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Pics (that actually work!) guys, pics!

BrookM wrote:feth the wristbands, Konami lanyards!

Those were the GenCon badge holder giveaways this year.

I dont get it... How can the same guy that signed off all those beautiful models they make have given this the ok for production?

Alpharius wrote:Pics (that actually work!) guys, pics!

It got deleted from the gallery.

Sorry, this image has been deleted or removed for the following reason: Image is not related to wargaming

The big demon does look like a bits hack job.

Actually, I’m far more interested in how they interpreted the head bad guy himself, aka Lucifer. I don’t see any close up pics of that model. From the blurry image, he seems to have this disgraced, morose pose but I can’t really tell.

voidfiend wrote:
The big demon does look like a bits hack job.

Actually, I’m far more interested in how they interpreted the head bad guy himself, aka Lucifer. I don’t see any close up pics of that model. From the blurry image, he seems to have this disgraced, morose pose but I can’t really tell.

Fyi - according to the fluff Lucifer is not the head bad guy, Satan is. Lucifer and Satan are different people in Ex-illis.

Here is the bio in case anyone is interested.

Edit forgot the link


Please note: the wiki is not completed and still being built. Cut my boys some slack with your grammer, spelling and punctuation commentary.


http://ex-illis.com/wikien/Lucifer

I think if I were investing a lot of money into a business and wanted to be taken seriously, spelling, grammar, and punctuation on my web site would be something I paid close attention to.

Then again it doesn't look like much attention was paid to this big mess of a demon either.

MadNes wrote:

voidfiend wrote:
The big demon does look like a bits hack job.

Actually, I’m far more interested in how they interpreted the head bad guy himself, aka Lucifer. I don’t see any close up pics of that model. From the blurry image, he seems to have this disgraced, morose pose but I can’t really tell.

Fyi - according to the fluff Lucifer is not the head bad guy, Satan is. Lucifer and Satan are different people in Ex-illis.

Here is the bio in case anyone is interested.

Edit forgot the link


Please note: the wiki is not completed and still being built. Cut my boys some slack with your grammer, spelling and punctuation commentary.


http://ex-illis.com/wikien/Lucifer

That backround story is pure win!

I'm not sure about a tabletop game requiring a PC/Iphone but this is just begging to be played as an RPG.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Well... I ordered some of their Priests.

I hope they fit with 40K models...

A few techy bits on them and they should fit in fine. I was looking at an older metal mini recently of an astropath and was surprised at how in proportion it was including realistically sized hands. Smaller and thinner is needed for humans in 40K and these guys should blend right in.

I am still waiting for an explanation why I should play a game that does most of the playing on the computer and keeps me only pushing around minis on the tabletop instead of completely playing on the PC....

Duncan_Idaho wrote:I am still waiting for an explanation why I should play a game that does most of the playing on the computer and keeps me only pushing around minis on the tabletop instead of completely playing on the PC....

It's WARGAMING 2.0!

The winged dudes look pretty sweet.

The big demon looks kind of cheap, like a kid's toy.

The head is crazy looking, kind of cool in a Manga demon way.

It is not bad, but compared to the other demon models out there like FW, Ultraforge, Rakham, GW, etc. it just doesn't compete.

Perhaps in RL it looks nicer, but that thing looks like something you would buy at Toys R Us.

Duncan_Idaho wrote:I am still waiting for an explanation why I should play a game that does most of the playing on the computer and keeps me only pushing around minis on the tabletop instead of completely playing on the PC....

You set em up, I'll knock em down

http://ex-illis.com/en/podcast.xml

For those of you interested, the question is answered in the intro podcast. The podcast features the creative director speaking with various bastion peeps. Its an informative listen.

Enjoy


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Cant seem to get the link work'n

Try

http://reader.mac.com/mobile/v1/http%3A%2F%2Fex-illis.com%2Fen%2Fpodcast.xml

Do we have a price on this guy yet? I also need to find a place for him in one of my armies...

On the bright side, those angels are gorgeous.

I've seen it played and played myself, but still, that´s not what I expect from a good TT and I've been playing for more than two decades.

Those angel models are great. Hopefully you can build an army of just angels if you want. Does Satan get his own army as well?

I want to like the big demon, but the lack of a face really puts me off the model. The concept art looks much better to me than the actual model itself. I might consider buying it if there were an alternate head with an actual face on it.

Third, I love Lucifer's bio, but I"m not going to playing a game without my trusty tape measure and tub of dice. Especially since I don't own a laptop or a fancy phone.

Duncan_Idaho wrote:Actually Helldorado has such a big Bellytongue-Guy.....

yeah but that guys is small regular sized big mouth dude... I want a massive belly mouth dude.

Panic..>

I say it's more Nurgle than Tzeentch. That it's Plastic doesn't bother me; just makes it simpler to get together, and to work with, should I wish to do a little Conversion. Are the Ex Illis Miniatures shown for Reference the same size as our 28mm Miniatures? I might pick one up for use as a Daemon Prince...

Tried the demo and well.. we tossed our little grid map and tokens out straight away after turn one.

Dear devs, build LAN and WWW connection in the software and just sell it as a full blown game instead of "assistance software".

BrookM wrote:Tried the demo and well.. we tossed our little grid map and tokens out straight away after turn one.

Dear devs, build LAN and WWW connection in the software and just sell it as a full blown game instead of "assistance software".

Those are my feelings on the game. Either make it a computer game or a mini's game. Not some weird hybrid that tries to replace dice, tape, and books with a laptop.

$50 for the big guy

Yes, you.can make an all Angel or all Demon army. Currently I'm working on a mercenary army consisting of Angels, Fallen Angels and Demons. This partucular army diesn't really like humans who've persecuted them. fyi - due to the way list building works, fluffy lists are usually the most effective lists in the game.

For those of you who tried the game and didn't like it, AWESOME, at least you gave it a shot. THATS what matters. Every game will not be for everybody.

As for the validity of this game existing in hybrid form... There are plenty of us who like the game as is, that makes the format valid enough. Just not your cup of tea, and that's cool.

MadNes wrote: There are plenty of us who like the game as is, that makes the format valid enough.

I do hope theres plenty of fans because looking from the outside I can see a huge money investment on this game from the developers... artwork, plastic kits, design, game development, software etc... This is by no means pocket change project. I hope they do really well in order to pay all those things.

You and me both brother. I keep tellin em they need to diversify their product range - sell more types of stuff.

They give everything away for free but the models.

I met the guys at GenCon, they seem pretty confident. I really dig this game, hopefully it will be around for a long while.

NAVARRO wrote:

MadNes wrote: There are plenty of us who like the game as is, that makes the format valid enough.

I do hope theres plenty of fans because looking from the outside I can see a huge money investment on this game from the developers... artwork, plastic kits, design, game development, software etc... This is by no means pocket change project. I hope they do really well in order to pay all those things.

If not, they join a long list of "good idea + flawed execution = Dead Game". And sometimes the failure means they do something different to get it right, if they have the funding. Confrontation is still re-inventing themselves this way and coming back from the dead. In the end, they have the reality of needing enough sales of miniatures to make a profit.

Dunno why, but something about how sharp these guys are has me confident they will succeed. They dkn't say much in internet land, but they are listening. That is evident in how quickly they react to market demands -

Low availabilty - they ink alliance
Ambiguous rules - release the wiki
Inability to proxy / playtest - release trial offer
Complaints of mono pose minis - BAM the Angels

Its that type of response to consumer demand that makes me think they are going to make it. Plus, its a slick game.

But you've also proven yourself to be a huge, overly supportive fan of their product in the past, so that could also be considered a rather biased opinion.

I think that they -could- be successful in the future, but they definately need to improve quality. Their stuff isn't bad, mind you. The ideas and designs are certainly interesting enough. They're just poorly executed is all. The units are very static, angels or no. And there's a big range in consistency of the sculpts. Case in point - the skin textures on this demon that everyone has noticed. That's a big quality gap for a lot of people. Plus, the model just looks so bland to me. No matter how well painted it is. It's a good base for converting, but as a stock mini, it needs work. lots of work

Having the game require a laptop also hurts the 'slickness' of the game. But that's been covered in past threads about the game.

They could succeed, but they've got a ways to go before that's a sure road.

My opinion SUPER biased. I didn't guarantee success, I merely stated my opinion.

Here is some food for thought. I was not BORN an Ex illis fan, or programmed to be such at the release date.

I've evolved into a super fan because the company, the game experience, the modelz (regardless of your tastes or opinion) have been that good for me.

I've been a fan of several game systems in the past and still enjoy several games other than Ex-illis. The difference is, non of those games have been impactfull enough to cause me to "evangelize" the game.

I believe THAT is saying something about the quality of work bastion is producing.

On a side note - I don't know that its possible to be OVERLY supertive of a fledgling endeavor that obviously has the odds stacked against it.
Besides all I'm doing is having a friendly discussion with you fine people. That is a pleasure which takes almost no effort on my part.

.wj

MadNes wrote:My opinion SUPER biased. I didn't guarantee success, I merely stated my opinion.

Here is some food for thought. I was not BORN an Ex illis fan, or programmed to be such at the release date.

I've evolved into a super fan because the company, the game experience, the modelz (regardless of your tastes or opinion) have been that good for me.

I've been a fan of several game systems in the past and still enjoy several games other than Ex-illis. The difference is, non of those games have been impactfull enough to cause me to "evangelize" the game.

I believe THAT is saying something about the quality of work bastion is producing.

On a side note - I don't know that its possible to be OVERLY supertive of a fledgling endeavor that obviously has the odds stacked against it.
Besides all I'm doing is having a friendly discussion with you fine people. That is a pleasure which takes almost no effort on my part.

How do we know they aren't paying you?