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So what army would be a better choice?

I prefer Imperial Guard myself, but then I did like Starship Troopers in a sense.

I prefer Imperial Guard myself, but then I did like Starship Troopers in a sense.

I think Id agree, I would find an IG movie far more interesting. And heck, its not as though the Ultramarines couldnt make a cameo.

Make an imperial gaurd movie and have the space marines show up art the end to steal all the glory, I don't like how they've completly changed the captain of the second company though.

plus with 1000 chapters out their they could of put them all on a big wheeland spun it to see which one to pick

Some people in this thread make me wonder...

Did you expect there not to be any ULTRAMARINES in a film called ULTRAMARINES?

No that it was going to be filled with the boys in blue was not what was surprising.

People are just anoyed that instead of picking another chapter that nobody hears about alot the pick ULTRAMARINES hur hur hur to fill the spotlight

they are the biggest Mary Sue I've ever seen, even if they are the flagship army

TEASER != TRAILER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dEdVwg7to4 TEASER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkqzFUhGPJgp TRAILER

Christ, we KNOW what a teaser is! This is just a bad teaser.

Rube wrote:Christ, we KNOW what a teaser is! This is just a bad teaser.

I agree with you on the second part, but go through the posts and see how many people are comparing this teaser to a 3 minute long trailer (some with links)...

I will be starting an Ultramarines army, simply based on the angst in this thread.

The Ultramarines are the closest thing to good guys that the Imperium has. That's why they're the subject of the movies. The Iron Hands' purging of the Contqual Sector,while cool, would most likely turn off people that aren't quite so into grimdark.

I hope you all understand that this movie is not for us but for the further propogation of the GW franchise to mainstream audiences. I hope the people creating this movie ignore the fickle fanbase and create a descent action movie that gets new people interested and excited about 40k. Remember the more people in our hobby, the better things will become so we should really get behind this movie.

Anyhoo any one expecting avatar level animation needs to check their expectations in at the door. GW wont have the budget for even 5 seconds of that. I reckon getting those iconic names as voice actors was a brilliant move and at least brings quality acting and helps audiences get drawn into the movie as those voices will be familar to most people. I think that's moeny better spent than graphics that after a couple of seconds people basically ignore (avatar anyone, five minutes of hey thats cool and then it was pretty much who cares). But at least the graphics are better than the clone wars animated series.

Finally, I bet most of the people who have negatively posted thus far have no clue as to what goes into getting the textures, wire frames and rendering effects together to make that teaser. Remember they arent producing animation for computer games here but cinema level viewing, it is a completely different level. Even at the level you saw in the teaser, that represents a huge amount of effort. I think the makers of ultramarine have been really generous with the amount of media they have freely shared with us. Some of us should be a lot more greatful, more thoughtful and far more constructive with their critisism.

I personally don't have a problem with it but can see why some people do, as long as the bolters make people explode I'll be happy

Surprise, surprise.

"Ultramanzz suck, and Imma against the establishment!!!11one1!"

Normally I'm not one for rants, but when a beatdown of, what, 20 seconds of footage is based on a personal hatred of the Space Romans, it gets me a little riled.
Look, the Ultramarines are not that bad. Yeah, I said it, they aren't as bad as some people are making out. I've read that damn new C:SM, and yes, it's god-awful in places (such as anything to do with Marneus Calgar), but it's not the be-all and end-all of the source material for the Ultramarines. They actually have some pretty good fluff if you discount the Codex, such as their being the legion with the purest gene-seed, their hatred of the 'nids due to the invasion of Ultramar, and the idea that they echo Ancient Rome at the height of it's glory. The hate really just comes from people who think they aren't interesting enough (not everyone can be a Space Viking you know) and thus label anything to do with them as "rubbish."

On topic, yes, the teaser was a little more basic than I would have liked, but then that's what teasers do. I think somebody mentioned the Batman Begins teaser a few pages back?

Well here's the Dark Knight's equivalent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clvbS_33mk&feature=related
Now, I'll admit this is better, but as you can see, there is no action in it. At all. Does this make it bad? Nope.

My suggestion would be to judge the film ONCE it comes out and you've seen it, not before.

Meh, not bad, well it didnt really show anything...

Rube wrote:Also, what is it with GW trying to piss off all their other customers? Even if Ultramarines are the most played army of all, that doesn't mean the majority of players collect Ultramarines. For example, if 10% of players collect Ultramarines, that might be higher than any other army, but it's still only 10% of all the players. If GW say 'Ultramarines are the bestest soldiers ever, if you picked any other army sucks to be you because your army wishes it could be as great as the Ultramarines!' they're pissing off 90% of their playerbase to appease 10% of it. It's a false economy.

This is how the Codex writing works, though. Every army is 'featured' and the best at what they do (waiting for Codex; Wolverine) in their own book. I would almost be surprised if they weren't.

I would guess if this does well we might see more Chapters, and maybe IG and Imperial elements, in follow-ups... I expect it to be a bit 'stylized' so if the Blood Angels show up they will be pretty boys, the Space Wolves will be hairy barbarians, etc.

I hate "teasers" and this exemplifies why; words flying at the screen doesn't do much to heighten my anticipation. Lame.

Maybe the people writing the fluff don't think that people are going to take the Ultramarines being the flagship army as a personal attack.

Middle Child Sydrome for the win.

Balance wrote:This is how the Codex writing works, though. Every army is 'featured' and the best at what they do (waiting for Codex; Wolverine) in their own book. I would almost be surprised if they weren't.

It's Codex: Space Marines, not Codex: Ultramarines. Though from reading the codex you can hardly tell this fact.

Hell, papa smurf's litlte smurflings make a presence in the fething painting section of C:WH, they're so damn ubiquitous it makes me want to hurlk. Preferably a rock, and preferably at a GW employee for putting the ugly frakkers into my Sisters codex.

I think you should re-read the codex then.

I've seen less accurate posts... But not many.

Then you haven't read many posts. One of the biggest complaints I've heard about it is how they glorify Ultramarines over every other chapter any chance they can, even going so far as to claim the other chapters-- INCLUDING the other first founding, IE the other legions-- want to be like the Ultramarines.

Yeah, I'm sure the Iron Hand want to be like the weak and fleshy Ultramarines...

They could be trying to pull more people into the hobby by using a well known name in the 40k universe like the Ultramarines in the movie instead of for instance the Iron Snakes chapter. I agree it would be interesting to see more movies later featuring eldar, IG, orks and all of the other races but i think its ok to start with a well rounded well known chapter of marines.

No, I've read your posts Melissia. This blood vendetta of yours against Space Marines borders on ridiculous.

I'm not going to explain where you're dead wrong about a lot of your assertions about the fluff, as this isn't the thread for it. Just know that by constantly harping on this you look rather ignorant and silly.

Hope it's nids...

At least they got the narrator from Hellboy!

Monster Rain wrote:No, I've read your posts Melissia. This blood vendetta of yours against Space Marines borders on ridiculous.

Of course it does, after all it's hard for something that doesn't exist to not be made out to be ridiculous.

Stated as though practically every page of this thread doesn't prove otherwise... Go ahead and get the last word in, I'm done with this.

Monster Rain wrote:Stated as though practically every page of this thread doesn't prove otherwise... Go ahead and get the last word in, I'm done with this.

... you mean aside from the fact that I've rather explicitly stated that I like Space Wolves and Grey Knights?

Gee willywonkers Monster Rain, I sure am a Marine hater! Why, just the other day, I tied Marny's shoe laces together!

ductvader wrote:Hope it's nids...

At least they got the narrator from Hellboy!

And don't forget Merlin! He voices the opening for that show too.

John Hurt is voicing Severus from what I understand...so he's not just "narrating" the opening.

Hey guys, I posted my experience on my blog.

it has a brief outline of what was said during the panel and a pretty interesting hint I got.

http://www.heresy-online.net/miscellaneous/ultramarines-movie-panel/

Maybe he can even add some emotion to the role. He didn't do a bad job as Kane in Alien, though I haven't seen many of his films (not being British, where most of them are marketed).

I hope it's not chaos space marines...chaos daemons would be better than that.