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Talizvar wrote:Ummm... looks really cool but I cannot shake the feeling that with the first picture you unconsciously made a "Millennium Falcon" turret.

First thing that poped into my head as the pic loaded.

I give you the gift of a modified hull (still WIP)!

Very nice, you saw my design/sketch, which I like

I'd add more of the original Russ in there, like the coils on the side, and some of the angles of the treads.

I like your sponson ideas although they do look small when compared to GW's huge weapons. if you could make them bigger you'd be golden.

I think your square hatches need to be circles. The Imperium is wierd like that. If a tank is rounded in anyway its wrong. If the doors/hatches are squared they are wrong.

I think if you get some of the original Russ in your design it will be more quickly viewed as a Russ remake and not a 40k Abrams conversion. (Oh and most people see abrams because of the way the turret and chassis connect+the long chassis and placement of the lights. You people who have lived in the thing obviously have more knowledge on the tank and have a much stronger mental image.

I like the drivers area in the new hull design

here's a bit of an update:





As always, still a WIP. I figured enough people were complaining about exposed turret rings that it deserved to be addressed. Also the update makes the underside of the turret less of a target, and also allowed me to make the turret a bit deeper to allow the crew to move around a bit more. Also, decided that the periscopes for the sponsons were making it to difficult to keep the turret safe, so the new design is going to have to settle for co-axial sights instead.

Why is there a millenium falcon on the tank?

And the turret looks way too big atm

Mecharius wrote:Reminds me of the Abrams with a miniature millenium falcon on top; expect a lawsuit from both George Lucas and the US military

lol

poipo32 wrote:Why is there a millenium falcon on the tank?

And the turret looks way too big atm

This:



is the millenoum falcon. It only bears a passing resemblance to the turret.

Which, btw, is NOT way too big. Its the right size. If you want to talk about a big turret, please see this:



and if you want an example of a too small turret, see these:

Nice design.., reminds me a bit of the Israeli Merkava tank..

Sorry for the lack of updates, my laptop died and it was a while before I could get it repaired. As you can see I've modified the design rather considerably.

Comments and criticisms always welcome!

That's no longer a tank. It's a mobile fortress of solitude.

That or a Land Yacht

Should I take that as a compliment or an insult?

Also, in case anyone is curious, no that is not final. I have to add details and hatches, etc.

Both? I just have this image of Dr. Evil looking out one of those windows with his pinky to the corner of his mouth as the tank goes tearing through a city

It looks good to me. Has the look of modern, low-profile tanks, while the sponson(?) mountings retain the old WW1 "mobile bunker" feel.

carabine wrote:

Talizvar wrote:Ummm... looks really cool but I cannot shake the feeling that with the first picture you unconsciously made a "Millennium Falcon" turret.

First thing that poped into my head as the pic loaded.

Me too! Nice work.

That's a hell of a tank, very nice work. The current turret size looks really good to me. Big enough to fit crew in, but still proportional to the rest of the tank.

I feel you guys on the CAD/CG software discrepancy too. I started out trying to teach myself the artsy ones, then had to take university classes in CAD and am actually employed in that now. The CAD seems a lot more intuitive to me as well but they both lack features that the other has that seem like criminal oversights.

What are the round slits in front and side for? are there going to be gun placements there?

I think the curve really dont fit with the rest of the tank , if anything , it should be curve the same way as the turret's back ( in blocks of straight lines )

Yeah, the round slits are weapon mounts (hull mount up front and sponsons on the sides).

Noted on the straight lines vs. curves. I've been thinking the same thing, I'll give it a go later to see how it looks. I chose the curves because I wanted them to look kind of like bunkers, which are generally curved.

looks very good by me. I also see some Abrams influences in the overall design (ie, how the turret has basically the same width as the hull of the tank, and the overall profile of the tracks themselves)

If you were one for taking the Dozer blade upgrade in your guard tanks, you might consider making a modified mine-plow or a Sherman tank style Hedgerow for it.

Not meaning to rush you at all but... When can we see the big shootaz! (bounces up and down with far to much excitement). Great looking tank mate!

that looks very cool, will you build it?

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:The word is "subconscious"... if he did it while he was unconscious it would be considered a miracle that he could do anything at all...

That made me laugh so hard, I'm sigging that

Sorry there haven't been updates for a while (months...), but I've been pretty busy with real life, and had a bit of 'designers block'. I've mostly just been messing around with various changes to the design, this is where it stands now. As always, it is still a work in progress.

To answer your question from way earlier, you can transfer obj's or fbx files that will hold the geometry and the UV's, but for proper cinematic rendering the problem is the nature of the geometry. With Maya and others like it, you need a solid shell for the most part in order to texture it properly, preferably in quads. Cad builds the files as nurbs usually that line up, but are not 'solid'. So for instance the side panel of the armor may appear to be one piece, but in fact is is 30 jagged shards that need to be stitched back together by hand. It is possible, but so time consuming it is usually easier to just create new geometry in program. I would be the happiest camper in the world if we could use CADs 'out of the box', believe me it would be heaven at work! lol

That being said, the tank is coming along really nicely! Design wise, the only thing that jumps out at me is the side track panels. The shape is very conventional, while the upper parts of the tank are very futuristic, unique and awesome, almost Tron like. I would try to do something to bring them in line with the top, some curves and tech paneling.

Hmm, hopefully those will blend in a bit better when I'm done with them. I'm trying to avoid curved features, as that clashes with the established Imperial aesthetic. And Tron like? Hmm... thats a new one I suppose.

the un-riveted portion in the middle in specific. It will lose it a bit as details are added.

However, lose the rivets and other fine details, shove a black shader on there and a big ass off center gun, you got yourself a baddass neon tank!

Talizvar wrote:Ummm... looks really cool but I cannot shake the feeling that with the first picture you unconsciously made a "Millennium Falcon" turret.

You beat me to it!

I like the look of the turret. At least the deminsions. It seem ridiculous that 40000 years into the future, even if the IG are not supplied with the best weaponry, they would have at least made the turret more sleek with a smaller side profile to avoid taking a direct hit to it!

Talizvar wrote:Ummm... looks really cool but I cannot shake the feeling that with the first picture you unconsciously made a "Millennium Falcon" turret.

Just when I was wondering if this project was dead.
The new side skirts look great.
I still can't shake the feeling the turret looks too big, but somehow a M1 Abrams turret doesn't.