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Marthike wrote:How about we actully find out that thr tyranids were running away from an even greater threat and out comes the doomwalkers

some beast like army with only MC as troops LOL

Wait.. so you want to retcon the Tyranid's fluff and add in that they were running away from some race that in-game can only run a type of army that Tyranid's can already run?

I think my idea for a break of section of man kind is better. Maybe it could have a unit for anti swarm?

TrollPie wrote:

Anvildude wrote:That would actually be fun. It's complete rubbish in longer range shooting, and about the only way you'd kill anything in melee is if you outnumbered them 3 to 1 for Geq, or 10 to 1 for Meq, but damned if they wouldn't burn everything to the ground before you got there.
And I actually think I might make up a basic Fandex for that Synergy/Defense race. Could be fun. Could be Squats! Dwarves are known for their Defense, right? And working together?

Thanks, I'd love to see that! Maybe some kind of anti-tank rule for troops, e.g...
"Fire in the Hole!"
The troops clamber over the tank, pouring flame through windows and cracks in the armour, incinerating the poor bastards inside.
In combat with enemy vehicles, a Hatchling, Drake or <insert flame/dragon based name here>squad can foregoe normal melee attacks, and instead automatically inflict d3 glancing hits as crewmen are burned to a crisp, leaving guns without gunners, wheels without drivers and the crew choking and coughing as they attempt to take cover from the onslaught.
Against transports, maybe that rule could also allow them to shoot the men inside-a giant middle finger to mech armies.

I love the idea, it would be like a cross between WHF Lizardmen and WH40K Kroot into a retro-futuristic tribal lizard army, closly resembling dragons e.g. the FREAKING SPIT FLAMES !!! i would deffinetly like to see more about this Draco-Tribal army as they have so much potential

how would they travel through space?


would they have a indentured race of smaller lizards(skinks?) that can build space going vessels while the larger lizards are a warrior class?

They'd fly around in the bellies of giant Space Dragons. Or they'd have Psycher Dragons that breathe Warp Fire, that can teleport them. Or the Queens are tiny, and stow away on the ships of other races, until they make planetfall- then they get out and start breeding.

Ad Mech is a horrible idea for a new race... First of all, it wouldn't be a new race, it would be a redundant mock-up of yet another Imperial force. Second, it's not a military force, it's just a force of religious priesthood, manufacturing weapons and searching for their STCs.

Ad Mech is to the Imperium what the Earth Caste is to the Tau. Should the Tau Earth Caste get its own Codex? No, that's ridiculous? Like Earth Caste, Ad Mech is a behind-the-scenes entity, and it should stay that way.

A new race might be welcome if GW manages to pull off a fresh aesthetic and unique appeal... Which is hard to imagine since the current variety of armies each have enough versatility that they cover most of the bases. Plus GW probably couldn't handle supporting another race. They can only claim so much shelf space.

I think equal support for all armies would be much better than a new race.

Shrike325 wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the Tau are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy. they exist purely to appeal to mecha and anime fans.

Chaos Space Marines are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy (eye of terror). They exist purely to appeal to SM fans that want spikes.

i'm a bit late, but i read somewhere (cant remember) that Chaos space marines and renegade guard can be found as far out as the Ultima segmentum. Just putting it out there.

Archonate wrote:Ad Mech is a horrible idea for a new race... First of all, it wouldn't be a new race, it would be a redundant mock-up of yet another Imperial force. Second, it's not a military force, it's just a force of religious priesthood, manufacturing weapons and searching for their STCs.

Ad Mech is to the Imperium what the Earth Caste is to the Tau. Should the Tau Earth Caste get its own Codex? No, that's ridiculous? Like Earth Caste, Ad Mech is a behind-the-scenes entity, and it should stay that way.

A new race might be welcome if GW manages to pull off a fresh aesthetic and unique appeal... Which is hard to imagine since the current variety of armies each have enough versatility that they cover most of the bases. Plus GW probably couldn't handle supporting another race. They can only claim so much shelf space.

I think equal support for all armies would be much better than a new race.

The Ad Mech are seperate from the Imperium they ally with them but for the most part have completely different objectives. They also have their own armies of servitors alone plus the various skitarii assigned to each Magos. They are much larger then the tau earth caste and have their own armies the only similarity is they make weapons. I think Ad Mech would be a great addition as they would have a completely different playstyle and personality compared to any other race. That last sentence however is entirely true it would be better to make the current codex's fair, but if they were to add one it should be Ad Mech

Archonate wrote:Ad Mech is a horrible idea for a new race... First of all, it wouldn't be a new race, it would be a redundant mock-up of yet another Imperial force. Second, it's not a military force, it's just a force of religious priesthood, manufacturing weapons and searching for their STCs.

Ad Mech is to the Imperium what the Earth Caste is to the Tau. Should the Tau Earth Caste get its own Codex? No, that's ridiculous? Like Earth Caste, Ad Mech is a behind-the-scenes entity, and it should stay that way.

A new race might be welcome if GW manages to pull off a fresh aesthetic and unique appeal... Which is hard to imagine since the current variety of armies each have enough versatility that they cover most of the bases. Plus GW probably couldn't handle supporting another race. They can only claim so much shelf space.

I think equal support for all armies would be much better than a new race.

you obviously haven't read any mechanicus related fluff.


Look up Titan legions.

they arn't just Titans, but also legions of Skittarii warriors(augmented humans, often genehanced and drugged up on powerful stimulants)

then there are the Pratorians. Massive gene enhanced monstrocities that carry heavy weapons to pummel the enemy into dust.



the Mechanicus is on a constant crusade to find STCs. they do this alone, unsupported by Imperial Forces. they even have their own Navy.

they also form the primary defense force of any Forge World(which are fairly common and spread throughout the Imperium)

Seperate Chaos marines! Allow multiple IG armies like space marines since there are so many IG variants like SM.

Tomb King wrote:Seperate Chaos marines! Allow multiple IG armies like space marines since there are so many IG variants like SM.

What? I think I know what you're saying, but some grammar would be nice.

they just need to put doctrines back in.


they were pretty cool, I lost interest in IG when they removed those.

I also miss my old chapter traits

rogue traders ?

Grey Templar wrote:

Archonate wrote:Ad Mech is a horrible idea for a new race... First of all, it wouldn't be a new race, it would be a redundant mock-up of yet another Imperial force. Second, it's not a military force, it's just a force of religious priesthood, manufacturing weapons and searching for their STCs.

Ad Mech is to the Imperium what the Earth Caste is to the Tau. Should the Tau Earth Caste get its own Codex? No, that's ridiculous? Like Earth Caste, Ad Mech is a behind-the-scenes entity, and it should stay that way.

A new race might be welcome if GW manages to pull off a fresh aesthetic and unique appeal... Which is hard to imagine since the current variety of armies each have enough versatility that they cover most of the bases. Plus GW probably couldn't handle supporting another race. They can only claim so much shelf space.

I think equal support for all armies would be much better than a new race.

you obviously haven't read any mechanicus related fluff.

Look up Titan legions.

they arn't just Titans, but also legions of Skittarii warriors(augmented humans, often genehanced and drugged up on powerful stimulants)

then there are the Pratorians. Massive gene enhanced monstrocities that carry heavy weapons to pummel the enemy into dust.

the Mechanicus is on a constant crusade to find STCs. they do this alone, unsupported by Imperial Forces. they even have their own Navy.

they also form the primary defense force of any Forge World(which are fairly common and spread throughout the Imperium)

Agreed - plus the other motivation for a new army is will it produce excellent and cool models - with the sheer variety of possibilites of the cybernetic and bio enhacements for the Mechancus thats a def yes - whilst still being different from the arcance tech of the Dark Eldar.

The most recent codex describes a very small and highly specalised support arm of the Inqusiton Imperium.........rather than an immense organisation that controls hundreds of worlds and warships, untold numbers of varied fighting soldiers, unique war machines such as the Knights (now there is a new large scale plastic model that needs making) and of course the God Machines - the Titans. I can't see an logical argument against?

a super adv race form a def rent universe and but not like elder no psychic but are heavy weapons and huge like 2x the size of a space marine and I there are over 4 codecs for the da iom

Sorry but that sounds awful. Its basically ogres from another universe. you have no reason for them to be there and no reason for them to be with the IoM. IMO its also to doctor whoish.

On the idea of parralle universe, why don't an super advanced race, travel across universe to reach our galaxy.

They can have a fully mech force, everyone is inside a either small robot or huge walker.

A fully mech force will be cool.

troops

armour 7 front 6 sides 5 back

elite

armour 9 front 7 side and back

walkers (tanks)

armour 12 front 11 side and back

Heavy walkers

armour 14 front 12 side and back

Yay for huge walkers

Marthike wrote:On the idea of parralle universe, why don't an super advanced race, travel across universe to reach our galaxy.

They can have a fully mech force, everyone is inside a either small robot or huge walker.

A fully mech force will be cool.

troops

armour 7 front 6 sides 5 back

elite

armour 9 front 7 side and back

walkers (tanks)

armour 12 front 11 side and back

Heavy walkers

armour 14 front 12 side and back

Yay for huge walkers

Wait so a lascannon can autopenetrate all your elites and troops

I'm not sure if you know this, but a Lascannon can basically autopen most armie's Elites and Troops.

The bigger problem with that is that, unless you have a specific rule (like, say, Comfortably Mechanized) that allowed Troop Vehicles to claim objectives, you'd be unable to do that.

how about a race of rabid space pandas? they have guns made of bamboo, and you have to roll for them falling asleep halfway through the battle.

Oh, and they can breathe fire ... just because.

I was like this :(

But then i read about super awesome space pandas!

An idea for an AdMech army book.. Make the 40k parallel to the Ogre Kingdoms... Super small numbers available, hard hitting super painful monstrous infantry.

The Praetorians would be modeled as having Thunderfirecannon tracks for "legs", and mounted on the large torso would be whatever huge gun you bought with points (I would probably go with easy to justify blast weapons).

I would also give them a series of If/Then rules, so that you could effectively run a unique DarkMechanicus army from the same book, and not add prodigious amounts of paper to the codex.

Anvildude wrote:I'm not sure if you know this, but a Lascannon can basically autopen most armie's Elites and Troops.

The bigger problem with that is that, unless you have a specific rule (like, say, Comfortably Mechanized) that allowed Troop Vehicles to claim objectives, you'd be unable to do that.

Yes they auto kill infantry, but they'd have to wound first. Againts a vehicle with AV9 all they have to do is hit it and see what they do.

Yes but remember a force will only have a handful of lascannons in it so its not much of a problem.

haloreach4ever wrote:Yes but remember a force will only have a handful of lascannons in it so its not much of a problem.

Imperial Guard.

Dark Eldar.

This army will be defeated just at the sound of their name.

Just thinking, tau pulse rifles could on a lucky role pen on armour 9.

haloreach4ever wrote:Just thinking, tau pulse rifles could on a lucky role pen on armour 9.

bolters could pen it.


Pulse Rifles would glance on 4s.

And another thing, the exploded result could set of a chain reaction for the entire squad. one lucky lasgun could bring down 10 of these guys!

If everyone is so insistent on a new army, I would only through my hat in for AdMech. Because they already have tons of canon out there and the models would be super cool. But they would also all be Finecost. So think about that too.

haloreach4ever wrote:I was like this :(

But then i read about super awesome space pandas!

Pandas make everyone happy.