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Everyone needs to read this article.

http://www.badscience.net/2010/05/evidence-based-smear-campaigns/#more-1615

Correcting people's mistaken beliefs about politically significant fact may actually entrench them in their incorrect opinion.

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Kilkrazy wrote:Everyone needs to read this article.

http://www.badscience.net/2010/05/evidence-based-smear-campaigns/#more-1615

Correcting people's mistaken beliefs about politically significant fact may actually entrench them in their incorrect opinion.


.... should this be in YMDC ?

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Kilkrazy wrote:Everyone needs to read this article.

http://www.badscience.net/2010/05/evidence-based-smear-campaigns/#more-1615

Correcting people's mistaken beliefs about politically significant fact may actually entrench them in their incorrect opinion.


Interesting piece, the findings certainly correlate with a lot of people I know. The difference, I think, is that the article gave a single passive correction, and then the respondents were asked their opinion afterwards.

What I'm talking about is a culture where that kind of failing isn't accepted. Where someone who is clearly called on an error just avoid the point, or drop out of the thread, they're expected to acknowledge their error. It's a culture where the response given in the thread, of incorrect beliefs being more strongly believed after correction, is not accepted.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Sorry, for a minute there i thought that an American, a citizen of one of the most religiously devout nations in the western world with 40-50% of them being young earth creationists and the second highest amount of evolution denialists in the world after Turkey said the increasingly secular UK with one of largest number of agnostic citizens in the world would possibly become a religiously facist nation. Surely i didnt see that.. My mistake. :-)

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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Stormrider wrote:
Albatross wrote:
Stormrider wrote:Why would we emulate a country (and continent) we wanted to get away from?

The Parliamentary system has it positives, but a past parliament produced Hitler. The NSDAP only won 32% of the German vote in 1932, but it was enough to completely derail any semblance of sanity in Germany.

The UK (which I like) unfortunately is a terrible model for "successful" government.


"Don't emulate the UK - you'll end up like Germany in the '30s!"

Erm...OK?


Bit of loss in translation there. The UK isn't headed for political facism anytime soon. Religous facism? Maybe, but not political.

I am saying a Unicameral "House" is a dangerous thing. A fringe group that has only moderate support in a few areas can completely run the country off the cliff.

Although our current bastardization of our original system is really worse in the end.


We have two houses.


So do most of our politicians!

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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I think a lot of OT's problems would be solved if we gave you a gun that could shoot through the internet.

I don't think you'd want that. The slathering right wingers shoot a hell of a lot better than you do...

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mattyrm wrote:Sorry, for a minute there i thought that an American, a citizen of one of the most religiously devout nations in the western world with 40-50% of them being young earth creationists and the second highest amount of evolution denialists in the world after Turkey said the increasingly secular UK with one of largest number of agnostic citizens in the world would possibly become a religiously facist nation. Surely i didnt see that.. My mistake. :-)


It's not native Britons I am talking about, it's your radical friends from the Middle East who are moving in.

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I am in total agreement that america should follow britains examples and that we should also pour millions of gallons of oil into the gulf.

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cormz wrote:I am in total agreement that america should follow britains examples and that we should also pour millions of gallons of oil into the gulf.


Hey BP is Dutch these days!


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mattyrm wrote:
cormz wrote:I am in total agreement that america should follow britains examples and that we should also pour millions of gallons of oil into the gulf.


Hey BP is Dutch these days!


Oh and SR, mate, im pretty right wing myself. But some of your guys just take the biscuit. If you honestly believe that Muslims are somehow going to "take over" the UK you are watching too much Fox News.

We outnumber Muslims by 50 to 1. And immigration is getting tighter by the year. It really cant happen, despite what you read in the right wing tabloids.

.... Fortunately.

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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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cormz wrote:I am in total agreement that america should follow britains examples and that we should also pour millions of gallons of oil into the gulf.


(sigh) I suppose it was only a matter of time before BPs industrial accident and ensuing catastrophe became 'OMG the BRITISH ARE COMING!!!1! tO POUR OIL IN THE SEA!!one!!1'

I blame Obama - he was quick to refer to BP as 'British Petroleum', conveniently sidestepping the fact that Halliburton were also heavily involved. American politicians really DO play to the lowest common denominator, don't they?

Regardless, BP are a listed company with an American branch - they also bid for contracts to drill oil. They don't just drill wherever they like.

I'm not sticking up for BP, just saying that:

BP=BRITISH=BAD

Is manipulative. Don't be taken for a moron by self-interested politicians.


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mattyrm wrote:
cormz wrote:I am in total agreement that america should follow britains examples and that we should also pour millions of gallons of oil into the gulf.


Hey BP is Dutch these days!


That's Shell, or 'Royal Dutch Shell', if you prefer. They are British/Dutch owned.

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 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Albatross wrote:(sigh) I suppose it was only a matter of time before BPs industrial accident and ensuing catastrophe became 'OMG the BRITISH ARE COMING!!!1! tO POUR OIL IN THE SEA!!one!!1'

I blame Obama - he was quick to refer to BP as 'British Petroleum', conveniently sidestepping the fact that Halliburton were also heavily involved. American politicians really DO play to the lowest common denominator, don't they?

Regardless, BP are a private company with an American branch - they also bid for contracts to drill oil. They don't just drill wherever they like.

I'm not sticking up for BP, just saying that:

BP=BRITISH=BAD

Is manipulative. Don't be taken for a moron by self-interested politicians.


Aye I agree with albatross, its ridiculously purile blaming individuals for things as if international incidents are reasons for slating people.

So purile infact i cant believe i just typed that. But just for Cormz..

Its like me saying

"LOL! Americans all act and dress just like this guy!"

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THEY DO!!!
well, i do at least

i'm sorry, i'm just pissed off at BP

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cormz wrote:THEY DO!!!
well, i do at least

i'm sorry, i'm just pissed off at BP


You have every right to be. I am.

But I also know a bogeyman when I see one.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Kilkrazy wrote:Everyone needs to read this article.


I don't believe you.

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Frazzled wrote:
sebster wrote:
dogma wrote:I can start knocking heads, that might help.


I think a lot of OT's problems would be solved if we gave you a gun that could shoot through the internet.

I don't think you'd want that. The slathering right wingers shoot a hell of a lot better than you do...


I didn't say you got an internet gun. Just dogma.

All you'd see is "A' -> B" then BLAM!

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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
 
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