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Im holding out for Thousand Sons! Their post-heresy armour is THE coolest armour in the 40k universe IMO. Its just too badass.
Plus Arihman serves Tzeentch without wanting or indeed even intending too. Which is just deliciously tragic! He is one of the few 'Good' worshipers of Chaos.
Their fluff is definitely my favourite.

Terminus wrote: Word Bearers are kind of tools as well

HEAR ME WORD BEARERS, TODAY WE DESTROY THE SOULLESS FORCES OF THE STAR GODS! WARP BLESSED AMPHION AND ZAETHUS HAVE PREPARED A GREAT DEVICE BLESSED BY LORD TZEENTCH'S MIGHT. WITH IT WE SHALL BRING DOWN THESE CAVERNS AND CRUSH THE NECRONS. I WILL CARRY THIS GREAT ARTIFACT INTO THE BOWELS OF THIS PLACE MYSELF. GUARD MY ADVANCE, AND MY WITHDRAWAL. I SHALL NOT GIVE THESE MACHINES THE SATISFACTION OF MY DEATH.

http://weopenthewayforourbrothers.ytmnd.com/


I don't get the hate for the Word Bearers, they're pretty badass.

Nitros14 wrote:

Terminus wrote: Word Bearers are kind of tools as well

HEAR ME WORD BEARERS, TODAY WE DESTROY THE SOULLESS FORCES OF THE STAR GODS! WARP BLESSED AMPHION AND ZAETHUS HAVE PREPARED A GREAT DEVICE BLESSED BY LORD TZEENTCH'S MIGHT. WITH IT WE SHALL BRING DOWN THESE CAVERNS AND CRUSH THE NECRONS. I WILL CARRY THIS GREAT ARTIFACT INTO THE BOWELS OF THIS PLACE MYSELF. GUARD MY ADVANCE, AND MY WITHDRAWAL. I SHALL NOT GIVE THESE MACHINES THE SATISFACTION OF MY DEATH.

http://weopenthewayforourbrothers.ytmnd.com/


I don't get the hate for the Word Bearers, they're pretty badass.

Their fluff certainly makes them sound pretty badass. Theyre one of the more organised legions.
Also, is that sound clip from Dawn of War? Im sure I heard it in Dark Crusade.

Not Word Bearers. Please. They are the most pathetic Legion in existance, and quite possibly the most evil as well.

Grotzooka wrote:Not Word Bearers. Please. They are the most pathetic Legion in existance, and quite possibly the most evil as well.

Isnt that kind of an oxymoron?
I like em. To each their own I guess!

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:THOSE MOTHER-FETHING CAUTION STRIPES THEY WEAR ALL OVER THEIR ARMOUR!! Oh I hate those with such a passion. You're supposed to be the all-conquering seige specialists of chaos lads, not police crime scene investigators or construction workers. You're supposed to be tearing down the palace's of the false Emperor, not building one into a bypass of the A32..

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Nitros14 wrote:I don't get the hate for the Word Bearers, they're pretty badass.

It's not really hate, but they are total tools. I mean, come on, the Legions took on the personality traits of their Primarchs, and Lorgar was the ultimate tool to end all tools. His entire purpose in life was to find something to worship and to boss him around. He is the very definition of a tool.

Terminus wrote:

Nitros14 wrote:I don't get the hate for the Word Bearers, they're pretty badass.

It's not really hate, but they are total tools. I mean, come on, the Legions took on the personality traits of their Primarchs, and Lorgar was the ultimate tool to end all tools. His entire purpose in life was to find something to worship and to boss him around. He is the very definition of a tool.

So is Rowboat Girlyman. He is just easier to hate (EDIT: Hate is the wrong word. He is just too much of a poster boy, and annoying) IMO.
At least Lorgar had the decency to be a badass and his Legion decided that they would be an all conquering horde of evil yet pious anti-imperials. They are the best anti-imperial of the Chaos legions. They mirror the imperials thesis perfectly, but in the image of chaos.

Wyvern wrote:

Terminus wrote:

Nitros14 wrote:I don't get the hate for the Word Bearers, they're pretty badass.

It's not really hate, but they are total tools. I mean, come on, the Legions took on the personality traits of their Primarchs, and Lorgar was the ultimate tool to end all tools. His entire purpose in life was to find something to worship and to boss him around. He is the very definition of a tool.

So is Rowboat Girlyman. He is just easier to hate (EDIT: Hate is the wrong word. He is just too much of a poster boy, and annoying) IMO.
At least Lorgar had the decency to be a badass and his Legion decided that they would be an all conquering horde of evil yet pious anti-imperials. They are the best anti-imperial of the Chaos legions. They mirror the imperials thesis perfectly, but in the image of chaos.

Rowboat? A tool? I dunno... If by tool you mean he recognized authority and followed it, then you might be right.

And Lorgar was/is not badass. He's a whining piece of filth who couldn't see that slaughtering entire populations in the name of a secular power and then converting them all to a kooky religion was wrong. His dad told him tha and he ran off sobbing into the wilderness and let himself and his Legion become enslaved to pure evil.

And yes, other Legions slaughtered entire populations in the name of a secular power, but then they converted them all to the secular power. If you must kill people, do it right the first time so you never have to do it again.

Right, Lorgar is just a whiny tool. "Waah, daddy doesn't love me, I'm turning to Chaos and starting the Horus Heresy so someone pats me on the head and tells me they approve! Waah!" What a little bitch. 100% of what's wrong with the Imperium "today", as well as every bad thing that led up to it, could be argued to be entirely due to his low self-esteem.

While I'm not fond of the Ultramarines primarch (I mean, he's the complete antithesis of Alpharius/Omegus), his Codex tried to make every other Legion/Chapter as dull and predictable as his own, and in every written account we have of his personality he seems like a pompous jackass with the Imperium's biggest stick up his rectum, he's still not as pathetic as Lorgar.

Grotzooka wrote:And yes, other Legions slaughtered entire populations in the name of a secular power, but then they converted them all to the secular power. If you must kill people, do it right the first time so you never have to do it again.

Little bit of a problem with first slaughtering entire populations and then converting them...

I keed, I keed.

Terminus wrote:Right, Lorgar is just a whiny tool. "Waah, daddy doesn't love me, I'm turning to Chaos and starting the Horus Heresy so someone pats me on the head and tells me they approve! Waah!" What a little bitch. 100% of what's wrong with the Imperium "today", as well as every bad thing that led up to it, could be argued to be entirely due to his low self-esteem.

While I'm not fond of the Ultramarines primarch (I mean, he's the complete antithesis of Alpharius/Omegus), his Codex tried to make every other Legion/Chapter as dull and predictable as his own, and in every written account we have of his personality he seems like a pompous jackass with the Imperium's biggest stick up his rectum, he's still not as pathetic as Lorgar.

I concede the point

Necroman wrote:

Grotzooka wrote:And yes, other Legions slaughtered entire populations in the name of a secular power, but then they converted them all to the secular power. If you must kill people, do it right the first time so you never have to do it again.

Little bit of a problem with first slaughtering entire populations and then converting them...

I keed, I keed.

Feth! I really should lay off the hyperbole.

I am not trolling here but I started reading this thread full of hope and at this point am dissappointed. However I then re read the title and saw it was just you personal view of the Legions and so can be as biased and unjustified in certain cases as you like. Good luck writing the rest of the thread in any case.

5. Run fat boy run.

Okay, okay, I'll talk, it's a fair cop-The reason the Death Guard have scored so highly is because I'm currently in the process of adding some to my Chaos Black crusade. If I was grading the legions six or so months ago, then the XIV legion would most likely have scored in seventh or eighth place. But, I'm not, and they're not, so lets look at their merits in my eyes.
It's been said once or twice that everyone is similar to a primarch: I know people who are as Angelic and noble as Sanguinius, feirce and hard as Russ, or ambitous and charming as Horus. Well, if that's the case, then I'm Mortarion. I don't speak much, and when I do I'm pretty blunt and to the point. I despise ostentatious, or overly ornermental things. I have a habit of hiding in shadows and not revealing my prescence until I feel like it. And things I build aren't colourful, or elegant, but they last-they are functional and they last. And no, I don't get along particularly well with my siblings, but you know what? When they need me,, I will be there for them.
Onto the Death Guard themselves. Though I'm a Tzeentch man at heart, I will always have an imense respect for the Leperous king. Of all the chaos gods, he is the one whose nature leads to the most interesting discussion. He's thought provoking in a way none of the other "Big 4" are. And, unlike his brothers, he lets the Guard be free. Not free from disease, obviously, but they can think for themelves. World Eaters just want to kill everything, Emperor's children have become slave's to their senses, and the Thousand Sons need no explanation. But the sons of Death, as long as they keep spreading the rot in Nurgle's name.
I think everyone has the Death Guard wrong-everyone says that they're just fat kids who sit in the corner passing wind. And that isn't what they are at all, in my opinion. Instead, they're those chubby middle age guys sitting on the sofa in their flat, surrounded by empty pizza boxes, one hand down the front of their pants. They can cook, can clean, can socialise-but they don't by choice. They're living in their own filth, and they're loving every minute of it.

This thread appears to be turning out just as planned.

Tzeentch = blue smoke

This amuses me greatly, however, I would switch the Imperial Fists and the Emperor’s Children place in this list.

Fulgrim is the Anakin Skywalker of 40k, but with more lube. He kills more Primarch’s than even Horus, counting Girllyman as dead...which I do, and even chokes out an Avatar of Khaine with his bare hands. Plus I’ve always loved the concept of sonic weaponry. Though I do hate pink… and Slaanesh, but they’re still the first Chaos army I ever owned. Now it's Iron Warriors all the way.

The coolest thing Rogal Dorn ever did was get his ass kicked by Night Haunter. Yeah, yeah he was there defending the imperial palace and bolstered its defenses helped to build the Golden Throne and yaaaaaaawn. Sanguinius and the Khan actually have sweet stories of the epic BATTLES they fought. Sanguinius fighting the Bloodthirster of all Bloodthirster’s and breaking it over his knee and the Kahn and his legion riding out to counter attack the invading legions, while Dorn sat back and directed supporting fire. Sure he went with the emperor to fight Horus on his ship but so did Sanguinius and a lot of other jerks.
I mean the guy didn’t even have a cool death, all the other primarch’s had an either epic death, disappeared mysteriously, or are now Daemon Princes. Dorn’s ship blew up… neat.
I have nothing against the Iron Fists themselves, save for the unforgivable offence of spawning the worst SM chapter of all time, the Black “we believe in the Emperor better than you do” Templars

Alpha Legion FTW ! Yay!!!

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:It's been said once or twice that everyone is similar to a primarch: I know people who are as Angelic and noble as Sanguinius, feirce and hard as Russ, or ambitous and charming as Horus. Well, if that's the case, then I'm Mortarion. I don't speak much, and when I do I'm pretty blunt and to the point. I despise ostentatious, or overly ornermental things. I have a habit of hiding in shadows and not revealing my prescence until I feel like it. And things I build aren't colourful, or elegant, but they last-they are functional and they last. And no, I don't get along particularly well with my siblings, but you know what? When they need me,, I will be there for them.

Same here.

Keep up the good work, I have been enjoying this list, and eagerly await the top choices.

outstanding work fella!

Come on DA's (soz terminus)

but id love to see GW do something further with the Alpha legion they could get there own dex!!! omg crafty marines ftw

id love to see the chaos mob going the same way as the marines with a bit more in depth character especially now since demons have fethed off,
i mean they managed to knock out 5 different chapter dex's for the SM's and they only follow one god!!!!!

i used to hate chaos before the HH books but omg its good to see they werent just "cut and dry" scumbag traitors.
those books really make me want to do a chaos army lol
thousand sons fething rule btw

i feel now their background has been fleshed out a bit that some of the armies could be expanded on

sorry about the thread jack

shakey787 wrote:thousand sons fething rule btw

Agreed on that point. Basically the novel A Thousand Sons inspired me enough to actually finish my army of them (See my gallery uploads!).

Terminus wrote:Right, Lorgar is just a whiny tool. "Waah, daddy doesn't love me, I'm turning to Chaos and starting the Horus Heresy so someone pats me on the head and tells me they approve! Waah!" What a little bitch. 100% of what's wrong with the Imperium "today", as well as every bad thing that led up to it, could be argued to be entirely due to his low self-esteem.

totally agree.


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Ah What? If you're going on coolness alone you gotta put Death Guard number one. They're my favorite Traitor legion. And I'm just basing that on the pre-nurgle days. They wore unpainted armour and thought the rest of the Legions were riduculus. Mortarion was outright feared by everyone. And they straight up drank pure poison just to show how badass they were.

Let me put it another way. Death guard are really the complete opposite of the Emperor's metrosexual Children. You have rightfully declared them uncoolest legion of all time. Therefore the Death Guard are the Coolest!

4. Gotta catch'em all!

The Dark Angels have been recieving a lot of flak so far in this thread, about how they shouldn't be in the top 5-and as they're my secondary army, I feel it is my duty, nay, my privelige to defend them.
Cast your minds back five or six years, when a young and bright eyed Fauntleroy who was not yet the ignorant and bitter person who you see before you walked into a strange shop called "gams wurksop". Amzingly, this child managed to walk out without buying anything, but he saw two things that would emblazon themselves onto his memory and rest at the back of his mind for years. One was a strange blue reptllian creature that walked as a man, and the other was a mysterious looking green-armoured warrior wrapped in a cloak. When I returned three or so years ago, it was the month of the Dark Angels release-I recognized them immeadiatly. My first issue of White Dwarf was the Dark Angel 4th ed. release. I always told myself that if I ever started a loyalist marine army that wasn't Imperial fists, it would be the Angels of Caliban. We go way back, and do you want to know why I like them so much?
Because they are flawed-not in the silly way of the Wolves or Blood Angels, but flawed in a mental, plausable way. No-one gets wolf eyes and canines as they grow older. No-one sees their ancestors in a fight and goes berserk. But traitors in the family?...that's believable. That could happen to anyone. That could have happened to me. It could have happened to you.And yes, it does make them emos-but they are super emo's. And they are super emo's because they actively DO something about their shame. They don't just sit around and mope, they try and get rid of their problems, though most of the chapter don't even know it. If a few other Imperials get in the way, then tough for them. They're ruthless. They'll stop at nothing for salvation. And I can respect them for it.
Of course, theirs the controversial issue of the rules. The Dark Angles are the original terminator equivilant army-and I would wager, the best. Their backstory is also one of the best, an elite Fallen hunting strikeforce who get in and get out with their mission complete before the enemy can say "oh my would you lookee at that we're in a jolly old spot of bother now, aren't we chaps?". Or something like that. The Ravenwing may not be as effective game wise, but it also has good fluff and an awesome name (Ravenwing? F'yeah, stick that in your pipe and smoke it Korydae!). And finally, there's the Greenwing-the Joe average Dark Angles. I have only seen one Greenwing player in the local area, and it's me. And yes, their rules may suck. Yes, they may be uncompetative. But let me tell you something.
A few weeks ago, I was at Warhammer world for it's relaunch. There was a Tournament on, too. And all the people with their "optomised" army-the lash princes, the TH/SS Terminators, the Nob bikers-they all had one thing in common. They didn't look happy. They were winning, but they didn't look like they were enjoying themselves. And the people with the "weaker" but well converted armies-the Chaos Dwarfs, the all sanguinary guard, the chaos daemon counts-as Zanatorian machine cult-they were all having fun, or at least they looked like it. And, correct me if I'm just being a stupid and ignorant brat again, but isn't having fun the reason we play this fine game? It's the reason I play, anyway.
That is why I still play with the Dark Angels codex for Green wing, and indeed why I play them in the first place. Being the Underdog army is fun, especially when I occasionaly get it together and unleash the beatdown on melta-vet guard. I'm a sword weilding, robe wearing, Fallen hunting member of the First legion, and my chest puffs out with pride whenever I am reminded of that fact.


I do perhaps have one small beef with the Dark Angels, though it is minor; look at the picture at the top of this post. You can't imagine the guy in the center smiling, can you? I can't imagine any son of the Lion smiling. Everything is serious buisness. If I feel pride in them, then they should feel pride in themselves.

Well at least you admit your Biased. I can't fault you for favoring an Army that made you fall in love with the game. Indeed I used to think DAs were the coolest too at times but then one of their codexes revealed how they mindwiped and "dissapeared" their own. I lost respect for them. It made me realize that their secret is not that big a deal. Not worth turning on your own brothers.

I have to say that the Dark angels should be higher. Along with the Black Templar, they are my favorite Space Marine team. Glad to see that the Thousand Sons are still up there.

im a DA player and not 6 hrs ago i beat a new blood angel list with my twin wing and my heart soared a little.
howere i disagree with the emo comment im sorry but the dont hate themselves to get attention and they arent whiny little pussies who are mad at dad.
gutted they aint No1 but again its your list and your opinion and to be fair its made me laugh lots so far, keep up the good work fella

The one thing that could save DAs for me is if the deepest darkest secret that they're trying coverup all they way down there at the bottom of the big pit of secrets is: Lion 'El Johnson is a traitor.

It would explain and justify everything. Some Fallen do indeed claim that (that they are the loyalists) but are tortured until they change their minds. That would be a great swerve but the HH novels seem to be going against this route right now.

If you do #2 it leaves only #1 so will you have to do two updates in one day?

My three favourite legions are Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Word Bearers myself. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.

Alpha Legion s/b in the bottom 5. If there's any SMs ever than can be called cowards its them. Wussies can't even do their own fighting.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Alpha Legion s/b in the bottom 5. If there's any SMs ever than can be called cowards its them. Wussies can't even do their own fighting.

Well yes fighting the whole Imperium directly when they number 10,000 and the Imperium numbers countless billions with some 1,000,000 Space Marines would be wise.

They're just not dumb.