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How did I miss this? Ah well. Better late than never.

Imperial Guard
Best - Infantry Platoon/Veteran Squad. Yes, the top prize is split between these two.
Runner up - Chimera. It is a workhorse that gets the job done.

Worst - Mogul Kamir. Just get more guys with the points.
Runner up - Tech-Priest. One wound model without any transport of his own?

Space Marines
Best - Tactical Squad.
Worst - Thunderfire Cannon.

Chaos Space Marines
Best - Obliterator. Solution for any situation.
Worst - Chaos Spawn.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Rex-Nine wrote: Not true, at my local GW they wanted to know out of all the space marine codexes who had the best marines? so they had a bunch of small games with all of the SM codexes, SM with tac squad, SW with grey hunters, BA with assault marines, and so on. All squads were at full strength and could only take free upgrades.

Firstly, this proves nothing. You're setting up a scenario that favours vanilla SMs and then act all high and mighty when they win.

Secondly, I find it hard to believe that the tac squad described would win against a maxed crusader squad, considering they get RZ...

I think they did lose that one. But the point was to show that ALL of them are really good as long you use them to their advantage. I did noticed that we did not have Grey Knights hmmm... I think they would have won hands down!


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O and I did not make the scenario, the local GW did.

Tyraninds:
Best Unit: Hive Tyrant
Between some Great Psychic powers (Paroyxsm!) and the fact he is a MC with some great stats, this guy is honestly one of the best non-hero HQ units in the game. He is expensive, sure, but he can be worth every penny of it when he tears straight through most units in CC. Plus, the Model for it looks amazing.

Runner Up: Tervigon

Worst unit: Pyrovore
Must I explain? Its horrible. Volitile is an awful rule. And its an Awful unit.
Runner Up: Rippers.

CSM:

Best Unit:
Lash Prince w/ wings (what he is only 155pts?????) Best point by point HQ in the game.

Worse:
chaos spawn but runner up is
CSM terminators (30pts base and then upgrades make them too expensive, so much more can be taken for less)

Nids:
Best:
Trygon Prime

Worst:
Warriors (3 wnd models are great until you have no invul and get instant killed by S 8 and above)

Dark Eldar:
Best:
Vect without a doubt (6 attacks with preferred enemy against everyone with a 3+ pw, a 12" range grenade that is S10 vs infantry and heals his wounds, AND a 4+ to steal intiative. Oh btw a 2+ invul save)

worst:
Mandrakes (lmao, no explanation needed)

IG:
Best:
what do you get for 3 TL Las, outflank, fast vehicle, and transport capacity with F: 12 S: 12 R: 10? You get the best tank in the game for 130pts. Vendetta

Worst:
conscripts (never will I take these guys unless I am pulling a prank or wanting to waste points)

SM
Best:
Vulcan (yea these are all twin linked )

Worst:
Sniper scouts (great on paper. bad in practice)

Orks
Best:
Gorzagh (I hate this guy)

Worst:
Bikers (they are over priced and get insant killed easily enough)

Tau
Best:
Broadsides (they hurt when you play them right)

Worst:
the rest of the army...

This thread should be in the Army List forum.

A-P wrote:
Space Marines
Best - Tactical Squad.
Worst - Thunderfire Cannon.

I understand that the SM codex doesn't really have much bad in it (outside of some special characters) but seriously? The Thunderfire Cannon is ridiculous when used correctly. Four S6 blasts? Four ignore cover blasts? It suffers from the artillery rules, and the fact that it only has one gunner, but this thing is definitely not the worst. Ever hear of Tigirius?

Tomb King wrote:

CSM terminators (30pts base and then upgrades make them too expensive, so much more can be taken for less)

I disagree because of the possibility of small (3-man) units, and those are actually the cheapest Terminators in the game.

Tomb King wrote:Nids:

Worst:
Warriors (3 wnd models are great until you have no invul and get instant killed by S 8 and above)

Those missiles should be firing at your big bugs. If they're not... you win? I can't stand how people bad mouth the Warriors now. If you look at the stats alone, then yes it's not great, but actually put an army on the table that has them (and still has other things like Hive Guard, Tervs, etc.) and see how many missiles get shot into them.

Tau
Worst:
the rest of the army...

Except for Battlesuits and Pathfinders.

Warriors are great of they have a prime. Use a screen of termagaunts to make sure they have cover saves when charging closer to the enemy, the prime can absorb a lot of ID hits. (not to mention he makes the unit deadly as hell when it gets into range). Won't do you much good against battle cannon spam, but they handle missiles fine.