Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 11:17:09
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
|
By strange co-incidence I received my Zombie Horde today. I had ordered it months ago from Caliver Books, and it has been out of stock, no doubt thanks to these supply problems.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/24 12:21:55
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
so.. it will affect the release of the new miniatures? you know, the orcs and the amazons.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/25 00:57:26
Subject: Re:Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
|
Soulhunter wrote:
WGF has posted some new previews for samurai ( at least that is keeping some people happy)
The strange thing is that these models look like those very common 3 up's so it seems that ( for this range) the concept of 3d concepts on the computer has been abandonned.
Thank God for that. WGF's 3d sculptor was terrible.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/25 08:11:01
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Calculating Commissar
|
JohnHwangDD wrote:That said, I will correct it, and edit my post to restore what you originally said. My edit made you look more erudite than your original post suggests.
Well, it's not like erudition is appreciated in these parts. This forum has always been much more at home with crude jokes and mindlessly adhering to a repeated meme like a bunch of robots.
|
The supply does not get to make the demands. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/25 08:28:21
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Ruthless Rafkin
|
Agamemnon2 wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:That said, I will correct it, and edit my post to restore what you originally said. My edit made you look more erudite than your original post suggests.
Well, it's not like erudition is appreciated in these parts. This forum has always been much more at home with crude jokes and mindlessly adhering to a repeated meme like a bunch of robots.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/25 08:28:53
-Loki- wrote:
40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/25 23:55:06
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Ancient Chaos Terminator
|
Well, it's not like erudition is appreciated in these parts. This forum has always been much more at home with crude jokes and mindlessly adhering to a repeated meme like a bunch of robots.
Someone was bound to say it eventually.
Wargames Factory seems to be updating their website with product info so maybe things are starting to operate somewhat normally again. http://www.wargamesfactory.com/
|
"I hate movies where the men wear shorter skirts than the women." -- Mystery Science Theater 3000
"Elements of the past and the future combining to create something not quite as good as either." -- The Mighty Boosh
Check out Cinematic Titanic, the new movie riffing project from Joel Hodgson and the original cast of MST3K.
See my latest eBay auctions at this link.
"We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. You have our gratitude!" - Kentucky Fried Movie |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 00:08:25
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
|
Samurai do look very nice..... be interesting to see how these look once they are released.
|
3500 pts Black Legion
3500 pts Iron Warriors
2500 pts World Eaters
1950 pts Emperor's Children
333 pts Daemonhunters
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 03:15:30
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
The New Miss Macross!
|
can someone post a link or the pic of the new samurai?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 03:47:03
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Incorporating Wet-Blending
|
warboss wrote:can someone post a link or the pic of the new samurai?
They have a link on their front page: http://wargamesfactory.com/announcements/preview-samurai-figures
|
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 04:00:42
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
|
Valhallan42nd wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:That said, I will correct it, and edit my post to restore what you originally said. My edit made you look more erudite than your original post suggests.
Well, it's not like erudition is appreciated in these parts. This forum has always been much more at home with crude jokes and mindlessly adhering to a repeated meme like a bunch of robots.

So.....that exchange made me choke a bit on my drink. Don't ever change Dakka.
|
Adepticon TT 2009---Best Heretical Force
Adepticon 2010---Best Appearance Warhammer Fantasy Warbands
Adepticon 2011---Best Team Display
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 22:06:38
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Plastictrees
|
I have a hard time believing that those samurai sculpts are actually intended to be 28mm plastics based on the poses and level of detail.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 22:16:47
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
|
They are 3 ups. I.E. ~84mm. They get scaled down as they go about the production process.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/26 22:21:46
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Plastictrees
|
chaos0xomega wrote:They are 3 ups. I.E. ~84mm. They get scaled down as they go about the production process.
I know. Look at the detail on them. The braided ropes, the texture on the armour. There's no way that's surviving to 28mm, especially given the level of detail on previous WGF models.
I also don't see how they're going to effectively slice them up to be multiparts on a sprue.
Plastic Samurai would be great, I'll just be surprised if we see these guys in plastic.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 00:08:33
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
|
Ah, I do see what you mean. Yeah, its not going to sruvive the transition to plastic very well. They are pretty new at the non-computer aided sculpting thing, so...
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 12:38:17
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
|
The going belief among some other people that I know is that these figures will be released as 54mm vanity models. Which would be strange, seeing as how that's really not the realm that WGF tends to operate in.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 13:37:49
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
|
New management = new ideas, perhaps?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 15:37:26
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Gargantuan Gargant
|
The going rumor/news on the WGF site is that the samurai are indeed sculpted by the new sculptor, but were never intended for WGF use.
If you notice in the description, Loniie says it's what the new sculptor has recently completed, but not that WGF will be releasing it.
They are just trying to show us shiny stuff to keep us placated during the transition.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 15:39:17
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
|
Kilkrazy wrote:New management = new ideas, perhaps?
Quite possibly. They could start releasing museum quality My Little Pony reproductions for all I care, just so long as they keep supporting their affordable plastic soldier ranges.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/27 15:39:51
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
|
It's a good idea, actually. It shows the talent of the new sculptor and gets you fired up for what he'll be making
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 16:58:25
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
|
Could be nothing, but currently there are no items for purchase from Wargames Factory. If you try to add anything to your cart, the site tells you that the item is out of print/no longer available.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 03:21:11
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
|
SkaerKrow wrote:Could be nothing, but currently there are no items for purchase from Wargames Factory. If you try to add anything to your cart, the site tells you that the item is out of print/no longer available.
From their boards it seems their stock is still in Massachusets and being shipped to the new owner's HQ in Utah.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/15 03:21:54
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 12:59:30
Subject: Re:Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
|
Ah, good catch, KK. Thanks for pointing that out.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 22:28:26
Subject: Re:Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Damn, this thread was easier to find with google than with Dakka's search function. Anyway:
The current owner Wai Kee Hu of Wargames Factory finally made a statement answering to the accusations by Tony Reidy:
Public Statement from Wai Kee Hui regarding Wargames Factory
It has been a little more than 2 months since Tony Reidy posted his “Open Letter to Wai Kee Hui” on The Miniatures Page website. I was aware of this “letter” at the time of posting and although I was annoyed at his unprofessional tone and angered at what amounted to many outright lies, I decided that my best course of action was to stay out of online politics and instead focus on trying to get the company I had recently become majority shareholder of into functional order.
The past 2 months have been extremely busy with trying to figure out what orders had been placed and paid for before I took over, inventorying product that was still in stock at Triangle and setting up a new order platform and shipping facility. These goals have now been accomplished, with all outstanding orders shipped and our web store reopened.
Throughout this process I was cognizant of the defamation of character my associates and I were receiving in Cyberspace at the hands of Tony Reidy and Howard Whitehouse. Even though at many times the temptation was strong for me to jump in and tell my side of the story, I refrained from doing so while we were struggling to put Wargames Factory back on track. Now that we are on the road to recovery, and in lieu of increasingly slanderous postings being made by Tony and Howard, I feel the time has come for me to set the record straight.
I became majority shareholder of Wargames Factory along with all its’ intellectual properties on October 13th, 2010. This acquisition occurred because over the course of the previous 2 years Tony Reidy had run up a bill of more than $250,000 with my manufacturing company in China and had failed to make a single payment on his bill during this time. Despite rumors to the contrary, I am not an immensely wealthy man and this is a huge sum of money to me. When it became evident that Tony was unable and unwilling to pay his debt to me, I had to consider my options. Option 1 was that I cease making product for Tony and call in the debt I was owed, which would effectively put Wargames Factory out of business. Option 2 was that I assume 51% ownership of Wargames Factory in return for the $250,000 I was owed . The intention behind option 2 was that I would gain controlling interest and help manage the company into some sort of financial health, where I might be able to recoup the monies owed me as well as make money for the rest of the shareholders. When both options were presented to Tony Reidy he chose option 2 and signed the paperwork transferring majority ownership to me on October 13th, 2010.
What occurred next is that Tony Reidy felt he should still be able to continue to manage Wargames Factory as he saw fit, with my only input being to proceed to produce product as before. This was not a scenario I was comfortable with, for obvious reasons. As a point of fact, before I signed the paperwork transferring the 51%, we had a forensic accountant look at the company’s financial health and it was discovered that the company had been running in the red for its’ entire existence under the management of Tony. While Tony is passionate about wargaming and the wargaming community, it was clear that he was completely unsuited to running this business. It was evident that for Wargames Factory to have any chance of financial success it would need to have a new business model.
The months following my acquisition of majority stock were rocky and tumultuous as I attempted to form some sort of working relationship with Tony Reidy. Many months were spent trying to get Tony to release access to the web store, company records and company bank accounts so that I could start to get a picture of what we were dealing with. In addition to the constant struggle to simply gain information regarding the company I now owned 51% of, more and more vendors and individuals started coming out of the woodwork claiming that Tony Reidy/Wargames Factory owed them money and they had never been paid.
I need to make something very clear. The agreement that Tony and I signed has a clause that states that he had fully apprised me of all debts the company owed before I became majority stockholder, and that any debts not disclosed were the responsibility of Tony, not Wargames Factory. I will not go into the long list of debts to both vendors and individuals undisclosed by Tony that have come to light over the past five months, but I am going to tell you about one specific debt.
When I took over the company I decided that we would need to move our operations and shipping out of the Boston area. This decision was based on the fact that my associates are based in the western United States and it made the most sense for our new business model to relocate there. When we told Triangle that we would regrettably be moving our shipping operations elsewhere, they informed us that before we could remove the Wargames Factory merchandise from their facility I would need to pay them the $5,000 that was owed to them for back salaries for their disabled shipping employees. This came as a big surprise to me, especially when I asked for a copy of their bill and discovered that Tony Reidy had not made a payment to the employees of Triangle for almost 2 years. In light of Tony and Howard’s recent posts claiming I cheated Triangle out of their money, I find myself most dishonored by this blatant lie.
There is not enough time for me to address all of the accusations and falsehoods about the new Wargames Factory team that have spun out of control over the internet for the past months, but I feel that I needed to shed a little light on what has actually transpired behind the scenes. For everyone’s information, between the $250,000 I was initially owed by Wargames Factory and the amount of money I have put into the company over the past 5 months to keep it afloat and get it back on its’ feet, it will be a long time before I possibly see any return on my investments. I am not a villainous, foreign millionaire doing a shady hostile takeover of a poor American company to make a fast buck. I am simply a business man who is making the best I can out of the difficult situation that is in front of me.
With that out of the way I want to let you know that while I am new to the wargaming world I am dedicated to providing the highest quality and most innovative product in the market and to listening to how you, our valued customers, would like to see Wargames Factory evolve. I thank you all for your patience during what was a very rocky transition and look forward to smoother sailing ahead.
Sincerely, Wai Kee Hui
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 22:35:30
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Storm Trooper with Maglight
Milwaukee, WI
|
I just want to see them release the Greatcoat Command/ HWS sprue. Is that too much to ask?
|
18th Gamtilla Secundus Dragoon Guards Regiment: “The Lord Governor’s Own” |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 22:51:10
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Lord of the Fleet
|
Doctor Optimal wrote:I just want to see them release the Greatcoat Command/ HWS sprue. Is that too much to ask? 
With how the letter above went? It sure is when you cant pay off depts!  Pray that mantic wont make "not cadians"
BTW in the general discussions I posted something from TMP about their products, they still have problems with them wit the recent sets
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 23:33:46
Subject: Re:Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Fresh-Faced New User
|
Kroothawk wrote:Damn, this thread was easier to find with google than with Dakka's search function. Anyway:
The current owner Wai Kee Hu of Wargames Factory finally made a statement answering to the accusations by Tony Reidy:
Tony Reidy strikes back again in a comment later on Table Top Gaming News. This seems like an inexhaustable source of back and forth anger.. like Dynasty.
Out of curiousity has anyone had any experience with the new management since the ownership change? How have they been customer service wise? Have things gotten better, worse or stayed the same.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 23:38:36
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Ancient Chaos Terminator
|
Sounds like one of the worst aspects of this is that what should have been the altruistic attempt to employ the handicapped ended up in their not getting paid. If true it's another "how low can you go" moment in business.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/29 23:39:13
"I hate movies where the men wear shorter skirts than the women." -- Mystery Science Theater 3000
"Elements of the past and the future combining to create something not quite as good as either." -- The Mighty Boosh
Check out Cinematic Titanic, the new movie riffing project from Joel Hodgson and the original cast of MST3K.
See my latest eBay auctions at this link.
"We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. You have our gratitude!" - Kentucky Fried Movie |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 00:10:23
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I'm guessing the thread I started on this got deleted so that everything would be in this older thread (I was worried about threadomancy). Basically, all I posted was the same press release and a comment about how the truth was probably somewhere in the middle, but I deffinately side with the new owners if only becuase they just laid out their side of it and didn't resort to name-calling or personal attacks. I'll side with "look, this is what happened..." over "those jerks are jerks and jerkily swindled my company from me, the jerks!" anyday of the week.
Good to know that Tony Reid is starting a new plastics company, more plastic is good plastic. Hopefully it works out better for everyone involved and both companies thrive and release many, many cool models for me to blow more money on. Becuase I'll do it, oh yes I will, I'm a sucker for good models (or at the very least decent and cheap models) despite any shady backdoor politics that may or may not have occured
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/30 00:13:21
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 09:08:50
Subject: Re:Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Neffertech wrote:Tony Reidy strikes back again in a comment later on Table Top Gaming News. This seems like an inexhaustable source of back and forth anger.. like Dynasty.
Okay, here it is:
Tony Reidy wrote:Wow, the amount of misinformation and outright lies in this missive is staggering. I had hoped that after myself and the entire creative team behind Wargames Factory was “canned” as George Sivy (Wai Kee’s business manager) so elegantly put it back on January 7th, they would spend their time focusing on actually operating the company and fixing their mistakes.
Instead, it seems that the focus has been on mis-packing product, making bizarre announcements about union busting, continuing to screw up molds, and printing packaging that hasn’t been finished (from what I glean on Facebook)
I’ll be happy to present a detailed list of monies spent – including payments directly to George Sivy – and explain the nice way in which they have used a technical piece of the agreement (which actually was put in place way back in July and August) to weasel out of invoices that were presented AFTER Wai Kee took control.
I’m sorry to everyone in the wargames community that all this nonsense is so public – and it is my own fault for losing my temper back in January after being blind-sided by Lonnie Mullins’ backstabbing and subsequent ousting from the company I started. It’s clear that since they aren’t competent enough to actually operate a business, they need to divert attention to me personally as somehow the cause of all ongoing problems.
In the meantime, the original creative team has all come together and we are shortly to be launching full ranges of hard plastic miniatures under our new company – Defiance Games.
We’ll let the quality and release schedule speak for us going forward.
Thanks everyone – and I’m sorry again to have all this nonsense “out there”
All the best,
Tony
Tony Reidy
Defiance Games
http://www.defiancegames.com
(...)
Hi LaBambaMan – I just have a hard time sticking to corporate speak when I know the depths to which people are willing to stoop. Whoever wrote this – I imagine it was written by George Sivy and then Wai Kee put his name to it – it’s just so wrong and misleading.
To drag poor Howard Whitehouse into this – especially given that they owe him backpay for December and January – is just ridiculous. If you know Howard – and so many people in the wargames community do – the sillyness in attacking him is just mind-boggling.
I was happy to let this whole thing blow over and move on, and I assume the only reason it’s popping up now (nearly 3 months after all of us were kicked out) is because they need to try to deflect attention from the ongoing failures – mis-printed packaging, mis-sized figures, labeling 28mm figures as 1/48 scale?, mis-packed sets, Lonnie’s bizarre rants on TMP and Facebook, etc. I cringe to see what they’re doing to a company that was actually on its way to major success right before this all took place. It’s just sad for all of us who worked so hard to build Wargames Factory.
Anyway, enough of that. I understand where you’re coming from and apologize for the passion. The whole situation is just sad.
Thanks,
Tony
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/30 09:24:18
Subject: Wargames Factory under new management/ownership?
|
 |
[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
|
He doesn't really address any of the points raised by Wai Kee Hui though, just attacks them as 'lies' and 'silly'. Not really much of a rebuttal, is it?
|
|
|
 |
 |
|