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Kilkrazy wrote:Not if the people he judged are felons and can't vote.
Judges don't administer to a large enough portion of the population for those that they judge to have a noticeable impact on any sort of vote. He sounds like he's either exaggerating a bit or that there are pieces of the story that are missing.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
British murder rates run about 4x the US rates. The british have an extensive CCTV system, draconian gun laws and roughly equivalent police per capita (450 vs. 400).
If the British process yielded better results, we would see it in reduced crime rates. We don't. The only way the British are going to get the USA to adopt their policies is when they switch over to the Judge Dredd system
Durandal wrote:British murder rates run about 4x the US rates. The british have an extensive CCTV system, draconian gun laws and roughly equivalent police per capita (450 vs. 400).
If the British process yielded better results, we would see it in reduced crime rates. We don't. The only way the British are going to get the USA to adopt their policies is when they switch over to the Judge Dredd system
Actually america runs about two to three times the rates that the UK does. Please stop making gak up.
This thread is bad and you should all feel bad. I haven't been so floored by a total lack of knowledge in a discussion since I last tried to explain how heat doesn't actually go up to a co-worker.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
Durandal wrote:British murder rates run about 4x the US rates. The british have an extensive CCTV system, draconian gun laws and roughly equivalent police per capita (450 vs. 400).
If the British process yielded better results, we would see it in reduced crime rates. We don't. The only way the British are going to get the USA to adopt their policies is when they switch over to the Judge Dredd system
Actually america runs about two to three times the rates that the UK does. Please stop making gak up.
This thread is bad and you should all feel bad. I haven't been so floored by a total lack of knowledge in a discussion since I last tried to explain how heat doesn't actually go up to a co-worker.
Since when was Wikipedia a reliable source of information , and when did hot air stop rising?
In the great state of GA in the City of Newnan
County of Coweta. About 30 miles south of Atlanta. I was wondering what I can do to proterst what seems to me to be a cheap money grab. I really don't know what rights people have agiant unfair fines.
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
Im not patriotic, i think the UK is full of people that i loathe, but some of the ridiculously jingoistic Americans i see on here or met when i lived there (only about 10%) actually manage to make me feel proud to be British. America isnt 'the greatest country in the world' no matter how many times you incessantly repeat it. You are no more 'free' than any other decent european nation, and 40% of you think jesus is coming back so we dont need to worry about the future. Stop making random gak up because anyone with google can see it is ridiculous. Oh and for the record, i do think we should have the death penalty, but not if it means we suddenly develop a baying mob mentality like some of you guys are displaying.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
Punishment sets an example to the rest of people to not commit crimes. If a guillotine was waiting for you as soon as you were convicted of a crime, you would think twice. UP the punishment. Rehab does nothing. The criminal is just like, "Hell yeah, I don't have to do anything or get punished, I just get to tell my feelings and then go home scot free."
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You don't think America is the greatest nation since the Roman Empire? We have the strongest military in the world, and that is what counts. Plus, look at how much we have done in the past couple hundred years. It has taken the ancient UK forever just to become what they are now, below young America. As for the British, they outlawed an American radio talk show host from their nation, putting him on a list with terrorists that were forbidden to enter Britain. Shows their commitment to free speech. PS- He was a conservative radio host, not an islamic extremist.
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BlutEisenRegel wrote:Punishment sets an example to the rest of people to not commit crimes. If a guillotine was waiting for you as soon as you were convicted of a crime, you would think twice. UP the punishment. Rehab does nothing. The criminal is just like, "Hell yeah, I don't have to do anything or get punished, I just get to tell my feelings and then go home scot free."
There are problems with any rehab actually working, but if it ends up being more cost effective, then it makes perfect sense to me. I don't consider the assumption that career criminals are career criminals... are career criminals (ad infinitum), a very sound assumption. In fact, I consider it blatantly false. A person that enters prison for theft, may leave with knowledge that could elevate their status to murderer. A balance of punishment and rehab seems to be the most obvious compromise.
I don't want potheads entering prison, to exit as thieves. Nor do I want thieves, to exit prison as murderers. That is a very real problem with our current prison system, and it is a very complicated subject.
@mattyrm
You don't think America is the greatest nation since the Roman Empire? We have the strongest military in the world, and that is what counts. Plus, look at how much we have done in the past couple hundred years. It has taken the ancient UK forever just to become what they are now, below young America. As for the British, they outlawed an American radio talk show host from their nation, putting him on a list with terrorists that were forbidden to enter Britain. Shows their commitment to free speech. PS- He was a conservative radio host, not an islamic extremist.
Greatest nation = 'Strongest' military?
What a load of hogwash...
2010/05/29 01:15:21
Subject: Re:America should follow britains example.
BlutEisenRegel wrote:
As for the British, they outlawed an American radio talk show host from their nation, putting him on a list with terrorists that were forbidden to enter Britain. Shows their commitment to free speech. PS- He was a conservative radio host, not an islamic extremist.
With some of the conservative radio nuts you hear, I fail to see how this is an outrage.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
2010/05/29 01:23:45
Subject: Re:America should follow britains example.
Durandal wrote:British murder rates run about 4x the US rates. The british have an extensive CCTV system, draconian gun laws and roughly equivalent police per capita (450 vs. 400).
If the British process yielded better results, we would see it in reduced crime rates. We don't. The only way the British are going to get the USA to adopt their policies is when they switch over to the Judge Dredd system
Actually america runs about two to three times the rates that the UK does. Please stop making gak up.
This thread is bad and you should all feel bad. I haven't been so floored by a total lack of knowledge in a discussion since I last tried to explain how heat doesn't actually go up to a co-worker.
Britain leads both the EU and the US. Although, I must admit according to this it isn't four times as much.
Of course it is all in how you slice the data. I found some 2003 documents that show the Britain reported 2,715,000 incidents of violent crime, and the USA 1,383,676. When you normalize for population that gives Britain 46 per thousand and the USA at 4.7 per thousand, so unless I made a decimal place error that is a 10x difference.
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Britain is looking to copy Australia's voting method. So America copying the UK would be odd.
You have got to read between the lines here. Voting change, I hate to say reform as reform sounds too positive is a Big Lib Dem issue because Lib Dems will profit from it. Thus this is central to a deal with Clegg, niether Tories nor Labour will like this so expect the referendum to end in an open vote in the commons.
Clegg will get his fair chance at voting 'reform' and Cameron will get his fair chance to se it voted out. Cameron is in fact playing this smart use an agreement with the Lib Dems on an issue critical to them to garner their support and use the Labour Party to quash the idea.
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Durandal wrote:British murder rates run about 4x the US rates. The british have an extensive CCTV system, draconian gun laws and roughly equivalent police per capita (450 vs. 400).
If the British process yielded better results, we would see it in reduced crime rates. We don't. The only way the British are going to get the USA to adopt their policies is when they switch over to the Judge Dredd system
Actually america runs about two to three times the rates that the UK does. Please stop making gak up.
This thread is bad and you should all feel bad. I haven't been so floored by a total lack of knowledge in a discussion since I last tried to explain how heat doesn't actually go up to a co-worker.
Since when was Wikipedia a reliable source of information , and when did hot air stop rising?
So check some reliable sites like the UN Crime Survey and CIA World Factbook.
The truth is that the per capita murder rate of the US is triple the UK rate.
I found some 2003 documents that show the Britain reported 2,715,000 incidents of violent crime, and the USA 1,383,676. When you normalize for population that gives Britain 46 per thousand and the USA at 4.7 per thousand, so unless I made a decimal place error that is a 10x difference.
Yeah, for violent crime, not MURDER.
I find that not at all surprising, because that's just violent crime. I'm no sort of expert, but my impression has always been that the British have a real tradition of physical violence. I'd think soccer hooliganry alone would outpace all American "violence" in and of itself. They just seem to enjoy a good drink and a good punching.
If you think about it, it stands to reason. In the US, guns are all over the place. If you do enough brawling, eventually somebody is going ot pull a gun out. That'll diminish enthusiasm fast... But in the UK, you can be pretty sure a brawl is just gonna be a brawl. I guess knives have to be considered, but it seems like there's just a more clear attitude of fighting and being done at that.
What's the worst that could happen? You get a tooth punched out. You're British, it's not like it was any good, right?
That last part is for mattyrm.
Also: US RULZ
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Yeah the Dj your talking about was that Savage Nation bloke, i actually mentioned him in another thread last week, saying that its odd that we banned him, but lets be honest, the mans an absolute tool, and most of the public will agree with the decision, so whats the problem? See this is the thing that annoys me about the right in America, they would love it if we banned an extreme islamist, and we do all the time. Its just hypocricy. As i said, dont take this the wrong way, my missus is American, ive lived there for about 2 years all in, and i liked it for a while, ive been to and trained in 6 states and i enjoy the company of most people there and i have numerous good American friends both civvie and military, but if i do the math i prefer it in the UK, because maybe only one in every hundred people is a far right DB. In the USA there seems to be this core 10-15% of people that just get rolled off a production line. I meet one everytime i go out there. A right wing gun loving gay hating 'im not racist but really i am racist' religious zealot. They seem to like the British for some reason, so we always get along to some degree, especially with me invading iraq and being so pro military action and all, but i just think people like that arent quite wired properly. And just like you said, they seem to think that having the biggest military makes you 'the best'. Norway has a better standard of living than the Uk and the Usa, so i dont see the fascination in having a mighty army. Its odd for me as im pretty right wing myself, and i agree with maybe half of what those type of blokes say, i like guns, dislike liberals and enjoy a good war or two, but they just take it to a whole new level of flag waving insanity. Being patriotic is certainly not a virtue, and the USA strikes me as easily being the most Jingoistic and aggressively patriotic, and i genuinelly think its a bad thing.
Automatically Appended Next Post: most patriotic of the English speaking nations i meant to say, excuse my grammar im on my phone. :-)
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.