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He is in the state of Texas. Sitting on his lawn taking pot shots at anyone who comes close to the sacred green grass of home, letting slip the dogs of war

purplefood wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Do we actually know he's in America? He might be in hiding in southern Mexico.... Planning on making a dash across the Ocean to Senegal....

In an CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT?

I think we can assume thats the only safe way to cross the Ocean when you have the Feds on your tail.... Who could imagine using a Rhino or a chimera in such situation?

SilverMK2 wrote:He is in the state of Texas. Sitting on his lawn taking pot shots at anyone who comes close to the sacred green grass of home, letting slip the dogs of war

I didn't know Texas had grass...
I always thought it was just a pretty big desert with some cities...

Just an update on what i'm listening to... (its very important you know these things )

Johnny Cash. I bet he had a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT or two..

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

FITZZ wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

Well, i never new that... Did Matt Ward write that into its rules?

rodgers37 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

Well, i never new that... Did Matt Ward write that into its rules?

He was about to but Boromir nailed him with a Hobbit...

... And yes,Frazz is in Texas,which does have grass BTW...
So,it's about 4:35 PM in FrazzLand.

purplefood wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

Well, i never new that... Did Matt Ward write that into its rules?

He was about to but Boromir nailed him with a Hobbit...

He could've avoided that if he had a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT

Back on the topic of our good friend Dash, didn't he once beat Frodo in a game of 40k, even though Frodo quite clearly bent the rules by using his 'magic ring' and moving the figures around without Dash seeing....


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FITZZ wrote:... And yes,Frazz is in Texas,which does have grass BTW...
So,it's about 4:35 PM in FrazzLand.

I want to move to America..... (Well, its probably a logical step in my plan to work for a Film Company, since UK doesn't have any competent ones Well it kind of does, but there not wonderful)


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Another update....
Moving onto Bon Jovi now....

Should probably think about sleeping at some point, otherwise i have no chance of getting up in time for 9:00 lecture in the morning

rodgers37 wrote:Back on the topic of our good friend Dash, didn't he once beat Frodo in a game of 40k, even though Frodo quite clearly bent the rules by using his 'magic ring' and moving the figures around without Dash seeing....


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FITZZ wrote:... And yes,Frazz is in Texas,which does have grass BTW...
So,it's about 4:35 PM in FrazzLand.

I want to move to America..... (Well, its probably a logical step in my plan to work for a Film Company, since UK doesn't have any competent ones Well it kind of does, but there not wonderful)


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Another update....
Moving onto Bon Jovi now....

Should probably think about sleeping at some point, otherwise i have no chance of getting up in time for 9:00 lecture in the morning

If you put part of your anatomy in a ring then you become invisible? Is this why I never see any gay couples anywhere?

/obligatory borderline PG-13 comment

Avatar 720 wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:Back on the topic of our good friend Dash, didn't he once beat Frodo in a game of 40k, even though Frodo quite clearly bent the rules by using his 'magic ring' and moving the figures around without Dash seeing....


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FITZZ wrote:... And yes,Frazz is in Texas,which does have grass BTW...
So,it's about 4:35 PM in FrazzLand.

I want to move to America..... (Well, its probably a logical step in my plan to work for a Film Company, since UK doesn't have any competent ones Well it kind of does, but there not wonderful)


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Another update....
Moving onto Bon Jovi now....

Should probably think about sleeping at some point, otherwise i have no chance of getting up in time for 9:00 lecture in the morning

If you put part of your anatomy in a ring then you become invisible? Is this why I never see any gay couples anywhere?

/obligatory borderline PG-13 comment

Or it could be Stockport doesn't allow such actions?

Avatar 720 wrote:

purplefood wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

Well, i never new that... Did Matt Ward write that into its rules?

He was about to but Boromir nailed him with a Hobbit...

He could've avoided that if he had a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT

Fortunatly Boromir had contacted FW earlier and asked them to delay the rlease of the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT which was sadly impossible (because nothing can stop the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT) so using macguyver ingenuity and some string he managed to contruct a passable trebuchet capable of firing a full grown, doom-ring bearing hobbit into the roof of GWHQ with enough velocity to kill Matt Ward. nfortunately Matt Ward was resurected by forces unknown however he forgot all about the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT until a few days later when one ran over him, his house, and everyone he had ever known.

purplefood wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

purplefood wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

rodgers37 wrote:P.S
He could also be planning on stopping at St Lucia for a sandwich....

No need to stop for a sandwich in your CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! as each CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! comes complete with it's own built in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!! snack bar.

Well, i never new that... Did Matt Ward write that into its rules?

He was about to but Boromir nailed him with a Hobbit...

He could've avoided that if he had a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT

Fortunatly Boromir had contacted FW earlier and asked them to delay the rlease of the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT which was sadly impossible (because nothing can stop the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT) so using macguyver ingenuity and some string he managed to contruct a passable trebuchet capable of firing a full grown, doom-ring bearing hobbit into the roof of GWHQ with enough velocity to kill Matt Ward. nfortunately Matt Ward was resurected by forces unknown however he forgot all about the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT until a few days later when one ran over him, his house, and everyone he had ever known.

...Penguin.

Win.


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I think i've posted about 150 times in 2 days......

Did you make that, or did it already exist? I hope it already existed, if it didn't well done



I think i should change the bit in my Dakka code saying my posts are mostly tactical....

Ho hum another sensationalist thread jumping on badly researched theology:

In fact, virtually half the New Testament was written by impostors taking on the names of apostles like Paul. At least according to Bart D. Ehrman, a renowned biblical scholar, who makes the charges in his new book “Forged.”
“There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good,” says Ehrman, an expert on ancient biblical manuscripts.In “Forged,” Ehrman claims that:
* At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries.
* The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate.
* Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds.

Paul may indeed have dictated some of his works, especially as he got older however it must be remembered that the Epistles are letters to individuals and groups, not works for publication so a clear writing style may well not be evident they were not written as scripture. It is understood that those who wrote scripture did not know they were doing so at the time, with the exception of the Pentateuch. All the books except that given to Moses were known to be ordinary works, probably the pick of many that were seen at the time to be touched by God and marked for posterity.
For example some of the Epistles note to other letters sent by Paul that did not survive for posterity.
Secondly the contradictions can be explained if you realise that the epistles were written to individuals groups with individual needs and are in accordance with the times. The times of s scripture should always be measured by the Wisdom of interpretation via the Holy Spirit who can see into a message for an ancient culture so seperate from our own and translate that into modern parlance.


I will stick to the above point in bold for now, this one at least needs knocking on the head.

The Gospels writers Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were cloe, either eye witnesses or interviewers of eye witnesses.

Matthew was the diciple of the same name, he was a tax collector, i.e at the very least a numerate official. I find it highly implausible that he would be illiterate. As a further clue is is also known as Levi, as Levi means priests and the priests were taught to read and write I see little plausible evidence to suggest that Matthew was illiterate.

Mark was a young follower of Jesus who witnesses some of the events at the time of the Passion. We dont know anything else about him, so noone can tell anything more. However he wrote a book, or dictated one to be written in his name. The Gospel of Mark was the first one recorded, and was in circulation within thirty years of Jesus death and resurrection, so it is unfair to claim Mark had nothing to do with it, and against what little evidence we have to suggest he was illiterate.

Luke was a Greek doctor, who accompanied Paul and also wrote the book of Acts. uilliterate greek personal doctor, I dont think so. Paul was an important man, who studied relgious law under Gamaliel a famous teacher and was a Roman citizemn of no small influence, he also was afflicted by an undisclosed illness. Would he hire a peronal doctor who was illiterate? I dont think so.

John was 'unlettered' this could mean that he simply had no education in rhetorial arts, something that marked a good education in those days. Understanding the context of the commentary in acts 4 when John is confirmed to be an uneducated man you must understand that he amazed those who were educated men irregardless. So while Peter and John may be been common folk with low educational standards this was obviously not where they ended up.
So was John who wrote the Gospel the uneducated fisherman Jesus first recruited or the confident young religious leader afterwards who had Jesus Christ as his personal trainer for three years. Could John have still been illiterate, maybe, but he was influential enough to have been able to dictate note if he was. Please remember John and Peter were people who amazed people with what they said and did, even the religious leaders. I could John chapter 1 clearly fitting the character of the man.
On this note uneducated by classical standards doesnt necessarily mean a complete ignorant savage, education in the ancient world was about rhetoric, classic literature, poetry, religion, debate and mathematics. Actual basic literacy doesn't come into it, someone came out of a real school back then, not just knowing how to write but how to debate, literacy of itself was far more common than in later years because of the prevelant secular scribe class the lack of a monastic class and the generally high standard of living in the Roman empire. Many medieval kings might not know how to write, but people in the ancient middle east were somewhat more cultured, even amongst the working class. In Peter and John were of 'peasant stock' it pays to note what type of peasant. Peter for example abandoned his boats to his servants when he left them to join Jesus, also after the crucifixion Peter needed to lie low and returned Galilee briefly to go back to fishing. John was with him because he was part of the same extended family. Where did Peter suddenly get a boat from? Fishing boats were and are important trade tools, yes they were working class but they were businessmen, with surviving businesses they could come back to. I see no reason to even begin to claim that Peter and John found literacy beyond them, either directly or indirectly to ther extent that what they wrote mst have been authored by someone else beyond their own control.

rodgers37 wrote:Did you make that, or did it already exist? I hope it already existed, if it didn't well done

*bows*

I made it about five minutes ago. Just in honour of the newest dakka meme.

Orlanth, your not trying to get this thread back on topic are you?

....Okay

I stop to write a long post on topic and come back to find the thread has jumped two whole pages, just about all on an Forgeworld APC.

So I heck back to see the culprit...............................Frazzie.

I should have guessed.

Orlanth wrote:....Okay

I stop to write a long post on topic and come back to find the thread has jumped two whole pages, just about all on an Forgeworld APC.

So I heck back to see the culprit...............................Frazzie.

I should have guessed.

Well at least its a well written post, and hopefully some others will read it.....

But you did miss the one key component....

CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!! And/Or Matt Ward

Orlanth wrote:....Okay

I stop to write a long post on topic and come back to find the thread has jumped two whole pages, just about all on an Forgeworld APC.

So I heck back to see the culprit...............................Frazzie.

I should have guessed.

it's because of an old American proverb: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bull...stuff."

Ehrman doesn’t confine his critique to Paul’s letters. He challenges the authenticity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John. He says that none were written by Jesus' disciplies, citing two reasons.

He says none of the earliest gospels revealed the names of its authors, and that their current names were later added by scribes.

We already knew this ... nothing new there..

Theological feuding didn't start until after most of the documents in the NT have been dated. We'd got copies from the 2nd century before any major feuding began because the community was too small to start slapping each other over issues.

a bit hard seeing as the 'new testament' wasn't officially decided on until later.

So in short you're all going to hell?
Lets bring the burgers to cook!

But my CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT won't fit into my LITKO SPACE CORRIDORS AND INDUSTRIAL TOWERS because my T-rex ate too many coconuts and now he's just trying to BLAME THE VICTIM.

Frazzled wrote: I'm also sure no Dakka posters would stoop to take advantage to fire off cheap shots.

Can we hold you to that for the remainder of the thread?

This is why I consider myself Agnostic instead of Catholic.

That, along with the fact that I've known too many Catholics in High School (no offense to any present) who just rubbed me the wrong way. None of them follow their religion.

LordofHats wrote:
Theological feuding didn't start until after most of the documents in the NT have been dated. We'd got copies from the 2nd century before any major feuding began because the community was too small to start slapping each other over issues.

See, we don't have copies of the NT, we have pieces of copies of some of the books that are in the NT. There are no complete copies of any single book, let alone the entire NT, dating before right around the First Council at Nicea.


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Frazzled wrote:Its like the New Testament and the Old Testament are different somehow...

One is less contradictory than the other?

Though I disagree with the initial premise that the OT is more contradictory than the NT. The OT is a narrative, the NT is not.

That said, considering the Bible as something which can be guilty of contradiction is only important if you're arguing for textual inerrance.

dogma, Slarg and Phototoxin, the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSUALT TRANSPORT followers are not please. This thread isn't really about the Bible, its about Matt Ward, CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT, Boromir, Hobbits, other LOTR related issues and to a lesser extent Frazzleds location.

rodgers37 wrote:Where has Frazzled gone, he can't have anything better to do at this time can he?

What time is it in America?

Sorry I was busy getting my ass kicked in EPIC and driving back home in my CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT. Luckily I called Matt Ward and YES I CAN IN FACT DEEPSTRIKE my CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT! He even gave me a draft of the new 6xth Edition New Testament. Wow, in this addition the Apostle Timothy is a hand to hand beast. Plus if you take him as a special character all your troops can arrive via deepstrik in CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORTs!