIT. Hoping to hear back from them soon, probably not until after the weekend, but depending what they say, I may be going towards plastic w/ this (fortunately I considered that when I started designing this thing. Going to have to make a couple minor modifications, but it shouldn't take long).

Plastic? Cool... I'm sure there are many of us here waiting to see how it turns out!

Valete,

JohnS

If these get into production, I will start a guard army just because of them!

chaos0xomega wrote:Update: slightly better news! I was directed towards another service, and these guys are LEGIT. Hoping to hear back from them soon, probably not until after the weekend, but depending what they say, I may be going towards plastic w/ this (fortunately I considered that when I started designing this thing. Going to have to make a couple minor modifications, but it shouldn't take long).

Any news? (Who, me? Impatient? Pshaw...)

Valete,

JohnS

I love this tank! I would buy it if it was available for sale

Tanks temporarily back-burnered while I try to crank out the weapon platform, etc.

Haven't heard back yet, but I've been using the power of math to figure out materials usage, etc. (for the platform) and well, I feel good about this... lets just say that if I did this myself, it would cost me about 20 cents per casting in materials... This does NOT mean thats what the casters will charge me, I expect the cost to be a good bit more to account for time, plus the cost of molds and other procedures, etc. but it gives me a baseline to work with.

Hurry up so you can take ridiculous amounts of my money.

Going as fast as I can, but I kinda have to rely on other people having the courtesy to respond to communications... still waiting...

In the meantime, I finished modifications to the design. The shield piece and the weapon mount are no longer a single piece, so it should make molding/casting a bit easier. I also lowered the height of the mounting point 2mm, so the weapon won't sit quite so high in relation to the shield.

Tank looks lovely, would consider a gaurd army for it, assuming I'm not completely burnt out after all the projects I currently have going on.

Man if you do this i will make you rich!

I FINALLY GOT A RESPONSE!! W00T W00T!!

Discussions have started, lets hope for the best.

As an aside, once I get stuff with the weapon carriage sorted out and available to you all, I'm going to get the weapons out of the way, and then get back to the tank.

Update: Bad news. The price of molds was pretty much in the ballpark I expected, but the cost per copy was way too high (8 dollars a copy at their bulk discount rate, screw that). I'm going to look elsewhere.

chaos0xomega wrote:Update: Bad news. The price of molds was pretty much in the ballpark I expected, but the cost per copy was way too high (8 dollars a copy at their bulk discount rate, screw that). I'm going to look elsewhere.

$8 per to you? So the "retail" would be, what, double that? Yeah... That's probably be too high... Pity.

Valete,

JohnS

Yeah, 8 per to me. Which is completely unreasonable given that they only need about 10-20 cents of material per copy to make it. Yeah, I get that there are additional costs and that they need to turn a profit, but that is absolutely ridiculously high.

Another update, I'm looking into plastics some more. My school happens to have machine shops capable of cutting molds.... ordinarily I wouldn't have access to this unless I was taking certain specific classes, etc. but a good friend of mine happens to help run the shop and offered to help me out!

Could work provided you could find the resources to produce the stuff at a reasonable price. Glad you found a better way to produce this stuff, the company that you contacted charged you way too much, I would say it would cost way less to produce kits of the size you are planning.