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They should add a new race based around ELEMENTALS. Various 40k armies have there strengths around speed, strength in numbers, and even hard to kill models. Obviously for gamesworkshop to really push a new army there has to be a new style of play. What I suggest for the elementals to be effective is basically to take advantage of terrain on the board. EXAMPLES: Using water features to put up defensive walls, entangle enemies in woods(pinned), create earthquakes which could drop models in or imobilize vehicles, alter weather patterns to various effects. As far as I have known there have have always been slight benefits to certain units from terrain, but never an army that fully interacted with it.

The look of the army could be very unique, where the models are a particular humanoid base, with elemental properties(flaming body, skin of tree bark, man made of vapor)

Let me know what you guys think...
   
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That Wood be cool, but the only issue there is that the army's performance would fluxuate wildly depending on where you're playing them. Look at those last Batreps Dash did before leaving Dakka, with the almost nonexistant terrain features. There'd also be issues with players having to decide which tables they'd want to use, with the Elementalist certainly preferring the table with the most, or best terrain for their army.

I suppose you could do it if you had shifter type Elementalists, where you had a list of effects for various types of terrain that you could choose from, but no.

HOnestly, it's an interesting idea, but unless 6th edition includes some serious overhauls about terrain on the table, it's an idea better left to non Warhammer games.

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HappyRBouse wrote:They should add a new race based around ELEMENTALS. Various 40k armies have there strengths around speed, strength in numbers, and even hard to kill models. Obviously for gamesworkshop to really push a new army there has to be a new style of play. What I suggest for the elementals to be effective is basically to take advantage of terrain on the board. EXAMPLES: Using water features to put up defensive walls, entangle enemies in woods(pinned), create earthquakes which could drop models in or imobilize vehicles, alter weather patterns to various effects. As far as I have known there have have always been slight benefits to certain units from terrain, but never an army that fully interacted with it.

The look of the army could be very unique, where the models are a particular humanoid base, with elemental properties(flaming body, skin of tree bark, man made of vapor)

Let me know what you guys think...

Sounds like WHFB, Wood elves to me. This would just seem tacky in 40K, unless you used tech or something and gave it some grittiness instead of some fairy dust.
   
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The only new race that could work would be Velociraptors. They're smart, they run fast, and they are only easily countered with doorknobs.
   
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TrollPie wrote:They're already adding Demiurg.

Allegedly. I support the idea but there's nothing concrete yet, aside from the Demiurg ships that have been in BFG for years.


I've said on another thread that the new Warpath (Mantic) Dwarves-in-Space are a massive indicator that GW's own Dwarves-in-space are further down the pipeline. A large part of Mantic's sales are made from people who want a cheaper price to GW but to use in their GW games, and they have yet to release anything that couldn't be used as a proxy for WFB.

The slightly amusing thing is that loads of people might well end up buying Mantic's range, with no knowledge at all of GW's own release (if and when it comes) because of their daft new policy on keeping everything secret until just before release. People who have been hungering after a re-release of some kind of space dwarf analogue might well buy one army, it's unlikely they will spend even more money on 2 of them. If they new for certain that Demiurg were coming, they might well have waited.

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Bromsy wrote:In case any of you missed it, here was my idea for a new race.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/339581.page


I think its a awsome idea. It would be awesome to have a army composed of sentient crystals.

 
   
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Perhaps a pirate army? Borrowing stuff from multiple races for fluff reasons. That or trader guard/humans beyond the imperiums reach another race of men with different attributes or weapons. Hell make the catachans seperate from Cadians. Catachans are so much bigger and equiped with different gear but all have the same stat line....

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Tomb King wrote:Perhaps a pirate army? Borrowing stuff from multiple races for fluff reasons. That or trader guard/humans beyond the imperiums reach another race of men with different attributes or weapons. Hell make the catachans seperate from Cadians. Catachans are so much bigger and equiped with different gear but all have the same stat line....


Pirates=Dark Eldar, Other idea is awesome though something like interex
   
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Actually a race like the predators in AvP and Predator would be so badass for a new race.

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a Rogue Trader codex would be cool.


one could have Kroot and Eldar mercenaries,

Human troops equipped to a somewhat lesser standard then IG, but would have access to some interesting weaponry,

then loads of low armor value vehicles, some interesting walker varients.



it would be a chance to see some of the less well known alien races.

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Nicholas wrote:
Tomb King wrote:Perhaps a pirate army? Borrowing stuff from multiple races for fluff reasons. That or trader guard/humans beyond the imperiums reach another race of men with different attributes or weapons. Hell make the catachans seperate from Cadians. Catachans are so much bigger and equiped with different gear but all have the same stat line....


Pirates=Dark Eldar, Other idea is awesome though something like interex


I think the Dark Eldar would beg to differ - or more likely have you begging to amend

the original pirate lists back in the Book of the Astronomican were quite fun and I am sure a good fluffy and fun list coudl be made.

Still prefer Adeptus Mechanicus though - so many cool models

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Hmmm, I haven't read this whole thread, but I do agree that the current armies are good as they are, i.e. a new race would require the deletion of a current race (or combining of multiple ones).
How's about an army based on the elements? It would probably fit in better to Warhammer instead of 40k, but I still think the concept's pretty cool - like living rock monsters who fire AP 2 rocks, and beings of water that fire jets of water using templates (a new kind of flamer), then guys of pure flame who are close combat specialists (burning people), and the flyers could be wind-based creatures this is what happens when my mind is let loose

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Here's my attempt at a 40k-isation of a fantasy favourite. It is more of fandex/supplement but i think it would be quite fun.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/377861.page

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HappyRBouse wrote:They should add a new race based around ELEMENTALS. Various 40k armies have there strengths around speed, strength in numbers, and even hard to kill models. Obviously for gamesworkshop to really push a new army there has to be a new style of play. What I suggest for the elementals to be effective is basically to take advantage of terrain on the board. EXAMPLES: Using water features to put up defensive walls, entangle enemies in woods(pinned), create earthquakes which could drop models in or imobilize vehicles, alter weather patterns to various effects. As far as I have known there have have always been slight benefits to certain units from terrain, but never an army that fully interacted with it.

The look of the army could be very unique, where the models are a particular humanoid base, with elemental properties(flaming body, skin of tree bark, man made of vapor)

Let me know what you guys think...


If you cound Dark as an element, they've got one in the form of sentient gas clouds that manipulate darkness to form weapons.

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Like this.....



Already exists they are called the umber, admittedly they dont have a codex.

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I think abstract things like sentient clouds and such won't work in 40k. I also can't imagine a kit for a cloud being released and being cool at all. Leave that stuff for your RPG campaigns.

There's rumor of a new race "thought to be wiped out by the Space Marines" that worships dark crystals or whatever, so some people are thinking it could be Hrud. I don't see it happening soon though, as the rumors are super vague and from a relatively untested rumormonger.

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I would really love to see a Mechanicus army come out. Like from the books iv read they would be pretty sweet and would really cool looking. Saddly it would be in the same class as Guard, Orks and Nids for swarm. Might even cross over into mech unites as well. Still all and all would be a really fun army to play. Then again i was Squates

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Brother SRM wrote:There's rumor of a new race "thought to be wiped out by the Space Marines" that worships dark crystals or whatever, so some people are thinking it could be Hrud. I don't see it happening soon though, as the rumors are super vague and from a relatively untested rumormonger.





I know the Skaven already draw some inspiration from these guys, but the Skeksis from Dark Crystal are too John-Blanchey for 40k to ignore them.



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