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I like Sisters and not Marines (well, for the most part anyway, my beliefs and opinions on the subject can hardly be stated in a single sentence), so apparently I am part of that group...

Melissia wrote:Or the people who get annoyed at the ignorant teens who constantly proclaim American pop singers are the cream of musical talent.

QFT.

But anyway, the point being made was that liking Ultramarines does not automatically make you a tool. Some people actually do like them for fluff (and I'm not talking about the new fluff, by the way. No, sir!)

If I didn't play a home brew Chapter, I'd play Ultramarines. I like their fluff and attitude.

leejerrum wrote:Hey guys, I posted my experience on my blog.

it has a brief outline of what was said during the panel and a pretty interesting hint I got.

http://www.heresy-online.net/miscellaneous/ultramarines-movie-panel/

Somewhere in here, the guy you were quoting, or perhaps it was you, said that the DoW2 trailer look is really cartoony and you think it is bad?

I don't know... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QmsNZ6fj3Q this looks pretty good to me. I really hope the movie is par with the visual fidelity in this at least. Am I missing something that makes this look bad?

They still don't do bolters correctly though, in game or in the movie :(

Wow, I can't believe the negative reaction. And I love to complain. I guess it's a sign you're getting older when you just accept things for what they are. I'm excited, makes me want to attend GDUK in hopes they release it there.

I'd just like to say that was the worst trailer I've seen for anything. Ever.

Cheerio.

It wasn't a trailer.

Wow, that was underwhelming....

It was a teaser, not a trailer.

Why such cynicism? I'll definitely keep up with it so I can see an actual trailer when it comes out. I've always liked the Ultramarines, as they are pretty much the closest thing to truly possessing nobility and virtue in the 40k universe.

Hmmm. Im still on the fence.

I don't really like the UM, but I am glad they are finally making a 40k movie, even if its about UM.

Although "and the greatest of them all, the Ultramarines" a bit over the top IMO.
I know this is just a catchphrase to get non 40k players to see the movie, but still.

Anyway, enough criticism for something that has barely started, lest wait for a proper trailer instead of a teaser or the movie itself.

I doubt that many non 40k players would even notice this movie...

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

countchocula86 wrote:You know who I hate even more than the Ultramarines? People who post in this thread with "...take it easy guys..." or "....what did you expect...."

The whole point of having this thread is for discussion. It doesnt have to be a GW/Ultramarine lovefest, nor does it have to be blind acceptance of everything GW puts out.

What, so people can't have an opposing opinion from yours now? Surely that's the whole point of a discussion, to have a range of opinions put forward?
Also, where in this thread is there any "blind acceptance?"

Can you fail at reading comprehension any more? I don't think it's possible. He is directing his admonishment at people trying to stifle others voicing their opinion, much like you are accusing him of doing. Unless, of course, your point is that people shouldn't tell people that people shouldn't tell people their opinion. In which case, you shouldn't tell people that people shouldn't tell people that people shouldn't tell people their opinion, and so on, and so forth, ad nauseam.

Malika2 wrote:I doubt that many non 40k players would even notice this movie...

Sci-fi fans and animated movies junkies will.
Plus, there's always the reviews and sites like IMDB.

It was a good teaser, and i think the movie might do ok. who knows, it might be the next star wars.

Somehow I doubt that. Not even Star Wars was able to be "the next Star Wars".

Grignard wrote:I've always liked the Ultramarines, as they are pretty much the closest thing to truly possessing nobility and virtue in the 40k universe.

Only if you ask an Ultramarine. Otherwise, I think they're as corrupt, fascist, self important and domineering as any other imperial army, if not more so. Nobility and virtue are more in line with, and valued by Eldar and Tau ideologies, in my opinion.

But, as was mentioned, this film will be crafted to a standard of universal appeal. And while this teaser kinda sucked, who knows how the movie itself will hold up...

Eldar have no nobility, nor virtue. They will engineer the death of billions to save a small handful. Their entire culture is based upon building mental prisons for their dark impulses, which otherwise have a tendency to create demon gods that want to put things in your butt.

Nobility and virtue are quite valued by Sisters.

But what makes nobility and virtue is subjective. With one definition, you could say that Ultramarines are indeed noble and virtuous. With another, you could say noone in 40k is.

Well, according to the Imperial definition of Noble and Virtuous and comparing only Astartes Chapters, I'd say Imperial Fists would be at the top.

The brave and heroic Word Bearers are the most noble and virtuous of all Astartes.

terribletrygon wrote:The brave and heroic Word Bearers are the most noble and virtuous of all Astartes.

ermmm...ok. To each its own.
I just wouldn't call any chaos legion brave an noble.

If you noticed I wrote Astertes Chapters that rules out legions and chaos marines.

Awesome! I am excited about this no matter what!

Man there are some haters out there! Nearly (my disclaimer) everyone here will watch this movie... even if reviews are crap.

Why?

Because it's a 40k movie. And to whoever said a 'better marine' trailer is the starcraft teaser/trailer... may want to think how big a company blizzard is to codex pictures or whatever they are called.

It wasn't the teaser that worries me... it's the timeframe to make this movie.

“It is very exciting for us to be able to show this very first segment of finished animation for ULTRAMARINES

Soooo.... that 3 seconds of animation is all they have FINISHED? I will be as old as the marine by the time it comes out...

Also don't forget that GW only gives the license to people that can do the universe justice, so codex pics must have done something right, even more so if the DoW trailers are anything to go by..

Greatest fear is they make it PG or something ridiculous like that. 40k is a gritty, unhappy place... the rating should reflect that...

Terminus wrote:Avatar was a good movie, but really just had a silly ending. Anyone can see what happens immediately after the credits roll: the mercenaries go home, make up a sob story about the savage natives, the Colonel gets a post-mortem Medal of Honor, the Earth Navy mobilizes and napalms the planet bare from orbit, and then strip-mine that bitch.

Then, 500 years later, enter Borderlands.

Anyway, teaser could've been better, but I still have decent hopes for the movie. Dan Abnett and John Hurt, people!

Terminus wrote:They will engineer the death of billions to save a small handful. Their entire culture is based upon building mental prisons for their dark impulses, which otherwise have a tendency to create demon gods that want to put things in your butt.

Were it not for the context of this, I'd think you were talking about the Imperium...

Archonate wrote:

Terminus wrote:They will engineer the death of billions to save a small handful. Their entire culture is based upon building mental prisons for their dark impulses, which otherwise have a tendency to create demon gods that want to put things in your butt.

Were it not for the context of this, I'd think you were talking about the Imperium...

nah, the Imperium summons all kinds of daemons (accidentally) not just butt prospecting daemons.

GW's flagship army is Ultramarines. We know. So it's not surprising that they will be 'the greatest of them all' in the first 40K movie.

What IS surprising is the amount of people that take this as a personal kick in the shins. Yes, you all believe your army is the greatest, which is fine, but when you are posting that at every given opportunity, you just set yourself up to be an object of ridicule.

Loving the John Hurt.....but greatest are ultramarines...LOL WUT!

Sternguard_rock wrote:Loving the John Hurt.....but greatest are ultramarines...LOL WUT!

I do think the Ultramarines are the most in line with pre imperial ideas of nobility and courage. If you've read The Killing Ground ( its been a while since i've read it, so someoen correct me if I have anything wrong), part of the plot involves an atrocity committed by an imperial commander, and the UM characters express their disgust over it. The nation of Ultramar seems to me what the Imperium "should" have been. Its hard, dark, and unforgiving like the rest of the 41 millennium, but even their serfs have dignity and they can earn respect.

John Hurt is awesome. Whenever I think of him I think of the movie Rob Roy. He had a great role as Montrosse ( thats it, right?), and delivered witty barbs and one upmanship masquerading as small talk with acerbic British wit like a master.

As far rating, I seems to me that it will be PG-13, as they ask when you register if you're at least 13