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Just ordered a tube of the stuff from Heresy
Arrived within one working day, and got a lollipop with the order

Maelstrom sell the Army painter version and deliver worldwide for free
afaik they are very reputable though not used them myself
http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=tap_hob_mod_scp_001_000

not sure how much is in the Army Painter pack is just over half price at £3.59
GW is £6.15 for 20gm

I paid £13 inc postage for 100gm so by my maths that would have cost me £30.75 from GW

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Cthulu
GS is generically called Kneadatite
A quick search on googlre or ebay will throw up results that are cheaper than GW

No, "Kneadatite" is still a brand name; it's not 'generic'.

It's just "Blue-Yellow Epoxy Putty".

I only got into the hobby a few months ago and at first I was going to order from GW direct, until I found FirestormGames and noticed everything was cheaper. GW seem to really overcharge for everything, I've been buying stuff from Army Painter instead as they're much cheaper and just as good (or better), plus I'm paying 50p less per pot of paint using Vallejo which adds up over time.

No, "Kneadatite" is still a brand name; it's not 'generic'.

Well if yer gonna split hairs!!

nectarprime wrote:

DukeBadham wrote:I buy GW, because that's what I know works. And, last time I asked for PVA glue from a relative, instead of going to GW for some, I got wood glue, which might work but by the name itself, probably not.

I lost my track of thought, but basically, I will continue to occasionally buy GW glue and paints, because it's what I know is good and not too hard to get, but I ain't picky so If someone buys me some cheap stuff, I won't throw a tantrum, I'll just use it till it dies

Wood glue is that same stuff man. Draw your own conclusions through research as opposed to just taking GW's word for it.


Do you buy GS from them too?

I didn't know wood glue was the same thing, now I do, cheers for telling me, btw, no one at GW told me they were different, I made that assumption based on the fact it was called wood glue.
I have never used green stuff, and I do't plan to.

Have you seen those monsters at Ben and Jerry's, too? The markup on ice cream in the cinema is insane! And the prices they charge for Maltesers?! Lighter way to enjoy chocolate my backside!

On the other hand, GW doesn't force you to buy their glue in order to use models in their stores/tournaments. As opposed to cinemas, which can and do force you to produce a receipt from their food concessions if you're taking chocolate goodies into a movie.

Blame the free market economy. Personally, I feel the pros of capitalism outweigh the cons.

Didn't realise you HAD to buy ice cream and Malteasers at the flicks?
Never done so at our local. Maybe some of the multiplexes you go to are run by gangsters?

BTW if the market was truely free there would be no such restrictions on food purchases

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Didn't realise you HAD to buy ice cream and Malteasers at the flicks?

You've evidently never had to sit through a film you didn't want to see for the sake of social conformity. I wish you joy of Transformers 3.

Technically, you don't 'need' PVA glue - there are other adhesives that can substitute.

Nope never had but given that it was Transformers 3 am assuming it wasn't a family outing. I was never forced by peer group pressure to do something I was uncomfortable with. If they are your mates they should be understanding about you not wanting to sit through it.

hth

Technically I do need pva glue, for certain functions it performs how I need it to. Prittstiks tend not to cut the mustard.

The analogy is not very successful as the ice cream is being consumed on the cinema premises. Unless you only base your models at the GW store it does not apply.
I am at liberty to walk out of the store across the shopping precinct and into Works to buy PVA should I so wish.

Don't like the price, don't buy the product.

And yep, I think that's it pretty much covered.

I walk 15 more meters past the GW, go to the sewing store and buy 1 liter of PVA for less than the cost of GW glue.

Same place does Superglue and plastic cement for roughly the same cost.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:The analogy is not very successful as the ice cream is being consumed on the cinema premises. Unless you only base your models at the GW store it does not apply.
I am at liberty to walk out of the store across the shopping precinct and into Works to buy PVA should I so wish.

You've made my point, while it seems missing it entirely. You don't have to use GW's glue, hence running to Dakka complaining to the world about it being overpriced is akin to a housewife running to The Internet to complain that the packs of chicken breasts cost more at Sainsbury's than they do at Tesco's, despite coming from the same free range farm.

Will try and remember next time not to pay silly money for something I don't want.

You are wasted here, you should be financial advisor for The Times

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Will try and remember next time not to pay silly money for something I don't want.

Which pretty much sums up my view on the thread.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You are wasted here, you should be financial advisor for The Times

See, that? Right there? That was uncalled-for and caustic. Largely, it seemed, we were in agreement - but you feel the need to be mean-spirited and impolite.

/sigh

If someone makes the assumption that I am too stupid not to buy something I don't want and feels the need to make the point explicit, that is in itself very impolite.

I can assure you that if I wished to be mean-spirited and impolite young Mythal, my comment would have been a lot more barbed and vitriolic than some mild sarcasm that Mr Mystery is more than capable of shrugging off.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:If someone makes the assumption that I am too stupid not to buy something I don't want and feels the need to make the point explicit, that is in itself very impolite.

Were you the OP?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I can assure you that if I wished to be mean-spirited and impolite young Mythal, my comment would have been a lot more barbed and vitriolic than some mild sarcasm that Mr Mystery is more than capable of shrugging off.

But you're being mean-spirited and impolite right now. And you've added condescending to the list. You're in blatant violation of Rule 1, and I fail to see why you're being so belligerent on a topic we seem to be very much in agreement on - which is, if the glue is overpriced there, buy it elsewhere.

Dude, you're complaining about the price of something you have no intention of purchasing. Is that not just a complete waste of time?

This is why I get frustrated with Dakka. The second someone shows a glimmer of actually enjoying their hobby, they get pounced on, and labelled. Meanwhile others will tour any and all threads, claiming to have quite, and moaning on and on about something that, you know, having allegedly quit, doesn't affect them in the slightest. I've been over on Warseer recently, and whilst hardly whinge free, it's a far better place for a general chinwag, as there is a lot less ego driven whinging.

Seriously, as I sit here in my flat, literally surrounded by thousands of pounds worth of models, I do have to wonder, why can't some just enjoy their hobby? I get that some people feel priced out, or are literally priced out. But the vitriol and bile aimed at a company doing nothing any company doesn't do utterly, utterly baffles me.

Dude you are in a thread discussing the mark up on hobby accessories.
Do you think everyone is a sucker because of the GW label? Do you think everyone on this thread is going to say they will gladly pay way over the odds for a product because it is GW

Didn't realise that only members of the GW Sychophant Society were allowed to post on Dakka!

I didn't know wood glue was the same thing, now I do, cheers for telling me, btw, no one at GW told me they were different, I made that assumption based on the fact it was called wood glue.

Should we have kept him in the dark paying more than he needs because you and your buddies in the stores aren't going to inform him?
This is not about ego, it is about free discussion.

Your last comment is your opinion. Not all of us of the same mind and we have a right to tell people that there are other ways of running a business so they are not kept in the dark about products. No one is saying you are not allowed to enjoy your extensive collection. Good luck to you with it.

Hence my post above, don't like the price, don't buy the product.

There are cheaper ways to buy it, so why complain about the higher price? This really is an utterly pointless thread!

No it isn't pointless for the reason I stated above. Good grief man it is your platitudes that are pointless.

If it is platitudes you wish trade in then how about not reading pointless threads? Then you don't get to see all the naughty things people say and get baffled. Let's see if I can do this correctly, here goes...

If you don't like the discussion don't join in the thread.
How did I do?

Better.

So what exactly is your point? GW glue is expensive compared to other sources, so you buy from other sources. Well done, have a biscuit, cup of tea and a bit sit down. But why a thread about it?

I didn't know wood glue was the same thing, now I do, cheers for telling me, btw, no one at GW told me they were different,

This

Mr Mystery, your loyalty to GW is commendable. But plucking out your left eye so you cannot see their faults, and plucking out your right so you cannot see the virtue in others seems like nothing but the deepest folly.

Just a note, Wood Glue is not exactly the same as PVA, they are similar, but Wood Glue can be toxic depending on brand, not that I suspect any folks are drinking the stuff down.

They also grip slightly differently when applied, and wood glue makes a waterproof bond, is usually regarded as stronger bond as well but takes longer to set.

Hence why I use a PVA/Wood Glue mix, a slightly stronger bond, and sets relativiely quicker.

What is sad is that we have spent 5 pages and time talking about simple glue. Sigh!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

I didn't know wood glue was the same thing, now I do, cheers for telling me, btw, no one at GW told me they were different,

This

Mr Mystery, your loyalty to GW is commendable. But plucking out your left eye so you cannot see their faults, and plucking out your right so you cannot see the virtue in others seems like nothing but the deepest folly.

Huh? No, seriously...huh? I see the faults, I just don't give a monkeys. I play the games as a Hobby. The various decisions made by said company don't really affect me. I play GW games because I'm guaranteed opponents. Others, not so much, and as I'm sure you're aware it can be difficult to get others to kick off a new system. Guys up the local club are getting into Malifaux, and I am intrigued. But hobbywise, I have more than enough to be getting on with for the time being, so not looking to kick off a new system. PP games and the styling aren't my bag. I get that many enjoy the more skirmishy level things, but as said, it's not my bag. So how does this become folly?

"I don't see my folly." quoth the blind fool.

So, it's folly because I don't agree with you?

Right. That makes sense....

You know what, you have derailed the thread long enough.

You could if you were so inclined find any number of my posts where I have categorically stated that I have nothing to say against other people enjoying Warhammer.
I have nothing against you doing so either.
But you constantly turn a blind eye to GW's poor management and harange those who speak against it.
You accuse others of whinging whilst whinging yourself.
You accuse others of doing something pointless whilst pointlessly winding up people on this thread.
You fail to see your hypocrisy.
- Edited by insaniak. You can make your point without resorting to name-calling. -

To be fair he sounds like the other GW apologists... where is eldargirl these days?

I think we're done here.