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Should GW ever introduce a new race into 40k? Would they be able to?
Personaly, I would love to see an entire new race introduced to 40k, but i'm not sure what type of army.

What do you think?

How about mutant wolves who come from a planet that got swallowed by a black hole?

Eventually I'm sure they will put a new race into 40K. However, they'll probably need to kill a race off as most of the major archtypes are taken.

Heavy shooting: Tau/Guard
Heavy melee: Orks/Nids/SM
All deepstriking: Daemons/SM
Jack of all trades: SM
Glass cannon: DE
Finesse army: Eldar
Unstoppable(ish) army: Necrons
Huge horde: Guard/Orks/Nids
Mechanized army: Everything but Necrons/Nids/Daemons
Psykers: GK and Eldar

There's really nothing left to put in.

New races are added all the time.

Armies, however, are not.

If they were to kill off an army, I would say (Sorry to the people who do play it) Witch Hunters, or at leased amalgamate them into one big inquision book.

I have seen a few hint, such as taking a Ordo Hereticus inquisitor in the Grey Knights book, that they may phase them out, but this is only my own speculation.

Something that would be interesting would be a real heavy Synergyistic army. Like how the Eldar tend to be Mobility/Synergy, with their Farseers, only without the mobility. That, or a defensive army- they could even be combined.

So you'd have an army where all the units (or most of them) directly affect their own other units, and are optimized for 'holding the line' and just not dying, though they'd be fair rubbish at actually hurting the enemy as well. Maybe some sort of tribal Lizardfolk list, with a Chanting HQ that gives a KFF-style radius defensive effect, squads could take defensive grenades and have sergeants with Toughness boosting banners, Monstrous Creature transports or Heavy Support with high Toughness, lots of wounds and a low armour save, but very low strength (like around 3 or so, so even with MC AP, they're not incredibly deadly), trap layer Elites that make an area around them count as Dangerous or Difficult terrain.

They wouldn't be the army to try and table with, but they'd be hella tough to get off objectives, and wouldn't die very easily. I think there could be room for that sort of army in the game balance.

if they were ever to add a new army, it would be the Adeptus Mechanicus.


they are one faction which actually makes sense to be there,

they have a massive army,

and they would be different from all the others.



they actually deserve a codex more then the Tau do.

the Tau are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy. they exist purely to appeal to mecha and anime fans.


the Ad Mech is everywhere and fights in almost every major campaign.

Grey Templar wrote:the Tau are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy. they exist purely to appeal to mecha and anime fans.

Chaos Space Marines are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy (eye of terror). They exist purely to appeal to SM fans that want spikes.

No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

I agree with both the Heavy Defenceive idea, sort of what I was thinking of, and the Adeptus Mechanicus.
I would probably play either if they were made.

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

In the never-changing universe of the 41st millennium, everyone is stuck everywhere. Keep the Tau hate to yourself, please.

There isn't anything wrong with the Tau, what he's saying is that the Mechanicus is much larger and therefore deserves representation on the field of conflict.

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

And there is the Maelstrom as well if nothing else. There are other places with 'access' to the Warp, so no, the CSMs are not stuck in the EoT

Soooo the imperium keeps their tanks running by praying at them. Kinda like owning a Hyundai... "Please don't break! Pretty please!?"

The Earth Caste Tau take their Hammerheads on joy rides down Route'La Shas'66 with all the imperiums girlfriends, because of all the free time their engineering degree job affords them.

They're working on that "warp drive" thing, but they just don't have the requisite "old man welded to toilet" to make it happen.

Also, they are too busy rollin' with the IG's girlfriends while the IG are deployed out in some god awful sector of space.

Also, they are too busy trying to develop Str11 Railguns that will turn Landraiders inside out AND backwards, instead of just inside out.

Also, Crisis Suits have hot tubs in them. In which, the Shas'Ui are partying with your Imperium girlfriends right now. With lots of space blow.

For the Greater Keg Party!

I'm so glad all the GW hate threads are dying out so we can go back to turning every thread into Tau hate. I love you Dakka.

Obvious Troll is obvious

If I was trolling, I would be trying to make you mad.

I was joking. Trying to make you laugh.

And you failed miserably at it.

Nerivant wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

In the never-changing universe of the 41st millennium, everyone is stuck everywhere. Keep the Tau hate to yourself, please.

He's half right. The Tau are indeed stuck off in a corner where they can't affect anything, even if they had the manpower, which they don't. But Chaos Marines are even more stuck, inhabiting a cosmic whirlpool with a single exit, which happens to be the single most heavily fortified location outside of Terra, even if it holds only the smallest fraction of the Imperial Military, though said fraction still dwarfs the entire ranks of the traitor legions a hundredfold.

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

In the never-changing universe of the 41st millennium, everyone is stuck everywhere. Keep the Tau hate to yourself, please.

He's half right. The Tau are indeed stuck off in a corner where they can't affect anything, even if they had the manpower, which they don't. But Chaos Marines are even more stuck, inhabiting a cosmic whirlpool with a single exit, which happens to be the single most heavily fortified location outside of Terra, even if it holds only the smallest fraction of the Imperial Military, though said fraction still dwarfs the entire ranks of the traitor legions a hundredfold.

QFT.

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

In the never-changing universe of the 41st millennium, everyone is stuck everywhere. Keep the Tau hate to yourself, please.

He's half right. The Tau are indeed stuck off in a corner where they can't affect anything, even if they had the manpower, which they don't. But Chaos Marines are even more stuck, inhabiting a cosmic whirlpool with a single exit, which happens to be the single most heavily fortified location outside of Terra, even if it holds only the smallest fraction of the Imperial Military, though said fraction still dwarfs the entire ranks of the traitor legions a hundredfold.

The Eye of Terror has one stable exit. You can still exit it anywhere else, but where you will end up is completely random.

I disagree with removing Tau, they may be small but they still outnumber the space marines thousands to one, yet they get half of all codicexeses. What I would lurrrrv would be an army of geneticly engineered clones that has a ridiculous model count-about 3 points for a basic troop- and specialises entirely in flame weaponry. Something like this for a basic troop:

Hatchling squad-60pts

ws..bs..s..t..w..i..a..ld..sv
.1...1...2..2..1.2..1..5..6+
Drake
ws..bs..s..t..w..i..a..ld..sv
.2...2...3..3..1.3..1..8..6+

Composition: 20 Hatchlings

Wargear:
Flamey thing:
Range:....Str..AP..Type
template...3...6..Assault 1

Options:
May be accompanied by:
Drake-5pts
Up to 30 additional hatchlings-3pts

I'm not good with making up rules (or fluff), so sorry if it's ridiculously overpowered or stupid, but take THAT blanket 4+ save!

Special rules:
Stubborn (drake only)
Cloning: Hatchlings have highly unstable genes that divide randomly, often causing the entire creature to split in two in highly stressful situations, including the heat of battle. At the end of each round, role a d6 for every 5 hatchlings in the squad. For every 6 rolled you may add an additional hatchling to the squad.

Just an idea for what I think could be a truly unique race and statline. I'm not good with making up rules (or fluff), so sorry if it's ridiculously overpowered or stupid, but take THAT blanket 4+ save!

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Nerivant wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:No,


CSMs have Warp Drives.



the Alpha Legion is also at large throughout the galaxy.


the Tau are well and truly stuck there.

In the never-changing universe of the 41st millennium, everyone is stuck everywhere. Keep the Tau hate to yourself, please.

He's half right. The Tau are indeed stuck off in a corner where they can't affect anything, even if they had the manpower, which they don't. But Chaos Marines are even more stuck, inhabiting a cosmic whirlpool with a single exit, which happens to be the single most heavily fortified location outside of Terra, even if it holds only the smallest fraction of the Imperial Military, though said fraction still dwarfs the entire ranks of the traitor legions a hundredfold.

Really?
Then explain this please?

That would actually be fun. It's complete rubbish in longer range shooting, and about the only way you'd kill anything in melee is if you outnumbered them 3 to 1 for Geq, or 10 to 1 for Meq, but damned if they wouldn't burn everything to the ground before you got there.

Add Move Through Cover, and a special rule saying they aren't affected by their own Flame templates (and therefore can fire over each other in ranks) and you're golden.

HQ: Drakkon- 20 pts

bs..ws..s..t..w..i..a..ld..sv
.1...3...3..3..2..3..2..8..5+

Str 5 AP 5 Assault 1 Template


Heavy Support: Fyrewyrm- 40 points

bs..ws..s..t..w..i..a..ld..sv
.1...1...2..4..2..2..1..5..6+

Str 6 AP 4 Heavy 1 Special Template (works like a Supa Skorcha, thin end of Template must be anywhere within 12" of the 'gun')



I'd play that. It'd be incredibly fun, though horribly weak against Mechanized, unless you had some sort of Melta-style Elite.



And I actually think I might make up a basic Fandex for that Synergy/Defense race. Could be fun. Could be Squats! Dwarves are known for their Defense, right? And working together?

Anvildude wrote:That would actually be fun. It's complete rubbish in longer range shooting, and about the only way you'd kill anything in melee is if you outnumbered them 3 to 1 for Geq, or 10 to 1 for Meq, but damned if they wouldn't burn everything to the ground before you got there.
And I actually think I might make up a basic Fandex for that Synergy/Defense race. Could be fun. Could be Squats! Dwarves are known for their Defense, right? And working together?

Thanks, I'd love to see that! Maybe some kind of anti-tank rule for troops, e.g...
"Fire in the Hole!"
The troops clamber over the tank, pouring flame through windows and cracks in the armour, incinerating the poor bastards inside.
In combat with enemy vehicles, a Hatchling, Drake or <insert flame/dragon based name here>squad can foregoe normal melee attacks, and instead automatically inflict d3 glancing hits as crewmen are burned to a crisp, leaving guns without gunners, wheels without drivers and the crew choking and coughing as they attempt to take cover from the onslaught.
Against transports, maybe that rule could also allow them to shoot the men inside-a giant middle finger to mech armies.

GW wouldn't axe an army; they've made that pretty clear since the whole Squat debacle. Adeptus Mechanicus could fulfill a unique role in having lots of walkers, and lots of low toughness, high armor save troops with lasguns or whatever.

Grey Templar wrote:
the Tau are basically stuck in that one section of the galaxy. they exist purely to appeal to mecha and anime fans.

I still don't see how an army of bald, bluish goat-legged humanoids with slits for noses can please the Naruto crowd. Anyways...

Forces of Chaos (traitor guard, mutants and the like) and AdMech are my choices.

People, people, this is a thread about a new race idea, keep the Tau discussion/hate to yourself or make a new topic for it. Now lets all rave about how mega awesome sauce my idea is and how it will be more mega awesomesauce if Mat Ward does it so I can have my Dragon Infernofists and Dragonstrike Missiles.

TrollPie wrote:People, people, this is a thread about a new race idea, keep the Tau discussion/hate to yourself or make a new topic for it.

QFT

RaptorsTallon wrote:

TrollPie wrote:People, people, this is a thread about a new race idea, keep the Tau discussion/hate to yourself or make a new topic for it.

QFT

QFT

They could always add a new race to the tau empire.